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#1 Posted by animehunter (5664 posts) - - Show Bio
Issue #27 Cover
Issue #27 Cover

CATWOMAN #27

Written by ANN NOCENTI

Art by RAFA SANDOVAL and JORDI TARRAGONA

Cover by TERRY DODSON and RACHEL DODSON

On sale JANUARY 29 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T+

A “GOTHTOPIA” tie-In! Everything’s all right in Selina Kyle’s world. As the fabled Catbird of Gotham City, she fights alongside Batman to keep the city safe. So why does it all feel so wrong?

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#2 Posted by PeppeyHare (4330 posts) - - Show Bio

lol Ann Nocenti

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#3 Edited by TDK_1997 (17445 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't wait for the arrival of Layman on the book because Noccneti just did too many bad things to Selina.

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#4 Posted by Marionettegeist (1936 posts) - - Show Bio

That's it, I'm officially an Ann Nocenti fan now. It's so bad its good. She should label all her work as "comedy", it's the only way she'd get good reviews.

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#5 Posted by Teerack (10621 posts) - - Show Bio

I think this is cool.

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#6 Posted by Kewirje (38 posts) - - Show Bio
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#7 Posted by Kewirje (38 posts) - - Show Bio

What kind of drugs must one consume to come up with this?

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#8 Posted by turel_hash_ak_gik (350 posts) - - Show Bio

oh crack.

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#9 Posted by lifeofvibe (3774 posts) - - Show Bio

ooooh this...is...odd...

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#10 Edited by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6732 posts) - - Show Bio

What's Gothtopia?

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#11 Posted by LyraFay (2643 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Batman have a fetish we don't know about??

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#12 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6732 posts) - - Show Bio

What's Gothtopia?

It looks like it might be some kind of alternate reality story, so a change like this maybe isn't so strange.

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#13 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

Solicit makes it sound like an alt reality story.

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#14 Edited by smiling4ever (37 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997: Yes, please give us a new writer....I can't take it anymore.

Thank goodness it is probably just an alt story.

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#15 Posted by TDK_1997 (17445 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997: Yes, please give us a new writer....I can't take it anymore.

Thank goodness it is probably just an alt story.

Even as an alt story it would probably suck.

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#16 Posted by the_tree (8607 posts) - - Show Bio

Hahahahahahahahahaha. That's too funny. How could anyone let this be a thing?

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#17 Posted by animehunter (5664 posts) - - Show Bio

This could explain the new look & Name

From CBR

Traditionally, Gotham City is neither a nice place to visit, nor would you want to live there. An area called "Crime Alley" is within walking distance from movie theaters where wealthy families go for a night out on the town, and the security at the local insane asylum is dubious at best.

But that's not the case in "Gothtopia," an upcoming DC Comics storyline starting in January's 96-page page "Detective Comics" #27. Along with a host of stories from marquee creators (including Scott Snyder, Sean Murphy, Paul Dini, Neal Adams and Frank Miller) commemorating the original "Detective Comics" #27 -- Batman's first appearance -- writer John Layman and artist Jason Fabok launch "Gothtopia," a series where Gotham City is a considerably happier place, Batwing is the town's protector and Batman fights crime alongside "Catbird" -- Selina Kyle.

The story will run through March's "Detective Comics" #29, and acts as the capper of "Chew" co-creator Layman's run on the book, before he makes the transition over to weekly series "Batman: Eternal." In fact, "Gothtopia" was originally conceived as running solely through "Detective" as a self-contained three-parter, but it grew into something larger, branching out into tie-in issues of "Batgirl,""Batwing,""Birds of Prey" and "Catwoman."

During the course of our conversation, Layman made it clear that "Gothtopia" isn't an Elseworlds or "imaginary story." However, the writer remained non-committal as to what's actually causes the massive changes to Batman's stomping grounds.

CBR News: John, what can you share with us about "Gothtopia" in this early stage? Based on the January solicitations, it would appear to be safe to assume it's an alternate reality story, but is that indeed the case?

John Layman: It is and it isn't, which is the cagey answer. I can't really say a whole lot more than that without ruining it, which I don't want to do, but this is not an Elseworlds or an imaginary story. This is the new reality of the [DC Universe] Batverse -- at least for this storyline. It's a brighter, happier Gotham, where crime is down and everybody is where they want to be, who they want to be and, in some cases, with who they want to be. So, uh, what's the problem?

What is your role in the series? You're obviously writing the first chapter, but did you also conceive of the story as a whole?

I conceived the story as a 3-parter, my last "Detective" arc before moving on to the upcoming "Batman: Eternal". I guess the editors saw potential for it to be something bigger, because they passed the concept around the Bat-office, with a call for participants. Other people saw enough potential in the story they wanted to jump in and make the story bigger and more vast.

Creatively, what goes into shaping this take on Gotham City? How much world-building does it involve, between both the writers and the artists? Presumably, it's a case of keeping Gotham recognizable while highlighting the relevant differences.

Both the hardest -- and the most fun -- part is doing a new take on all the familiar faces in Gotham. This is, at least on the surface, a brighter, shinier Gotham, and the heroes reflect that. Gotham is a city of dark shadows, and we've see plenty of "dark reflections" of various heroes and villains over the years. What happens we when see a "light reflection?"

And if this Gotham is so much better, why would anybody possibly want it any other way, or to return it to normal?

The "Batgirl" solicitation mentions a new female character sporting a pretty famous name in Batman lore -- Knightfall. Is there anything you can share at this point about her?

I'm writing "Detective," so my answers are going to stick to that. Knightfall is pivotal to the "Batgirl" story, but not so much with "Detective."

Ra's al Ghul also pops up in the solicitations, for "Birds of Prey" -- how major of a factor is he in the story?

As with the previous answer, each writer got to take the fundamentals to this new universe and expand upon it with characters of their choice. Ra's plays a role in "BoP," just as Knightfall does in "Batgirl." But "Detective" has its own villain to contend with, and I ain't sayin' who it is!

Finally, quite a few Bat-books are tying into "Gothtopia," at least in January -- what was the determination process in which series wold play a role?

As I understand it, the Bat editors just opened the door to whoever wanted to be a part of it and let people who had other plans do their own thing. There's a lot of creative freedom in the Bat-office. I'm just very flattered at all the people who wanted to be part of "Gothtopia," and make it even bigger and cooler.

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#18 Posted by HexThis (1135 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm so conflicted, if I don't buy Catwoman comics then they'll cancel her but if I do then I enable Ann Noncenti's immature, cartoonish version of Selina Kyle.

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#19 Posted by Wowlock (898 posts) - - Show Bio

Well this Catbird persona might be quite interesting and actually make me happy by bringing Selina and Bruce's more ''light'' interactions rather than beating eachother up or have an angry sex.

As I said the best part of Earth-2 for me was Helena's part and it was cut too short to be honest. If this version can give me even a glimpse of that after the Retcons , sad ignorance of great stories like Hush and so forth , I will be glad to look at this GOTHTOPIA. I am just worried it will be '' EVIL MANIPULATION ALL ALONG ! ''

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#20 Edited by senglord (2715 posts) - - Show Bio

I suffer through the weak characterization a of female DC characters because I lack the money to just go over to Marvel.

But DC is so much more iconic.

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#21 Posted by hsshires (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Ann Nocenti have a contract or something? How and why is she still writing? She's awful. Just awful. Let a third-grader write Catwoman. That would be better. I mean, Catbird?! Please...

I want to read Catwoman. She's my favorite. But I just can't. Not with Nocenti writing this crap.