DC's Greek Gods...

A year or so ago, each of the Greek Gods who had appeared in a comic book (mainly Wonder Woman) had their own pages. It seems they've been deleted and/or merged with the In Public Domain characters? I'm not sure why this is, as Marvel still has their pages for Hercules, Ares, Zeus, etc. The Greek Gods are a pivotal group of characters in Wonder Woman's series, as well as others... they should have their own pages if the Marvel versions do.

Can anyone fill me in on why they don't have pages?

In general alternate versions of a character only gets their own page if they have a substantial amount of appearances as Marvels Hercules and Ares do. The Zeus page should probably be merged with the public domain one.

Ares is one of Wonder Woman's main villains, and has made more appearances than Marvel's Ares, though. It's odd to me that he gets a page and not DC's Ares.

I think you're wrong there, DC Ares has around 100, Marvels Ares has 660

and it's not just about appearances, there has to be significant differences to warrant it as well.

someone brings this up at least once a year though with the same result, DC pantheons are too traditional and don't have enough significant differences.

I'm seeing that there are 3 different Morgan le Fay characters and now someone when around switching all the public domain Morgan le Fays I had for Fables and switched it with the DC version. Shouldn't Morgan le Fay just have one page...as with Merlin and anyone else from Camelot? I'm not sure about Marvels version, but DC is pretty much the same thing as the traditional.

@fables87: pretty sure there should only be two, the original and Marvel.

@pikahyper: some one should fix it. they messed up all my edits with the public domain one for fables and switched it on me to DC.

@fables87: if anyone is going to fix it it will probably have to be you, I don't see anyone volunteering and I just got home from an all you can eat breakfast buffet so I'm in no condition, I'll be in a food comma shortly.

@pikahyper: lol

@fables87: it was a pleasant food coma with some much needed sleep :)

The fastest would be to move over everything from the PD one to DC's then change that one. Also i see that there's a DC Merlin that probably also should be merged.

DC's Poseidon is a giant frogfish, I don't think I would call that traditional.

@fesak: Could you do that for me?

Actually the god's were know to shape shift into several forms.

No idea myself same is for angels like gabriel from vertigo

@fables87 :

Done, is the DC version of Merlin different enough or should he be merged too?

Which is an odd way of making distinctions when Marvel's are holesale copy/pasted from myths and into their books with the barest minimum of changes.

An example: Athena (who hasn't gotten a seperate page)

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1, 3 and 5 is how DC's Athena has appeared over the last 15 years or so. Number 4 is how Marvel's tend to look and 2 is an old sculpture of Athena... which one of the drawings resemble the statue the most?

@outside_85: not every version of the Marvel pantheon diverge.

@fesak: The Merlin DC is pretty much the same thing. Most of Camelot stuff from DC follows Malory tradition. So I see no reason for all these Lancelots and Merlins and Lady if the Lakes floating around on here.

I would say they rarely do. Thor is perhaps the best example, he talks like a shakesperian character, he's blond and clean-shaven, and that's about it.

@outside_85: If you are only talking about visually the same sure but we aren't, using your example Marvel's Thor has done many many things that no other version of Thor has done, that makes him unique enough to have his own page, same goes for any other god that has that many unique adventures compared to the public domain or historical versions, that's why the general criteria states that a character must have significant differences to be added and that encompasses all aspects of a character.

@pikahyper: By that admission you should have no trouble with the DC versions having their own pages since they've generally been around far longer than Marvel's versions and are quite removed from their mythological sources.

@outside_85: not removed enough, the majority of DC's pantheon are still separate from the rest of DC's Earth, they distance themselves and stick to their mythological "posts" and are rarely updated or modernized, Marvel's pantheon most of the time lives on Earth and interacts, that is a large difference and again it isn't about one aspect of a character which you keep latching on to. Even if you somehow convince me otherwise its still not going to change anything since this is a rule started by the staff and enforced by all the mods.

@pikahyper: what a load of garbage

@outside_85: why even start this when you don't edit those pages?

@pikahyper: Which pages?

@outside_85: any god pages.

@pikahyper: When the mood strike me, I have. Ares, Hera, Hades, Strife are some I've contributed to

Last time I seen DC Apollo he was a black guy having a pool party on earth. All of DC's New 52 gods are very different from myth to the point if you just looked at them you wouldn't even know.

@jonny_anonymous: that still doesn't meet the criteria, new 52 hasn't been around long enough for these versions to have enough appearances to warrant splitting.

But they have been making regular appearances in Wonder Woman and Aquaman.

However there is already a DC Artemis who has no relation to the god other then the fact she is named after her, so if we had it would be very confusing for the editors. A lot of the Amazon characters are named after Greek gods.

That's hardly confusing. There is tons of characters with the same name.

@jonny_anonymous: yes, but it is when there are two dc versions. there was already had an issue were someone added the dc morgan le fay as the fables one (when fables isn't even part of dc comic community), thus they had to make morgan le fay just public and marvel. I see a lot of people just add a character based on the company rather then actually looking on the page.

@fables87: That's still no reason. All the Eternals are named after gods at Marvel.

Well, that example is down to the OP not adding the Fables' Morgan to the Vertigo publisher where she belonged.

But it seems it's not just DC's gods thats getting lost under the PD banner even though they have very little in common. While I am not an expert in Arthurian lore, I don't think Morgan was ever described as a centuries old vitality sucking witch that dressed in full-encompassing gold armor.