Fei Fong Wong Respect Thread

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AVATAR OF THE WAVE EXISTENCEWHO IS FEI FONG WONG?

The main protagonist of Xenogears. The final reincarnation of Abel, who was the first "Contact" of the Zohar 10,000 years ago, prior to the beginning of Xenogears main story period. From abel all the way to Fei he has reincarnated himself over that period of time. Through Fei's adventure and "awakening" he games all the memories of his past self to the beginning, that beginning being abel. Being the Avatar of the wave existence grants him METAVERSAL POWER! one droplet of the wave existence created the universe that exist. And the Wave Existence did this inadvertently. Also that power is INFINITE!

Due to experiments done on fei as a child by Mei, he developed multiple split personalities. 2 personalities to be exact, but the "Coward" personality will not be mentioned here to save space. In this section we will cover Id and another of Fei incarnations, The Seeker of power Grahf.

The First personality

Id (The Demon of Elru)

Capable of Destroying countries and armies, and gears with his bare hands, single handily

Id Weltall Gear

GRAHF (past reincarnation of Fei who is 400 years old)

Capable of destroying countries, armies, and gears with his bare hands. Also can transmigrating his soul and body leap into others. This is how he has lived for 400+ years.

BRIEFING ON XENOGEAR

Xenogear is fei final gear in which he empowers, like himself, with all the power of the wave existence which is INFINITE.

Stats: All Immeasurable (stated by Xenogears Perfect Works)

Powers and abilities

You thought you knew Hax? lol.....well.....

Phenomenon Alteration: Supplying the power.

The Phenomenon Alteration System, or PAS for short, is a system used by Zohar/WE to supply the world of Xenogears with energy. This is what was stated in Perfect Works (PE for short; refers to Xenogears source book)

PAS borrows heavily from Many Worlds Interpretation, or MWI. MWI's main conclusion is that the universe (or multiverse in this context) is composed of a quantum superposition of very many, possibly infinitely many, increasingly divergent, non-communicating parallel universes or quantum worlds.

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This refers to the change of a phenomenon. Phenomenon is something that keeps changing on a continuous basis with the axis of time (phenomenon changes with time, and time is created by the changes). However, in the case of Zohar, phenomena can be changed instantaneously. Okay, but how does this system work?

I'd best let PW explain this to you.

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Consider probable future events as present "phenomena" (potential phenomena) waiting to occur. The most "convenient" potential phenomenon is chosen and converted into the 'Active Subject' (in this case, the person operating the Zohar, mono) as a real event, leaving a trail of displaced potential energy after the process of Phenomon Alteration. If you consider an event to be a two-dimensional phenomenon, then the event in question is the solution to the "Material = Energy Shift Level" and "Energy Phase Distribution" equations. When the area of the sum of these two equations equals one, the immediate mathematical solution area becomes a grid for all potentially real events. This grid or area plane is accompanied by a 'temporal' (it would not have such an axis if the sum of the probabilities did not equal one). And, if you think of this plane as a curved graph, all horizontal points on this plane are indicative of 'time spans' that follow and conform to the corresponding vertical phenomena or event axis. In other words, the distance between each "future" coordinate and each "present" coordinate is equal. Zohar continues to select from among many different phenomena and how is this applied to the time axis? that time, contains both the beginning and the end of time simultaneously, the ratio 0 of the possible phenomena is not separate from this universe, but a separate universe is created.the beginning of that universe starts with the Big Bang and the rest is largely a mystery.And this is how Phenomenon Alteration function. It's also good to note that a phenomenon of probability 0 (ultimately not possible) can be made the most probable future phenomenon.

Direct from the game

"The 'ELDRIDGE' was equipped with history's first ever inexhaustible pseudo-perpetual engine. This was not just a highly efficient generator, but it also made possible the production of defense fields from it's unique 'A.O. (Absolute Object) space' and the actuation of hyper-light-speed 'S.V. (Subject Variable) navigation' etc...

With a design based on the Heisenberg proposition's S Matrix, which is the solution to the Uncertainty Principle's reciprocal relationship of particles (or Cosmic Wave), it was thus also known as the 'S Matrix Engine' or 'Heisenberg Engine'.

In principle, assuming all phenomena of the immediate future, including the present, are potential phenomena, it actualizes the most convenient phenomenon amongst these active subjects as the actual phenomenon and accordingly takes advantage of the resulting energy potential displacements."

CONTINUED.........

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KRELIAN
"Before the beginning of the universe, in the undulating waves of the higher dimension, all things were one.
It was the waves spilling out from there that created this four-dimensional universe of ours.
'Humankind' and the 'Souls of Humankind' that were born from there, are merely leftovers of those spilled waves

Now with this let's explain what it means Xenogears enduring the destruction of a dimension filled with wave energy:

If one drop can created a 4D universe, now a entire path filled with that energy exploding how much damage do you think that is?

The realm of possibilities: What could the -Contact- do?

Okay, since we understand that Zohar/WE supplies energy to the -Contact- through inclination of the temporal axis, what benefits would this bring to the -Contact-?

Well if you understand that the most improbable future event can be realized, even a probability of zero, this helps you understand the yield in output.

Example:

Say Fei was about to get hit with high yield explosives. Fei desires not to be harmed by such an assault. Zohar/WE receives this thought, and begins to work the temporal axis, tilting it to a probability where Fei doesn't get harmed. After the desired event is actualized, the inclination of the axis of probability is resetted. Energy is produced, possibly forming a barrier. Fei is protected from the explosion.

Things such as above is only a portion of what can be theorized as possible for a -Contact-. There's also output. Let's take actual game feats.

Id is seen destroying 40 ton mechanical giants with his bare hands. Now since Id is essentially a human being, this should be impossible. Not only should he NOT be able to survive the force of such impact, he shouldn't be able to cause remotely ANY damage whatsoever to it. Not even a dent.

Now this is where PAS comes into play. Through the explaination of Fei surviving high yield explosion, you can see how energy is received. This issue though, is you might think "How can a human withstand such high energy without dying" There are two probable answers to this.

One is that being the avatar, God protects him from such high yield energy. The second could be that it isn't necessarily him receiving the energy within his body, but more of it being forego to him in cases of need. One of my friends came up with a nice explaination of the latter.

Even though the second one is supported, the first one would seem more so true due to the fact that only a select few can accomplish this. And if the second was the case, anyone should, as everyone can be granted energy from Zohar/WE. But there's a counter-argument for this.

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The Wave Existence exists in multiple realities simultaneously... that is the definition of a higher dimensional entity... as Id's power is directly drawn from this source his attacks can be argued to exist in multiple dimensions.... from a physics standpoint this explains the high yield of his attacks as when they collide with lower dimensional matter they must discharge the higher dimensional mass in the only form that can exist in a lower dimensional plane.... raw energy

Access rights. The WE does not give energy that he knows the person couldn't handle. Even though human have no limit to how much energy they can request, as opposed to a gear and its slave generator (more on this later), there bodies will have a limit. Which makes my point of Id being protected by the high yield energy by the WE.

What protection does the -Contact- have besides physical?

How about time and reality manipulation? Transmutation?

Here's where it gets more difficult to explain. First, we must understand that the Wave Existence is essentially a universal God, which, as been explained already, can alter other worlds (Read: Universes) in order to get potential phenomenon to the desire of its avatar.

So what about this time manipulation?

Since we should have come to an understanding that the WE functions beyond time and space, and its control of it appears to be absolute, understanding the -Contact-'s ability to resist manipulation of it shouldn't be to hard to believe. Think of it like this. Someone prepares to stop time. Since it was proven that a -Contact- can retain their consciousness even when the mind should be shut off, resisting the time stop WHILE already in that state is possible. The WE receives the thought of his avatar wanting to resist this manipulation. The process begins and the energy is dispersed. With this, a buffer zone is created, so to say. Within this zone, the -Contact- is protected by the manipulation of time.

Or instead of a buffer zone, there could be a removal of said effect from this time stop if the ability came from someone of lesser power than the WE (or even if this power only functions within four dimensional space)

This could help push the idea across

What of reality manipulation?

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Higher dimensional matter/energy exists beyond the realm of influence of lower dimensional equivalents... in fact higher dimensional matter can only be expressed in lower dimensions as raw energy... hence my comment about a sort of buffer zone around Id... the higher dimensional matter from his link to the wave existence would bleed out as energy disrupting quantum and temporal affects in his general vicinity... from a dimensional mechanics standpoint anyway

You can also take a display that actually happened within the game that can support this. At the end of the game, Fei entered a temporal singularity. Afterward, he was outside of normal spacetime. He effectively maintained his existence.

Entering the temporal singularity.

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Retaining his existence and in this exact same scene he is able summon Xenogeras to fight Uroboros.

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Teleporting/Wisking away should prove impossible too. Depending on how you view teleportation, it should prove ineffective due to the WE control on spacetime. One source says that teleportation is a means of going from one place to another more or less instantaneously, without passing through the intervening space. This means that you're not passing through normal space, but beyond it. And as explained on both time and reality manipulation, a buffer zone, or removal of such affect can occur by the WE through the desire of the -Contact-. Also, any form of dimension dumping should also be ineffective. Otherwise, escaping from being dimension dumped shouldn't prove impossible, as Xenogears did it before.

the Slave generators:

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Each Gear comes whit a slave generator when the energy is going down it makes a request to the Zohar Modifier and then the Zohar gives him the energy note that each slave generator comes with a mark and that way the Zohar knows how much energy to supply so it would never supply more energy than the Gear can handle.

But when it comes to Omnigears they not only have Slave generators but Anima Relics:

Like you see power in Xenogears doesn't have nothing to do with having a strong body it has to do with mental power/fusion/Strong Will/gaining acces to the one thing that can make you powerful that being the Zohar Modifier and the WE.

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As one of the living elements of Kadomony which controls Zohar,a simplified focus for anima is the Anima Relic.Due to its fusion with those Animus (human beings) separated from kadomony's self resurrection program, it plays a vitl role in providing the core of Zohar's mobile terminals.
Those suitable human beings who can attain fusion, are of course able to gain acces rights to stronger power.And so, the capacity of the slave generator is enlarged, and the Gear's abilities expanded as a result.

Now let's go to the Ether part:

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Similar to the relationship between Zohar and the Slave generators, there are particular characters who have the ability to use Ether.it is different form the energy fed into the slave generators, those with Ether ability are in direct communication with Zohar, and even more refined requests are posible.A strickly kept secret, is that the energy emitted during phenomenon shift is the same as that of those with Ether ability that acces Zohar, use its phenomenon shift ability to draw out posibilities they choose. Also for those machines unable to exceed their potential, in the case of the Ether users, depending on the situation, they can have unlimited power.During the appearance of Id, Fei and Grahf as humans are able to topple Gears with their bare hands, and this is the source of that menancing power.

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Among those humans beings born frm Kodomony's protocol persona, (Animus) are those with the innate ability to use Ether.However in thruth those who can use that power are very few.

Krelian, and Uroboros are Multiversal being because they are Wave Entities. Wave entities are not confined by the 4th dimension. 4th Dimension being well our universe. They are entities of a higher dimensional plane. Similar to dc's 5D Imps.

Fie is a step up from them, because he not only gained the power of Har (WoE), but his -Contact- with the Zohar Modifier permits him to perform PAS. PAS Shuffles through infinite realties, if not create said realities to meet the avatars desire. If desired reality can not be met by 4th dimension, it will energy shift to higher planes of reality to meet the -Contacts- desire.

And yes Har is a bonafied Multiversal. Mere spills of his matter gave birth to the Xenoverse. The make up of a the Xenoverse, are infinite number of realties, and higher dimensional planes.

Last Feats Continued.....

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Nice thread. This guy sounds overpowered. lol

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Scattered In-Game Feats

Before I start I'll give a list of some powers abilities of Fei that we'll see below

Element Manipulation

Fire,Water, Lightning, Earth, Light, Dark (Soul Destroying attack), Time/Space, Telekinesis

Take notice in the videos when they use certain techniques it appears that they haven't moved at all and there after images hit you. An unquantifiable speed feats, but we can agree its very fast.

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Fei's Big Bang attack

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Easily tanks a 200,000+ Ton Warship being drop on him and Lifts it Up while laughing and throws it.

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Destroys the Floating Country of Solaris in seconds (notice that he moves so fast that the explosions seem to come from nothing)

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(3:20 Space/Time Vortex attack)

(6:37 Overpowers the mighty OR Weltall gear)

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Just by awakening, Id destroys Lahan Village and the surrounding mountains

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(0:24 Grahf is also capable of fighting Powerful gears like the main casts, let alone destroying weaker gears with his bare hands)

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To Give a Description on Deus, the final Boss. Even as an embryo he is capable of planet busting+. Once the heroes manage to destroy the Merkavah (his containment shell) It immediately begins terraforming the whole planet. Eventually Deus merges with the Zohar and becomes a universal being in its own right. Fei handily destroys Deus within a singularity.

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(1:46 Fei Defeats Deus powered by Zohar within that singularity)

(6:20 Fei survives the explosion of all the wave existence power inside path of sephirot)

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@juzacloud: I see the hard work put in here. Good job.

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Nice respect thread, that big bang attack reminds me all the crazy summons from FF series

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Great thread. I have never played a Xenogear game before but this makes me want to.

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Nice respect thread, that big bang attack reminds me all the crazy summons from FF series

Fun Fact: The xenogears development team were originally suppose to make final fantasy 7. But their concept was too dark and complicated. So they took this concept and created xenogears.

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Great thread. I have never played a Xenogear game before but this makes me want to.

The 1998 Xenogears game is the best one. You can purchase it on ps3 store for $10. A disc copy would run you about $80 lol. After xenogears, they created Xenosaga 1,2, and 3 for ps2. They were decent, but I never finished that series. The first one was REALLY boring and slow. I got about half way through the 2nd and stopped. I'm gonna finish them though. Heard the 3rd one is really good.

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#14  Edited By JuzaCloud
@deus said:

@juzacloud: Deus??!

I saw that your name was Deus, so I tagged you lol. I figured you would be interested in this thread since the final boss is named Deus lol. Were you a planet buster as an embryo by any chance?

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#15  Edited By Keikai

@juzacloud: I was indeed a planet buster as an embryo, a solar system buster as a toddler, a galaxy buster as a kid, a universe buster as a teenager and finally a multiverse buster as an adult.

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@juzacloud: I'm also assuming you know how to pronounce my name?

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@mudamudamuda said:

Great thread. I have never played a Xenogear game before but this makes me want to.

The 1998 Xenogears game is the best one. You can purchase it on ps3 store for $10. A disc copy would run you about $80 lol. After xenogears, they created Xenosaga 1,2, and 3 for ps2. They were decent, but I never finished that series. The first one was REALLY boring and slow. I got about half way through the 2nd and stopped. I'm gonna finish them though. Heard the 3rd one is really good.

Thanks, I'll give it a try when I get more free time.

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Who is that? Looks like a good game.

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@andr413: Xenogears one of the best RPGs in the world.

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@juzacloud: Thanks for sending me the link bro. Reading this takes me back. It's been forever since I've played Xenogears; it's one of my favorite RPGs. Good job on this thread.

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@juzacloud: looks interesting who says "I was indeed a planet buster as an embryo,a solar system buster as a toadler,a galaxy buster as a kid,a universe buster as a teenager and finnaly a multiverse buster as an adult"

am only asking because I saw someone saying this in this thread ,is there any character in the game that said that.that sounds like an interesting character

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@mrx1122 said:

@juzacloud: looks interesting who says "I was indeed a planet buster as an embryo,a solar system buster as a toadler,a galaxy buster as a kid,a universe buster as a teenager and finnaly a multiverse buster as an adult"

am only asking because I saw someone saying this in this thread ,is there any character in the game that said that.that sounds like an interesting character

I was joking with that poster since his name was the same as the final boss in the game....Deus. No one says that in the game, but Deus as an embryo was a planet buster. And as he evolved, he became much stronger.

I would wager that you would like Grahf (which is my profile pic) since he sort of talks in that manner.

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interesting