Batman and Robin or Fantastic 4: which one brings the bigger shame ?

Which one brings more shame to Marvel and / or DC:

Joel Schumaker's batman and Robin or the 2015 remake of the Fantastic four ?

F4. After Batman Forever, there was no hype for Batman and Robin, everybody knew that it would be garbage, differently from Fantastic Four, which had a big hype, because people believed that it would be the redemption of the F4 in the cinemas.

I found B&R to be fun.

Batman and Robin was horrible, but watching it now its so bad that it reaches that point where it starts being funny ironically.

F4 was just so average that it was painfully boring.

Batman had a credit card.

Never seen fantastic four, it look like crap, so I decide not to watch it.

Batman and Robin was never meant to be a serious batman film (Nipples....Bat Credit Card, its obvious, is it not?)

Its was a "Tongue in Cheek" have a laugh kinda film, with heart warming and actually well acted parts (Bruce and Alfred)

I think its a fun film

F4....

B&R was at least funny how bad it was. F4 was a third missed chance to make a cool F4 movie. That's more shameful imo, eapecially since F4 will not be rebooted or have the chance of having a good film for decades.

Batman and Robin isn't anything more than an unfortunate footnote after the Nolan trilogy. For some reason, WB just wanted a fun, two-hour toy commercial which is essentially what it was. I maintain that any scene with Alfred, or where Clooney wasn't wearing a Batsuit was passable.

Fantastic Four, on the other hand, was bland, continued a trend of bad FF properties from Fox, and was actually worse than the previous two films. Might be another decade before we see the FF back in a film now.

Batman and Robin for sure, the puns, the product placement, and the bat nipple.

At least the fight scene in the last few minutes of FAN4STIC was ok

I've never seen Batman and Robin but I did see Shitastic 4 on Redbox. Dear god was it bad

Fantastic four. Batman and Robin was no prize either, but at least they acknowledged their own campiness and didn't take themselves too seriously, so watching the characters ham it up and chew the scenery is a guilty pleasure of mine. F4 2015 on the other hand has no redeeming qualities and just comes of looking like that annoying emo 13 year old who thinks he has the world figured out by being totally 'dark and hardcore'.

Seriously the only likable character in the movie was Franklin Storm aka Sue's and Johnny's dad.

Fantastic Four.

Batman has already been redeemed in cinema. The F4 still have yet to get a good film. Poor dudes (and dudette).

F4. At least I can laugh at how bad Batman and Robin is.

F4

F4, easily the biggest piece of crap film from Fox.

@nerevarine_11: Do yourself a favor and check it out. It's hilarious.

Fantastic Four. Batman and Robin was well aware of the fact that it was just made to sell some more toys, but F4 was all dark and gloomy and took itself way too seriously.