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#51  Edited By Billy Batson
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Count me in. 

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#52  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@Billy Batson: Thats great! What publisher would you like to represent? DC perhaps?
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#53  Edited By Billy Batson
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Sure, why not. Or Vertigo but that's already taken... 

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#54  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@Billy Batson: ok. got you down for DC.
 
can you think of any other publishers we could add to the list for other users to pick by?
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#55  Edited By Gambit1024

What about Darkhorse (I know nothing about the characters, but they're important, no?)

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@The Poet: Yea count me in to! I call dibs on Xmen...
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#57  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@Blue_Beetle_is_Blue: confirmed!
 
@Gambit1024: thanks! I'll add that the options
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#58  Edited By Billy Batson
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Top Cow? Disney? Or I could switch DC to Disney if others want DC too.

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#59  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@Billy Batson: alright added.
 
i'll let you know. Lets see how it goes. Thanks.
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#60  Edited By Gambit1024

Question: Are we doing just heroes or heroes, villains, and supporting characters ?

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#61  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@Gambit1024: lets say heroes. It maybe a little bit tough to do everyone's favorite character (plus if the riddler was #1 on the list...they might ask questions on how fair the list maker is...)
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#62  Edited By Gambit1024

I did my list of candidates. I can't wait to see what everyone's come up with. 

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#63  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@Gambit1024: yeah, should be interesting...
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#64  Edited By Jnr6Lil

Count me in but this list will be opiniionated @ The Poet 
 
Definitely not the point of my topic

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#65  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@Jnr6Lil: not sure what you mean by opinionated. everyone has their own oppinion. To be or not to be that is the question. I mean, what are lists (even by IGN), but an oppinion of the worth of one character over another. I can not think of any way one could create something without an oppinion. shakespeare must have liked love or wanted us to know about the tragedies of life; he shared with us the oppions of himself through his art. my profile picture shares my opinion that Riddler is the greatest villain ever, but not everyone thinks that and I'm fine with that. Not many people would recignise me without such a picture. Oppinions make us who we are. without oppinions, how would we decide which shirt we should wear? or to like comics?
 
Sorry, feel like argueing. I mean, how else would we create a list of characters? Please don't take this the wrong way. i really am curious what direction you were thinking of taking. I want to know how you would handle something like this...in your oppinion what is the point of the topic?
 
 
Side note: what character group would you like to have?
I'm sorry if this direction I have taken is seems opinionated. I really am. I am just trying to make a way we could do it which would not be complete chaos...
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#66  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@Billy Batson: billy, would it be alright if i move you to Disney? Got a request by PM by the Queen of the Vine (DH) to be second DC fan rep...
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#67  Edited By Billy Batson
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Do it.

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#68  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@Billy Batson: thanks for understanding (remember you don't have to nominate characters from Disney...you can nominate Verticgo, DC or whatever else you are interested in nominating)
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#69  Edited By Billy Batson
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Yes! But I'll nominate a few from Disney too.

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#70  Edited By The Poet  Moderator

Did I mention we have cookies?*

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#71  Edited By turoksonofstone
@The Poet:  
Dynamite? ....Valiant? Others?? 
Awesome Idea BTW.
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#72  Edited By The Poet  Moderator
@turoksonofstone: thanks (though I have to say most of the credit goes to Jnr6Lil for starting this and Aztek for his brilant ideas)
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#73  Edited By harleyquinn12

OOH OOH Can I help??? i could do Archie easily, but Image would work too.
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#74  Edited By The Poet  Moderator

@harleyquinn12: you sure can!

Either one would work fine! As you said Archie would be done easily...Shall we say Archie? (I'll put you down for that) Thanks so Much!

(might want to start thinking about what 8 characters you would like to nominate...)

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#75  Edited By Liberty

I want dynamite if I cannot get DC. Also I see marel is split X-Men, Avenges. Is there a split for DC?

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#76  Edited By Liberty

Also what if DC guys nominate the same person?

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#77  Edited By The Poet  Moderator

@Liberty: I'll probably ask the second nominater for an alternate nomination if we get duplicates.

I thought marvel needed a slip and could think of how to split it. As DC was a large company, i thought it should be the same, but really couldn't think of a way to slit it. I figure I'll let Dark Huntress and Primmaster have their own discression.

A good example of a nomination is Primemasters' (you don't have to send it till we have gathered all 20 of the partisipants, but):

  • Superman
  • Captain Marvel
  • Wonder Woman
  • Dick Grayson
  • Power Girl
  • Green Lantern(Kyle Rayner)
  • Superboy
  • Invincible(image)

as you can see, he used both DC and image. so you can do any way you feel led. I'm sort of letting you guys worrry...I mean think about nominations...

Please note (not for you, liberty): Do NOT give me any nominations until your name is on the table for a publisher.

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#78  Edited By Liberty

What is the criteria? Are we looking for the character who fits the Archtype of superhero or are we picking our favorites or something else?

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#79  Edited By Liberty

A critical flaw in list. We need to some how account for defunct publishers. Kind of a catch all of characters who might not get considered because they are not a current publisher. turoksonofstone would be perfect as he knows more about the public domain characters than anyone I know besides myself that is. =)

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#80  Edited By turoksonofstone
@Liberty:  
:)=
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#81  Edited By damswedon

I'd love to represent 2000 AD's myriad of characters, but we have a big problem in that Judge Dredd is a villain. When push comes to shove Dredd is the most popular and obviously the top character for the book/publisher.

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#82  Edited By Liberty

@aztek_the_lost said:

@The Poet: well again, I say go for it if you want, but the problem with just going off of the opinions of a lot of people versus a select group that represents a huge diversity is the large group is going to select a lot of the same, and it'll just be a list of the 100 most popular characters...if you incorporate users that represent specific areas of comics, like someone who likes the Golden Age, someone who likes 90's Image, someone who likes non-superhero stuff, someone who likes all the mainstream stuff, someone who likes licensed properties, etc. the list holds more weight, at least IMO

Again. Well said.

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#83  Edited By Silkcuts

@aztek_the_lost said:

I prefer lists of Top 100 Comic Book Characters, superheroes is too much of a niche if you're going to do 100 of them

Characters indeed!

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#84  Edited By Liberty

@The Poet said:

Wanted to annouce The Poet's plan is going to be set in motion. the following is my plan, which i need people for:

  • I need 20 different users. each will represent a their favorite publisher (like Aztek has agreed to represent Vertigo). Dc and Marvel (being major publishers) will each have 2 represeatives (ex: one for x-men and one for the avenger-type characters)
  • each of the 20 will nominate 8 different characters (preferably Heroes). It doesn't matter if the characters are of their favorite publisher or not
  • then, I will take those 160 nominations and the 20 will discuss which ones should be on the list and which should not be
  • Following that, the 20 will write reasons why they think their character should be on the list and I will post those on the comment section of the 100 list

Thats where the community comes in. I will post the list and users and look over it. Each user can request a character to be moved up or down on the list, depending on how they feel about a character. they can do this only once and such a move would only be up or down ONE position. If say you don't like Batman (is there any people like that?) and he's on the bottem of the list, you can't just request for him to be moved to the hundredth position. you can only move a chracter up or down one position.

After a week has passed, the blog where all requests are submitted will locked and the results (at least for this year) will be used to create a list.

Users who have volunteered to be part of the 20:

if you don't see a publisher you like (and you want to participate) please mention it and you can be part of the 20. Please keep in mind this will only have 20 users. I'm sorry if your favorite is taken, but please don't complain to me...

Publisher: User Rep
DC:The Dark Huntress
DC: Primmaster64
Marvel (x-men): Blue Beetle is Blue
Marvel (Avengers):Gambit1024
Image:
Vertigo:Aztek The Lost
Rebellion (Judge Dredd?)???:
Dark Horse:
Top Cow:
Disney: Billy Batson
IDW:
Viz:
Archie: harleyquinn12
Zenescope Entertainment?
Dynamite: Liberty
Valiant:
Red 5:?

You need to start a new blog with this as the main post. It is going to make things a lot easier.

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#85  Edited By turoksonofstone
@damswedon said:

I'd love to represent 2000 AD's myriad of characters, but we have a big problem in that Judge Dredd is a villain. When push comes to shove Dredd is the most popular and obviously the top character for the book/publisher.

A Villain?
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#89  Edited By Silkcuts

No Top Shelf?

How about ABC?

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#90  Edited By Silkcuts

@turoksonofstone said:

Bill Willingham 's Elementals is a forgotten classic..
Comico, First Comics? Gold Key? Indies and oldies..

Comico for sure should have love.

Where would the Grendels get love? and lets face it Hunter Rose would kick Bruce Wayne's @$$ one on one.

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@turoksonofstone said:

@Silkcuts:
Promethea, Tom Strong, Ultraverse?

I would love to represent ABC.

Promethea to Tom Strong, top 10 the LoEG, Tomorrow Stories and even Alan Moore himself.

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#94  Edited By Silkcuts

@turoksonofstone said:

@Silkcuts:
Pretty sure he did just that in Batman/Grendel

Glad I was not the only one to read that one. Matt Wagner is so underrated! His MX series should still be going!

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#95  Edited By turoksonofstone
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Perfect Fit sounds like.. 
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Grendel stomped him same as Deathstroke did.
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#96  Edited By Silkcuts

Wildstorm is now DCU?

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#97  Edited By turoksonofstone
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Wildstorm is now DCU?

Mainstream DCU.
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#98  Edited By Silkcuts

@turoksonofstone said:

@Silkcuts:
Perfect Fit sounds like..
@Silkcuts: Grendel stomped him same as Deathstroke did.

instead of an ABC list, may be an Alan Moore list so I can include V, the Watchmen crew, Mogo, Sodam Yat, Tao, Maxwell, Halo Jones and others her has created or made famous like Swamp Thing and Supreme.

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#99  Edited By Liberty

@The Poet:

Can we take off these four publishers for others? There are so many publishers that have thicker histories and characters. turoksonofstone, silkcuts and I mentioned a bunch above this post. They just seem bush league.

  1. Zenescope Entertainment - This company is not really a superhero company. Who would get put on the list? Alice? I cannot think of any characters from this company that should be on a top 100. Now I'm sure someone will challenge that but really? I mean really?
  2. Disney - What is being considered here? Aladdin, Nemo, Winnie the pooh, Lion King? Does anyone really believe these characters should be on a 100 list of superheroes?
  3. Red 5 - Red 5's longest lasting run is 8 issues. This won't be a top 8 list. It will be a list of all their characters. Would any really make a real top 100 list?
  4. Viz - Remember the premise. (Top 100 Comic Book Superheroes) Can anyone besides a BESM nut really take these characters? It would be like adding Danielle Steel Characters. It make no sense.
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#100  Edited By turoksonofstone
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Interesting Indeed, I could do Kirby just the Same..Maybe instead of companies choose by creator? Hmmm.