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#101  Edited By Mr. Wilson

I liked Cage as a leader but I think I'm going to prefer the new line-up.  I am glad Wolvie and Spidey stayed on.

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#102  Edited By gmanfromheck

Cage may still be leading...another team.

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#103  Edited By Slinger
G-Man said:
"Cage may still be leading...another team."
Yeah, I didn't like seeing that.
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#104  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Mr. Wilson said:
"I liked Cage as a leader but I think I'm going to prefer the new line-up.  I am glad Wolvie and Spidey stayed on."
He didn't even lead....He had the title of leader but all he did was say AVENGERS ASSEMBLE.
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#105  Edited By Slinger
Vance Astro said:
"Mr. Wilson said:
"I liked Cage as a leader but I think I'm going to prefer the new line-up.  I am glad Wolvie and Spidey stayed on."
He didn't even lead....He had the title of leader but all he did was say AVENGERS ASSEMBLE."
Psh. That's the whole job anyway.

Wolverine was the real tactical brains of the operation.
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#106  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Slinger said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Mr. Wilson said:
"I liked Cage as a leader but I think I'm going to prefer the new line-up.  I am glad Wolvie and Spidey stayed on."
He didn't even lead....He had the title of leader but all he did was say AVENGERS ASSEMBLE."
Psh. That's the whole job anyway.

Wolverine was the real tactical brains of the operation."
No..if you read Avengers when Cap was leader..the words Avengers Assemble was followed by tactics and planning not kicking and punching sh#t.
When Wolverine is the most tactical person you have..something is wrong.
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#107  Edited By Slinger
Vance Astro said:
"When Wolverine is the most tactical person you have..something is wrong."
Wolverine is a brilliant strategist, he just tends to lose it some times...

Anyway, I still liked Cage as a leader type. I think his personality is too big to follow Bucky, and Bucky too much of a loner to be an Avenger, regardless of how good or bad either are at the job. Even in issues covering Bucky's past life as an Invader have him off doing his own thing half the time.
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#108  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Slinger said:
"Vance Astro said:
"When Wolverine is the most tactical person you have..something is wrong."
Wolverine is a brilliant strategist, he just tends to lose it some times...

Anyway, I still liked Cage as a leader type. I think his personality is too big to follow Bucky, and Bucky too much of a loner to be an Avenger, regardless of how good or bad either are at the job. Even in issues covering Bucky's past life as an Invader have him off doing his own thing half the time."
Wolverine isn't a brilliant strategist.No doubt he's good but he's nowhere near Cap in that department.
Anyway,..Cage is a horrible leader and has been even when he was the leader of Heroes for Hire.Misty Knight is so much better as the current leader.Bucky is a natural leader..not really a loner he just seems that way because of his Winter Soldier persona.Bucky has been on teams since he was a teen...he showed leadership qualities and intellect in battle even then.The only reason Bucky did his own thing during the time he was an Invader is because that was his job..he was the sneak around guy...the spy.Kind of hard to slit someone's throat when they see you coming.
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#109  Edited By gmanfromheck

Cap also wasn't always the leader of the Avengers.  Wasp was for a while (for some reason).  As was Captain Marvel (PHOTON) while Cap was there.  Or at least back then they called them 'chairmen.'

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#110  Edited By Slinger

Meh, I'll have to wait to read it before I am convinced that Cap is a good addition to the team. Although I do think that it may be time for Luke to part ways.

I still think that Wolverine is a brilliant strategist. Though I never claimed he was anywhere near Steve Rodgers, I think he is about on par with Bucky.

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#111  Edited By DEADPOOL
pixelized said:
"Mockingbird excites me a little"
Me too, but different reasons... or the same reasons?
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#112  Edited By Mr. Wilson

@ Vance

The point is he kept the Avengers together after the war.  

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#113  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Mr. Wilson said:
"@ Vance

The point is he kept the Avengers together after the war.  "
No he didn't.They would have been there whether he was leader or not.They stayed for Cap's sake..not for Cage.
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#114  Edited By pixelized
DEADPOOL said:
"pixelized said:
"Mockingbird excites me a little"
Me too, but different reasons... or the same reasons?"
different more than likely. Though after reading Dark Reign: New Nation, i don't like her as much.

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#115  Edited By Mr. Wilson
Vance Astro said:
"Mr. Wilson said:
"@ Vance

The point is he kept the Avengers together after the war.  "
No he didn't.They would have been there whether he was leader or not.They stayed for Cap's sake..not for Cage."

And he had the stones to be the LEADER.  I said I liked Cage as leader, doesn't mean he was a good one.  I liked how he had to fill in some big shoes.