Zoom(Flashpoint) vs Silver Surfer(Annhilation)

 
if its to one-sided for either of them use the regular versions.

How is Flashpoint Zoom any different from normal Zoom?

How is Flashpoint Zoom any different from normal Zoom?

@TheSupremeBeing: I thinksilver surferwins this:)

surfer

Been discussed.Zoom wins.

Been discussed.Zoom wins.

zoom

@CitizenBane: Is there any clear difference?Is this one just a normal Flash?

Thawne can win if he manages to somehow touch Surfer, since he can revert him to a fetus or accelerate him to his age of death. I don't know if the Power Cosmic would prevent that kind of personal time manipulation. If Surfer gets in the air first, it's a moot point.

zoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

Surfer, he has better time travel feats, he's way, way way more durable

and he can transmute Zoom into a bunch of flowers

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Surfer IMO.

Yeah, Surfer takes this.

@JediXMan said:

How is Flashpoint Zoom any different from normal Zoom?

He's not. The only difference is that Flashpoint's Thawne isn't forbidden from killing Barry Allen, but that's not relevant to this scenario.

How is Reverse flash different from Reverse Flash normal (They are both Eobard Twayne not Hunter Zolomon) and how is Surfer now different from Annihilation?

Bump. I actually think this is a great battle

I actually don't think surfer needs to move to win he just transmutes zoom or whatever he's standing on... Whether surfers durability could hold up for the 1st couple IMPs is another story... Surfer for the slight majority

Couldn't Eobard just accelerate Norrins age?

@supermanwithatan01: I'm pretty sure Surfer doesn't age...

@maninthemountain: I honestly don't know. Eobard could snap his neck to KO him or Vibrate his brain out or vibrate him apart. Your thoughts?

I approve.

@supermanwithatan01: okay...

surfer could transmute him, trap him in his board, use matter manipulation, and he can phase through matter as well. Thawne can't vibrate through Surfer because apparently he's suppose to be able to turn intangible, and he has shields, so I don't know. you can't snap Surfer's silver neck unless you have the Anti-Power Cosmic Mjolnr and you constantly pound on his neck with Mjolnr. Honestly I think they're almost the same speed, with Thawne being a little faster. It's just the fact that Surfer has a LOT more abilities than speed...

@maninthemountain: "could" do something is not the same thing as able to do something.. There's absolutely no doubt the Surfer is more powerful. But he's no where near as fast as Thawne. That is a fact. Because of this, he could be dead or KO'd by the time he "thinks" to do anything. His fastest reaction time ever is nanosecond. Which isn't remotely as fast as Thawne.

@nickthedevil your thoughts Sir? Youre the resident Professor Zoom expert

@supermanwithatan01: you used "could" as well when you said Thawne COULD snap Surfer's neck or COULD vibrate through him. I understand Zolomon is ridiculously fast, but has Professor Zoom ever been faster than Surfer by a lot? Because for instance let's say Thawne is faster than surfer. What is he gonna do? I doubt his punches are strong enough to damage Surfer unless he can IMP, and he can't vibrate through him because Surfer has full control over his molecules. In fact, he's a planetary molecule and energy manipulator. Eventually, Surfer will get one hit after Thawne's multiple punches, and one absorption through the surfboard or one energy blast is all he need.

@maninthemountain: but Thawne actually could. Thawne can IMP, he can also phase his punches causing things to explode that he phases through. He is a killer and wouldn't hesitate to throw IMP's while vibrating the hits so that Surfer explodes. As for him being that much faster, Thawne is much closer to Wally than he is to Barry. His top speed/reaction feats put him above Norrin simply by being quite a bit faster than Barry. By necessity, he is also faster with better reaction time than Norrin. I'm not saying Eobard wins but both have ways of subdoing the other thats all.

@supermanwithatan01:

1. I've never seen or heard of Professor Zoom ever using IMP. I know he can phase through objects though. I would like to see scans of him using it effectively on herald level characters.

2. Thawne is the archenemy of Barry Allen. He is MUCH closer to Barry than Wally in terms of reaction speed, I know that for sure. I would also like to see his best reaction feats.

3. I understand if Thawne is faster in reaction speed he will get more hits of. But how strong are his hits? Surfer has tanked pretty powerful stuff (except his embarrassing Thor and Thanos moments of course) and I am not sure Thawne can hit hard enough to deal serious damage. I'm pretty sure Thawne has never performed a deadly IMP either.

4. What happens if SS were to possibly turn intangible? What about matter and energy manipulation? Telepathy? Is Thawne's durability strong enough to tank Surfer's blasts?

5. How is Thawne's travel speed? Couldn't surfer just stay away from a distance and just continue to blast him?

Norrin still wins.

bump @nickthedevil your thoughts sir?

Like you noted, Thawne should come out the clear victor.

Could Thawne age Norrin? Beat him into submission?

Surfer dude...

Surfer

Silver Surfer defeats Thawne. Surfer and Thawne can both enter the time stream on speed alone, but after that, the comparisons stop dead cold.

The only Zoom that might have a chance against the Surfer would be Zolomon.

Flashpoint Thawne would defeat Norrin imo.

But Hunter slaughters him.

Zoom easily

Surfer

Surfer

Explain how Zoom wins???? There is only one character in all of marvel faster than him if i remember right (Gladiator and that's travel speed.) If touched the Surfer, the power cosmic could manipulate the speed force and do what ever he wanted with it all while turning zoom into a carebear

@thunderbol2: Surfer is faster than Gladiator and Reverse Flash has no chance here lol. SS doesn't age and has planetary to solar system durability.