Akira Toriyama vs Stan Lee

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Which one is the better writer and which one had more influence on their respective mediums?

Am I fool for asking this question on a predominantly american comic book website?

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Akira because he made a series where people can power up just by squatting and yelling

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While DBZ had a huge impact on the world, it's time has passed and they are currently trying to resuscitate a dead horse. While I hate to Admit, with Marvel movies being as big as the are now, their time in the sun is eclipsing the sun at the moment.

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Toriyama at least wrote his own stuff but Stan Lee is probably more influential. And it's the same medium.

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Toriyama at least wrote his own stuff but Stan Lee is probably more influential. And it's the same medium.

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Stan Lee; AT influence seems mostly contained to Asia whereas the characters that Stan Lee created influence creativity around the world.

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Stan Lee stomps----but neither are good writers, to be honest.

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Stan Lee stomps----but neither are good writers, to be honest.

Better than anything DC writers put out at least!

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Stan Lee stomps.

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I prefer Akira Toriyama.

Also, why is it that Toriyama is beating a dead horse when its not dead? People clearly want more Dragon Ball. Its funny that some of these western companies can release movies, comics, video games, toys, pajamas, blankets, posters etc. for a handful of the same characters for years but they aren't ever labeled as beating a dead horse lol

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@blade_r said:

I prefer Akira Toriyama.

Also, why is it that Toriyama is beating a dead horse when its not dead? People clearly want more Dragon Ball. Its funny that some of these western companies can release movies, comics, video games, toys, pajamas, blankets, posters etc. for a handful of the same characters for years but they aren't ever labeled as beating a dead horse lol

Most want it out of nostalgia or because they're that much into DBZ. Battle of the gods wasn't anything impressive and it made me question DBZ's quality. Beerus wanting to destroy the Earth because he didn't get any pudding was quite possibly the stupidest reason a fight started in all of DBZ, which they even made fun of in Xenoverse where Trunks says "this fight started for the stupidest reason"

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Are we really discussing this?

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Stan Lee at least knew what a "plot" was

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Akira Toriyama is younger so he takes this...

O wait isnt about that.

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#19  Edited By deactivated-5c901e667a76c  Moderator

Stan Lee

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#20  Edited By Skit

Toriyama at least wrote his own stuff but Stan Lee is probably more influential. And it's the same medium.

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Lee, even though I really like DBZ.

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The Dragon Ball series was definitely an amazing series, but I got to give it up to Stan the man.

Stan Lee at least knew what a "plot" was

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Just incase you guys didn't know toriyama has written other things besides Dragon ball.

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@gambit474: considering you have a villain who was willing to sacrifice his entire army just so he could get stronger, I'm not surprised about beerus wanting to destroy the planet over something that childish (considering being childish is his defining trait)

To answer the question, Stan the man. But I do love toriyama's other works. (Jaco, Dr. Slump, etc)

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Stan Lee at least knew what a "plot" was

You mean a rough draft of it and then let the artists do the rest?
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Stan the Man.

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Stan but both were and are still great influences.

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Stan Lee; AT influence seems mostly contained to Asia whereas the characters that Stan Lee created influence creativity around the world.

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Stan lee.

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#30  Edited By TOATOAA

stan lee wrote more legendary characters

stan lee ftw

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This is a question? Stan in a godstomp.

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I love DBZ, is my favorite show, but Marvel influence is still strong, so Stan Lee stomp.

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@toatoaa said:

stan lee wrote more legendary characters

stan lee ftw

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This is a question? Stan in a godstomp.

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Stan Lee.

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Stan Lee anyday. I like DB Manga and Anime for what it is however.

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DBZ is my favourite show but Stan the Man just murders it.

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Akira forgets he is fighting at mid battle. Stan wins by default

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Stan Lee stomps. AT is terrible now. Stan has been a force to be reckoned with for decades.

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Stan Lee is a known liar . All of his words are truly bs and misleading

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lol

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Stan lee

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Wow, Stan Lee in a rout. How do you Define influential? There are people who have never see DBZ that have absolutely no idea who Goku is, but even my mother knows what happens when you make Bruce Banner angry. THAT'S impact. You can say that's because I'm American, but I've got news for you: there are a heck of a lot more people in America than there are in Japan.

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Toriyama because battle shonen manga are much more popular in countries not in America. It's cheaper to buy and Japanese anime onto international TV channels work better. Even my parents remember japanese shows on their TV set when they were kids, as an example.

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Isnt Stan Lee a talentless hack who like to take credit for other people's work?

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Stan Lee.

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@havenless: uh, the question is asking about influence, that doesn't have anything to do with whether or not someone recognises the character, it has to do with how they influenced their medium after they released their books (stan lee with comics, toriyama with manga)

Just wanted to clear that part up for you

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Toriyama's a better writer. Stan Lee is more influencial. Tbh, Toriyama is too formulaic for my personal tastes, but for a lot of Gold and Silver Age books, pretty much everyone besides the protagonists were complete idiots. Lee was very creative, but a lot of his issues ended way too conviently in the heroes favor.