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Posted by gmanfromheck (41909 posts) - - Show Bio

Yesterday we heard the news about several titles getting canceled. What's going to take their place? We don't know the full list yet but today, DC has announced on their blog the details for two new series joining The Edge family of books.

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The two new series will each represent themes that came out of Occupy Wall Street. It's the 1% vs the 99%, in two separate titles.

On May 1, THE MOVEMENT will be a new series written by Gail Simone with art by Freddie Williams II. This is what Simone had to say over at Huffington Post:

THE MOVEMENT is an idea I've had for some time. It's a book about power -- who owns it, who uses it, who suffers from its abuse. As we increasingly move to an age where information is currency, you get these situations where a single viral video can cost a previously unassailable corporation billions, or can upset the power balance of entire governments. And because the sources of that information are so dispersed and nameless, it's nearly impossible to shut it all down.

The other series THE GREEN TEAM, is on sale May 22. The Eisner Award-winning team of Art Baltazar and Franco make their New 52 debut with artist Ig Guara.

Art Baltazar teased the following:

The real question is: Can money buy you anything in the DC universe? Would it make you powerful? Can it make you a hero? Can money make you…Super?

Franco added to this with the following statement:

If you had unlimited wealth, could you use that to make the lives of people better? Would you help your fellow man? Would you buy powers? You need to read this and find out.

We'll have to stay tuned to find out more.

Source: DC Comics

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#1 Posted by entee (76 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't help but feel that this'll get cancelled in a few months

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#2 Posted by Batnandez (522 posts) - - Show Bio

@entee: i think DC has had to cancel something like 24 titles since the relaunch.

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#3 Edited by Hastny (60 posts) - - Show Bio

@entee said:

I can't help but feel that this'll get cancelled in a few months

This.

Why should we waste money on this kind of titles when we know DC may not even give them a proper chance before giving it the boot? If it doesnt sell it obviously doesnt have a place in the New 52, and why risk falling in love with a series if it means such disappointment.

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#4 Posted by The Stegman (34844 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, the more DC cancels titles I like, the less hope I have that the ones replacing them will last, I'll check these out...but honestly, DC has left me jaded now.

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#5 Posted by sbpart01 (12 posts) - - Show Bio

So DC decided to get rid of hawkman and deathstroke for this...wtf.

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#6 Posted by SoA (6214 posts) - - Show Bio

pass.

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#7 Posted by damswedon (545 posts) - - Show Bio

So it is the Alan Grant Detective Comics run minus a writer who had spent ten year weaving politics into Judge Dredd. If Anarky shows up in any of these comics I will scream.

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#8 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Batnandez:I think 38 of the 52 are still going, but seeing as they've cancelled titles that weren't first wave, you could be right.

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#9 Posted by chalkshark (1271 posts) - - Show Bio

The Green Team? Seriously? This is the title they decide to revive?

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#10 Edited by longbowhunter (9350 posts) - - Show Bio

Hate to prematurely judge. But no and thank you.

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#11 Posted by inferiorego (25404 posts) - - Show Bio

The creative teams on these books are awesome. I shall give them a shot.

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#12 Posted by Dernman (21578 posts) - - Show Bio

I read more info on this elsewhere and it sounds less like two different sides telling telling different messages as two different sides pushing the same message from different points of view. Unless I'm wrong.   Typical

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#13 Posted by LarryDavis (143 posts) - - Show Bio

It's... Timely, it's a very timely thing.

I'll probably read the Baltazar/Franco one. Gail Simone, blecccch.

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#14 Posted by ALFMutant (186 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't even understand what these books will be about.

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#15 Posted by AWeekInGeekdom (238 posts) - - Show Bio

I like them venturing into new grounds with such obscure revivals as the Green Team but titles like Ravagers and Sword of Sorcery could have been given a chance to shine. I seriously don't see these new green/red occupy books lasting long.

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#16 Posted by inferiorego (25404 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait.... Where's my Prez reboot?

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#17 Posted by Imagine_Man15 (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll definitely give them a shot, I'm intrigued.

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#18 Posted by ptigrusmagus (496 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, so after a handful of cancellations THIS is what DC replaced them with? I have absolutely zero interest in either of these.

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#19 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (44949 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

Honestly, the more DC cancels titles I like, the less hope I have that the ones replacing them will last, I'll check these out...but honestly, DC has left me jaded now.
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#20 Posted by The Mighty Monarch (3730 posts) - - Show Bio

@inferiorego said:

The creative teams on these books are awesome. I shall give them a shot.

THIS.

@Hastny said:

@entee said:

I can't help but feel that this'll get cancelled in a few months

This.

Why should we waste money on this kind of titles when we know DC may not even give them a proper chance before giving it the boot? If it doesnt sell it obviously doesnt have a place in the New 52, and why risk falling in love with a series if it means such disappointment.

This is why these series' get cancelled. That mentality is too widespread.

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#21 Posted by Impala (270 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone expects they will be bad but i hope the can prove the opposite. I'll try them for sure.

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#22 Posted by mcclellanscott (91 posts) - - Show Bio

I am seriously thinking of breaking my goal of reading all the New 52. This is nowhere near what I am interested. Maybe Green Team, but definitely NOT digging the Movement one bit.

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#23 Posted by wimble23 (1189 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool idea for a miniseries but not an ongoing.

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#24 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8211 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems interesting

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#25 Edited by CircularLogic (320 posts) - - Show Bio

@AWeekInGeekdom said:

I like them venturing into new grounds with such obscure revivals as the Green Team but titles like Ravagers and Sword of Sorcery could have been given a chance to shine. I seriously don't see these new green/red occupy books lasting long.

Sales almost never actually go up from the first issue. Because of that, 3-4 issues in and you can tell when a book just won't last/ Nothing could have saved those books at the rates they were selling.

In any case, Gail Simone alone will probably keep the red book going.

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#26 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3975 posts) - - Show Bio

The Movement seems like it could be interesting. Might check it out. Not gonna hold my breath, though.

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#27 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1394 posts) - - Show Bio

And the books that people actually want are:

Shazam!

Cyborg

Martian Manhunter

Atom

Zatanna

Not Vibe, Katana, Green Team, and the Movement.

Also, why is DC sticking with an arbitrary 52 titles when they clearly can't sustain it? So many of these books have no point in existing. I'm not a Marvel fanboy, but they seem to know how to manage titles better.

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#28 Posted by longbowhunter (9350 posts) - - Show Bio

@inferiorego: I really, really loved that Prez story Neil Gaiman did with Mike Allred in Sandman.

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#29 Posted by inferiorego (25404 posts) - - Show Bio

@longbowhunter said:

@inferiorego: I really, really loved that Prez story Neil Gaiman did with Mike Allred in Sandman.

I'm reading Sandman currently, and when I heard about that story, I got super excited. I can't wait to get to that issue.

I seriously love Prez. Yes, it's stupid, but I like stupid sometimes.

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#30 Posted by DEGRAAF (8398 posts) - - Show Bio

These both seem like HORRIBLE bases for comics. Out of all their ideas this is what they came up with!?!

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#31 Posted by xtremekidx (590 posts) - - Show Bio

ill try them both for the team on the titles......though i will say the concept doesnt really intrigue that much.

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#32 Posted by Impala (270 posts) - - Show Bio

After this 2 i'm not gonna be surprised to see Binky Biggs again xD

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#33 Posted by Hastny (60 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Mighty Monarch: Hey, I've been following I,vampire, Voodoo, Sword of sorcery, Blue beetle and the new Deathstroke, all titles wich I loved and that has now been cancelled. I'm just tired of losing great books because DC is getting greedy. If they cancel Dial H and Demon Knights as well I swear I'm gonna break something.

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#34 Posted by Reignmaker (2368 posts) - - Show Bio

Comics getting political. Sounds like fun. Or not.

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#35 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (44949 posts) - - Show Bio

@DEGRAAF said:

These both seem like HORRIBLE bases for comics. Out of all their ideas this is what they came up with!?!

a book about super heroes fighting social injustice and a book about rich pepole going on adventures are bad ideas for comics? Thats exactly what Green Arrow and Iron Man/Batman are.

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#36 Posted by Mezmero (1005 posts) - - Show Bio

Something about this concept reminds me of something I tried to write a while back. I wrote a short story about basically hobos with super powers who had to fight super villains who were the upper crust of society. One of the good guys would like form weapons from the coins in his begging cup, like a whip or staff. Then he'd have to fight a villain who throws credit cards like Bullseye-style. As I tried writing more it felt a bit in poor taste. All I was doing was taking social class stereotypes and making ridiculous reasons for them to fight. This has me intrigued enough to check out these books.

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#37 Posted by Novaar (58 posts) - - Show Bio

The Occupy movement? Really? That's the latest bandwagon? Is that because a lot of the groups wear V masks (copyright: Big Bucks film studio...you know, the type you're protesting against, Occupy fans...) ;)

Like many of the people on here I'm disappointed that the new titles didn't get a chance to shine. In a world where half of the comics seem to be Bat or Supes related (yes I'm tweaking that up a little, yes they sell) it's disappointing that other comics are not given a chance. I like Sword and Sorcery, especially the Beowulf back-up story and I was interested in where they would take Stalker. And I'd just started to get into T7, what with them usining Eclipso and the hints that people like Majestic and Spartan are going to appear (two characters I'm curious about in the New 52 world.

I remember reading of the main Comicvine people suggesting that we should have another Bat title to explain what had happened in the New 52 past rather than 'rebooting obscure characters'. I remember hating that idea but that's still better than this. I'm pre-judging, and hats off if it's great, but I doubt it will be.

I guess that's why Marvel have started to draw me back. Sure they may have event, after event, after event (wait, not after, almost at the same time as!). New 52 still has a lot going for it but, just lately, its gone a bit off the boil for me.

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#38 Posted by The_Tree (8608 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Team sounds kind of interesting, but I don't know if I'll want to read it if it gets cancelled after only a few issues. The Movement sounds like more of that 99%/Occupy bulls###. Neither of these will last.

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#39 Posted by Duo_forbidden (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

The concept sounds awesome, but can those two series find an actual ground? Like what most people said already, I wouldn't be surprised if those two get canceled in 7 issues.

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#40 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (11016 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to get this, but it may be better as a mini series than an ongoing

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#41 Posted by kennybaese (1241 posts) - - Show Bio

It seems to me like everyone is pissed off at DC for cancelling books like Sword and Sorcery(ostensibly because they didn't perform well in sales) and adding books like this because DC is just going to cancel them because they won't sell. Seems like a self fulfilling prophesy to me. Personally, I'm glad that DC is even trying weird and risky books like Sword and Sorcery or these two new books at all. It isn't their fault that they don't sell well. At the end of the day, they're a business and if a book isn't selling well, it makes sense that they'd want to cut it and replace it with something else.

Honestly, the creative teams on these books have me on board, and the concept intrigues me. I'll definitely have to add these to the pull next time I get to the shop.

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#42 Posted by Mucklefluga (2653 posts) - - Show Bio

I think this is great! Its something different! Do i think its good because im British? Or is it weird that i think its cool and that i am British? Sound off your thoughts below

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#43 Edited by evilvegeta74 (4673 posts) - - Show Bio

@entee said:

I can't help but feel that this'll get cancelled in a few months

Many people use comics as an escape from the harsh realities of the world. Rough times at home, school,financial woes, religion, and politics, are reasons children or teens may be introduced to comics . Could it be , Dc comics doesn't reconize this ,or will Batman be making appearances to help boost sales in these books as well. Actually it wouldn't matter, these titles are set up for epic fail, and someone please post the sales results, so we all can say I told you so!

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#44 Posted by MyComicStoreDotNET (47 posts) - - Show Bio

Got to give DC credit for taking a (perceived) risk with these titles.

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#45 Posted by GothamRed (2616 posts) - - Show Bio

umm...topical?

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#46 Posted by Icon (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

These sound really interesting.

Anyway I think it's unfair when people say that DC decided to cancel such and such for whatever new books are coming out. Frankly, it's the readers (or rather the lack of readers) who decide to cancel a book. If they're not being read or bought then how is DC supposed to continue it? They have no reason to want to loose money on an unpopular series that isn't profitable. If those books were being supported by readers then they would not be canceled. And all comics publishers operate that way. It's the same thing with TV shows. They get canceled if the ratings aren't there, yet I only hear comics readers blaming the publishers as if the decision to cancel was made just to offend them. So stupid.

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#47 Posted by Herx (530 posts) - - Show Bio

Now after talking a little time to read the post and the following comments I've come to this conclusion:

The ideas are good, especially if these 2 books are going to be interwoven with one and other: looking at one situation through the perspective of 2 different groups, with each group giving a coherent dialogue, be it action packed or not, that would allow the reader to understand the thinking on both sides of the fence and come up onto their own conclusion afterwards. Something that makes readers think, where situations aren't black and white. Though I do admit that this is just me imagining how such titles could work as the reality may be very different esspecially if these 2 titles aren't interwoven, which considering the idea of the 1% and the 99% they should, than neither will go anywhere as you'd not have the duality of the situation. And for 2 titles to be placed in "the edge" line I think it's great, as it also expands the ideas of what kind of future titles can fall into this line and not labelling it as "the intense blood and violence" line of books. Additionally the creative teams behind these books are good with Simone, the un-fireable, Herald of a large fan base that shall follow her every works, on "Movement" and the guys behind Tiny Titans on "green team" (though it does ask the question of the which tone the series will have?). Plus these cover images look darn fine (I'm a sucker for this kind of cover work).

Now the problem as I see are as thus: These titles are said to be inspired by the occupy wall street movement, which I admit don't know much about (sorry) but from what I gather basically comes down to 1% of people having a larger quantity of wealth than the 99% (.... like I said I don't know much), but if that's the case than I just have to say one thing. This isn't new. It's not recent. Sure the whole occupy movement appeared on the news recently (recently being used in the sense of not a few years ago) but the inequality between those who've had money and those who didn't has been going on for a VEEEEEEERY long time and both DC and Marvel have told stories about this topic (or similar ones) before. This is not new, it's simply DC cashing in on a event which occured recently (esspecially considering that most of the people wore the Guy Fawks masks that was worn by V in V for Vendeta. A property owned by DC) in hopes of being, and pardon my way of phrase here "down with the kids" and "topical" They've tried being topical before and it's resulted in poor result due to writers either having a baies to the message in which they're trying to tell (Amazons attack, Battle for Bludhaven = badly written metaphors for the Iraq war) so if this is comming off of the coat tails of the movement than there are going to be biases in the writing (despite how good these writers are). Secondly people are peeved at the idea that titles such as these replaced the 8 other titles cancelled recently (the 6 from yesterday and the 2 last month) and with the current speed at which titles are being cancelled us as readers aren't given time to get over some frustration over the cancellations and the creative teams remarks before having new series which, on first impression, we are not going to look at posetivley due to only just hearing about cancellations and having no closure with the other titles. Finally as a result of being a new titles (or in the case of The Green Team a n52 reimagination of a previous property), having a premise which isn't open or interesting to many readers, some of which who want escapism not reality, and which is set in the line of books of the DCNU which aren't at the forefront of some peoples mind these titles, unfortuanatly will not resceive a large audience and as a result shan't have a large number of sails.

Now as far as new series go I do hope that they do well and that an audiance does come to them (or at least, if their cancelled they end up becomming cult classics which urge DC to launch them again) but DC's unstable line with constant cancellations is making people lose hope, and will probably result in all that new 52 shine which finally (after many, many, many years of titles, story arks, and captain carrot) saw them overtake the House of ideas in sales disapear, allowing marvels sales from their NOW line to return them to the top.

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#48 Posted by BKole (578 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Mighty Monarch said:

@inferiorego said:

The creative teams on these books are awesome. I shall give them a shot.

THIS.

@Hastny said:

@entee said:

I can't help but feel that this'll get cancelled in a few months

This.

Why should we waste money on this kind of titles when we know DC may not even give them a proper chance before giving it the boot? If it doesnt sell it obviously doesnt have a place in the New 52, and why risk falling in love with a series if it means such disappointment.

This is why these series' get cancelled. That mentality is too widespread.

This is 100% accurate. If you don't want to try it, that's fine. Others, however, do want to give something new a go. Comics are not 100% prats wearing their pants on the outside punching other prats into buildings. Some readers wants something a little bit different, mature or indeed intelligent. God forbid we be allowed to have something different instead of homogenized Batman and SELECTED CHARACTER OF THE WEEK spun into forty eight on-goings.

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#49 Posted by Manbehindthewires (361 posts) - - Show Bio

@inferiorego said:

Wait.... Where's my Prez reboot?

Here's a pictoral metaphor to answer your question :P

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#50 Posted by inferiorego (25404 posts) - - Show Bio

@Manbehindthewires said:

@inferiorego said:

Wait.... Where's my Prez reboot?

Here's a pictoral metaphor to answer your question :P

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DON'T DROP HIM, SUPERGIRL! DISOBEY YOUR ORDERS!

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