Posted by No_Name_ (16193 posts) - - Show Bio

For some of us, this is one of the moments we have been anxiously anticipating. Readers first saw the very beginnings of what might be a truly epic battle in NIGHTWING #13, and in the next issue of NIGHTWING we will finally see Dick Grayson face off in a fight against Lady Shiva. This might actually be a pretty important battle for Nightwing, since, these two characters have known one another since they were both very young (at least according to New 52 cannon). Maybe DC knows how much I like Lady Shiva, or perhaps this is a simple coincidence, but the publisher has given Comic Vine an exclusive look at NIGHTWING #14 written by Tom DeFalco due in stores on November 21st. Base don the four pages provided, what do you think of this fight? Is this a book you are looking forward to reading?


The epic martial arts throwdown of the year: Nightwing vs. Lady Shiva! Nightwing may be outmatched this time, but he’s not going down without a fight! This issue leads directly into the “DEATH OF THE FAMILY’ event!

Written by:Tom DeFalco

Art by:Andres Guinaldo and Mark Irwin

Cover by:Eddy Barrows and Eber Ferreira

Page Count: 32

U.S. Price: 2.99

On Sale Date: Nov 21 2012

== TEASER ==
#1 Posted by CircularLogic (320 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is Tom DeFalco writing instead of Higgins? He's a terrible writer.

#2 Posted by Zeeguy91 (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

@CircularLogic: Higgins is taking some time off to work on his "Death of the Family" tie-ins

#3 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (44583 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't know DeFalco was taking over from Higgins

#4 Posted by Fhiz (743 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: he's not.

#5 Posted by kennybaese (1241 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: He's only filling in for two issues so Higgins would have time to work on the DotF tie in issues.

I gotta say, Shiva's character design was always kind of boring, but this costume looks a little goofy. There are elements of it that I like, but the hair with the blades is a bit much.

#6 Posted by geoff2005 (213 posts) - - Show Bio

for some reason nightwing looks a little like he's asian in these previews

#7 Posted by DDangelico (234 posts) - - Show Bio

Boy--that art is less than stellar. Dick looks like he's 16 and the Penguin's nose looks even stranger than usual.

#8 Posted by HexThis (1133 posts) - - Show Bio

What is he doing out in daylight? This was an issue I had with the recent Huntress series, she was out during the day far too often. I don't think it works for certain heroes.

#9 Posted by Gotham's Dark Knight (28 posts) - - Show Bio

Not loving the art. Dick is looking like he's 15.

#10 Posted by KZR (504 posts) - - Show Bio

I am unimpressed. The art is meh.

#11 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (12345 posts) - - Show Bio

I really enjoyed this book when it first started, but i lost total interest in this book.

#12 Posted by Cavemold (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

Fill in issues circular logic

#13 Posted by Spideycap (328 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing is my favorite DC character, so yes I am very excited for this issue. Honestly though I am really looking even farther forward to the Joker tie-in. Really loving the new 52 take on Dick and cant really get enough.

#14 Posted by arnoldoaad (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

The art is really bad here

the Shiva design is just so ugly

#15 Posted by drreneninja (91 posts) - - Show Bio

@MadeinBangladesh: I couldn't have said it better myself. This series was good, but it fell off the rails after the Night of Owls. Something I don't mind skipping every month.

#16 Posted by ME24601 (130 posts) - - Show Bio

It's interesting to see someone in the Bat Family out in the day time in Gotham City...

#17 Posted by SmashBrawler (6032 posts) - - Show Bio

DeFalco writing this issue explains the horribly placed Nightwing logo in Dick's speech balloon. Hate that sh!t.

#18 Posted by MizariSeth (34 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't picking this, I wait until the next month number -.-

#19 Posted by namtabmi (102 posts) - - Show Bio

loving the cover

#20 Posted by carnivalofsins00 (1224 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks for the preview guys, really. Now I know not to pick up this issue.

#21 Posted by Miss_Garrick (1761 posts) - - Show Bio

I still prefer blue for the Nightwing look.

#22 Posted by cameron83 (8200 posts) - - Show Bio

WOW...I actually like shiva's look...

I don't think goofy makes sense when people go out at night dressed as a humanoid bat...Or when a soldier wears bright colors,etc

#23 Posted by cameron83 (8200 posts) - - Show Bio


just my opinion

#24 Posted by TheCowman (461 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, Cassandra Cain already took her out twice.

And yeah, I agree Shiva's outfit looks kinda silly. But then, part of the New 52 seems to be bad outfits. Just look at what they did to poor Harley.

#25 Posted by Mbecks14 (2114 posts) - - Show Bio

Love the cover but Shiva's design is...ridiculous

#26 Posted by FoxxFireArt (3637 posts) - - Show Bio

Is that suppose to be Lady Shiva's hair with the blades on it? That's sort of a silly design choice. What if you were to fall down or get knocked into a wall? You could inadvertently stab yourself. Having a weapon on your body that you can't control is reckless. Hardly something a world class assassin would do.

Her design should be something closer to the Elite Guard of Talia in ARKHAM CITY.

#27 Posted by The Stegman (33888 posts) - - Show Bio

Shiva kinda looks like a female Shredder here.

#28 Posted by tomtomiii (26 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to admit I like the Nightwing Blue outfit better. But then I'm not sure I'm sold on New 52 Nightwing. I do get the book each month, but more because I'm hopeful this Dick Grayson will grow on me. I can buy pre-Flashpoint Nightwing going toe-to-toe with Lady Shiva, but new 52 Dick would have his but handed to him. Unless she is a pushover too.

I'll get this issue too, because Dick Grayson has ALWAYS been a favorite character of mine. New Teen Titans #1 was the first comic I remember buying from a shop, and taking care of. Dick Grayson was a great Robin and I loved the first Nightwing run (well most of it anyway). But the New 52 has gutted the character. The New Teen Titans never existed, Dicks relationship with Babs minimized to virtually nothing, and his time as Robin Truncated to a faction (4 Robins in such a small window). The last being the most puzzling of course. I mean apparently he is still a Millionaire (even though he much younger and has no job), Tight with Lucius Fox, and has he skills of the hero he was pre-Flashpoint (in a fraction of the time).

#29 Posted by (262 posts) - - Show Bio

@HexThis said:

What is he doing out in daylight? This was an issue I had with the recent Huntress series, she was out during the day far too often. I don't think it works for certain heroes.

If I knew that the Joker and Shiva were both after me, I wouldn't wanna be running around Gotham at night either. Which reminds me. I'm calling it now: They fight, Nightwing wins only to get taken out by Joker or Batgirl.

#30 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82986 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems like this story is taking forever to develop. Other then that I kinda like the Shredder look as well as the art. My only concern is how New 52 Shiva compares to original Shiva. Is she gonna be a jobber? Or will she actually be on par with Batman in terms of martial arts prowess....

#31 Posted by Mercy_ (94425 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a fan of the art at all.

#32 Posted by mightypug78 (374 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he'll put up a good fight but in the end, he'll lose. nightwing is great but he is nowhere near as experienced as lady shiva.

#33 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6958 posts) - - Show Bio

How many times are they going to do the "Robin dies at Dawn" shtick? This is like the second or third time (in a way).

#34 Posted by The Poet (8646 posts) - - Show Bio

interesting...look forward to actually reading this...

#35 Posted by SUNMAN (7657 posts) - - Show Bio

hope thee two end up as a couple

#36 Posted by ganthetjr (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Guinaldo makes Dick look like an over-muscled ten-year-old.

#37 Posted by Perfect 10 (1655 posts) - - Show Bio

@DDangelico: i was thinking the same thing except i actually like the art lol. he just needs to make him look his age. but why are they still on this mortal kombat shiva concept? let it co DC. she is deadly with just her hands and hardly EVER uses any weapons. can we go back to that please?

#38 Posted by CatBoy (48 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmashBrawler: Amen. They did that in the Batgirl Annual. It's just cheesy and takes the reader out of the story. And who are they announcing their names to? We obviously know who they are. Annoying.

#39 Posted by TDK_1997 (16638 posts) - - Show Bio

I want Eddy Barows back!

#40 Posted by TheDarkestNight (92 posts) - - Show Bio

Not liking Nightwing's hair.

#41 Posted by chocobojam (288 posts) - - Show Bio

So when we will see the new 52 Cassandra!?

#42 Posted by Crash_Recovery (855 posts) - - Show Bio

The Lady Shiva redesign really seems unnecessary. I liked Nightwing's old blue outfit, but I appreciate that the red brings him more in line with the color themes of the Bat family at this moment.

Shiva looked pretty good in her older outfits and now seems more generic. At first glance I actually thought she was a variant on one of the Court's Talons.

#43 Posted by Stormbox (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol this looks lame

#44 Posted by zachkastner (188 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry Nightwing but I'm out for this issue.

No Higgins, no Barrows, a crappy Shiva redesign and a lackluster issue 13. I'm just going to gear up for Death of the Family. I'll be back Dick, but not for this Shiva garbage.

#45 Posted by pingclang (558 posts) - - Show Bio

Shiva looks like she is wearing a bottom feeder fish on her head. Kinda dumb. I look forward to the issue but this feels like a 90's Image book to me as of late. I guess we'll see.

#46 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7475 posts) - - Show Bio

I have so many questions...Is Dick Asian now? He looks like my cousin. When did Lady Shiva rob Shredder of his costume? Why is she carrying ninja weapons, even though she's Chinese? Also why does she decide to fight Dick in BROAD DAYLIGHT? So many questions that need to be answered.

#47 Posted by Reignmaker (2368 posts) - - Show Bio

I really dig Nightwing as a character and I know his book sells ok. But I don't really see myself ever consistently following his solo book because I just don't feel like DC ever gives him the all-star talent Batman receives.

Oh well, will probably hop on for the Death of the Family tie-in.

#48 Posted by RedOwl_1 (1743 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks like something, not going to read it because it makes me lazy (When I get the comic I jump what I already read on previews XP)

The art isn't it's strong point..... but I read Teen Titans all the way with THAT art..... so I'm sure I can handle this :D

#49 Posted by ronzimmerman (4 posts) - - Show Bio

I love this art. don't know why everyone doesn't. it's a reboot. he's meant to be young again.

#50 Posted by DocFishstick (242 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing is my favorite and yeah the art is ok but can't wait to see whaat the joker has plan for him.