@_Black: Zoom = Thanos, WOW just wow his greatest feat is JLA busting, lets compare that to any of the hundreds of thanos feats. And do you mean the time where thanos waited till his back was turned to attack him and brought him to deaths realm as a offering, which really doesn't count?
Zoom doesn't have the speed force like wally his powers have to do with manipulating time around him, go read a flash comic. There isn't a single one that attributes his powers to the speed force.
@icysloth: He doesn't need the speed force tard. He's faster than Wally is and can vibrate Surfer back into a solid state and continue to beat the shit out of him.
Superman doesn't have the speed force and guess what? he can still go intangible and vibrate through solids
@KipFistor: Hes not faster than wally, he slows time around him so it seems like he is moving fast, he can do this to such an externt that he appears faster than wally. Superman can't go intangible or vibrate through solids.Zoom can't control his speed at a molecular level like flash so he cant vibrate through solids, he can go intangible but that has to do with time traveling. Welcome to the vine a prerequisite should be that you have to have knowledge about the characters but sadly that is not the case.
@KipFistor: Hes not faster than wally, he slows time around him so it seems like he is moving fast, he can do this to such an externt that he appears faster than wally. Superman can't go intangible or vibrate through solids.Zoom can't control his speed at a molecular level like flash so he cant vibrate through solids, he can go intangible but that has to do with time traveling.
You're retarded. Zoom gains super speed by controlling time relative to himself. The only thing Wally can do that Zoom arguably can't is speed steal
Supes can intangible and invisible by vibrating his molecules.
Not to bright are ya, that's ok, I'll try to talk slowly for you
@KipFistor: The doomsday scan is just him hitting him hard. The other scan shows him going invisible not moving through solids, If zoom has the ability to vibrate his molecules find a scan and post his feat not superman's feat.
and these are saying the same thing I know exactly how zoom's powers work. You obviously don't
@icysloth said:
@KipFistor: Hes not faster than wally, he slows time around him so it seems like he is moving fast, he can do this to such an externt that he appears faster than wally.
@KipFistor said:
You're retarded. Zoom gains super speed by controlling time relative to himself.
@icysloth:Zoom should be able to tag silver surfer with thunder claps. He has shown he can cause area of effect by snapping his fingers.
As for killing surfer who says he has to kill him? Knock out or incapacitation are good enough. Also I should probably tell you to ignore dex_Starr. Just flag him and move on.
Thor and Silver Surfer will win this battle. Them together are just too strong and fast for Zoom.
Translation: I've never read a comic with Zoom
@icysloth:
@KipFistor: The doomsday scan is just him hitting him hard. The other scan shows him going invisible not moving through solids, If zoom has the ability to vibrate his molecules find a scan and post his feat not superman's feat.
and these are saying the same thing I know exactly how zoom's powers work. You obviously don't
So do you just enjoy making things up or is it a habit? Superman is vibrating through Doomsdays lighting fire breath. He can go intangible and invisible by vibrating his molecules which kills your entire theory of people without the speed force being unable to replicate some of Flashes feats. Superman could theoretically vibrate Surfer or Martian back into a solid too, and evne if he can't Zoom certainly can
@XiiX: Yes but both of them together can beat Zoom because even though they may not be stronger or faster but both of them together can beat him based but it would be a very close fight but Thor and SS win.
@_Black: Zoom = Thanos, WOW just wow his greatest feat is JLA busting, lets compare that to any of the hundreds of thanos feats. And do you mean the time where thanos waited till his back was turned to attack him and brought him to deaths realm as a offering, which really doesn't count?
You apparently don't know what I'm talking about or you'd understand. I'm talking about when Thanos killed Norrin with like 6 punches.
@jonEsherfey: no both Thor and Silver surfer are in a higher strength class than zoom, they both have larger power sets and more feats, if he can't find zoom vibrating his molecules or he doesn't state he can vibrate his molecules than by battle forum rules he can't vibrate his molecules. Surfers feats outclasses zoom in every manner even speed. Kipfistor is just a troll. Zoom may be able to beat thor but not surfer.
@_Black: I remember Thanos bringing him to death's realm, what issue are you talking about?
@KipFistor: No concession has been given, you are a troll.
@jashro44: Your right he doesn't have to die, but someone made the comment Zoom could kill him which he can't. He also sould be able to tag him with thunderclaps as Hulk has done it in the past even if surfer has gotten up and beat him to a pulp, but what is stopping Surfer from just breaking zoom down on a molecular level, or altering the matter around his feet in an area greater than zooms temporal zone so he cant run? OR going intangible so Zoom cant hit him, or moving through time himself.
surfer for sure has taken on greater threats than anything zoom has encountered. Name one celestial level being Hunter has fought.
@_Black: Thanos is above a class 100 zoom isn't. Thanos >>>>>> Zoom. I haven't read that issue but it doesn't look like he is dying just like a regular beatdown.
surfer for sure has taken on greater threats than anything zoom has encountered. Name one celestial level being Hunter has fought.
@_Black: Thanos is above a class 100 zoom isn't. Thanos >>>>>> Zoom. I haven't read that issue but it doesn't look like he is dying just like a regular beatdown.
It's not a lifting contest. Zoom has punched Wonder Woman to Africa before and has hurt her and Superman. He should have no problem hurting either Norrin or Thor when he throws a million punches in a second.
@_Black: Surfer can blow up that planet they are fighting on morals off and zoom suffocates without an atmosphere so can Thor. And there is no reason to assume they wouldn't as the world they are fighting on is unpopulated.
@xxxweedkillerxx: do you know SS powers or you talk with no knowledge?
I've probably read more on Silver Surfer than you and most of these cry babies have. Show Surfer having attosecond reaction time. If you can't he loses, badly. Deal with it.
@_Black: so you are comparing SS with Superman.......well that shows your knowledge on SS.
Hooray for reading comprehension. You must've overlooked the fact that I was talking about durability.
@icysloth said:
@_Black: Surfer can blow up that planet they are fighting on morals off and zoom suffocates without an atmosphere so can Thor. And there is no reason to assume they wouldn't as the world they are fighting on is unpopulated.
As multiple people have said in this thread, Zoom will win before either of them can blink. He's too fast. It really is that simple.
@jashro44: Your right he doesn't have to die, but someone made the comment Zoom could kill him which he can't. He also sould be able to tag him with thunderclaps as Hulk has done it in the past even if surfer has gotten up and beat him to a pulp, but what is stopping Surfer from just breaking zoom down on a molecular level, or altering the matter around his feet in an area greater than zooms temporal zone so he cant run? OR going intangible so Zoom cant hit him, or moving through time himself.
I recall @nickthedevil mentioning in another thread zoom is actually resistant to molecular manipulation (He can correct me if I'm wrong). So that wont work. Any ways surfer isn't going to have time to alter the matte underneath zoom and since when does surfer do that in combat? Zoom was faster then wally after he took the speed of 3 flashes...Not even superman could see them. Surfer isn't reacting.
@jashro44: Your right he doesn't have to die, but someone made the comment Zoom could kill him which he can't. He also sould be able to tag him with thunderclaps as Hulk has done it in the past even if surfer has gotten up and beat him to a pulp, but what is stopping Surfer from just breaking zoom down on a molecular level, or altering the matter around his feet in an area greater than zooms temporal zone so he cant run? OR going intangible so Zoom cant hit him, or moving through time himself.
I recall @nickthedevil mentioning in another thread zoom is actually resistant to molecular manipulation (He can correct me if I'm wrong). So that wont work. Any ways surfer isn't going to have time to alter the matte underneath zoom and since when does surfer do that in combat? Zoom was faster then wally after he took the speed of 3 flashes...Not even superman could see them. Surfer isn't reacting.
Yeah. He is resistant to Molecular Manipulation. Not ever explained, but it's seen regularly.
and correction, Superman wasn't even aware of their fight. He was standing still.
I don't know much about Zoom, but according to what people say here, why doesn't he take down more people from the DCU on a daily basis? What is the limitation they exploit to usually keep him in check?
@DocFatalis: His morality. Zoom doesn't try to kill or expressly "defeat" his opponents. He tries to, as he puts it, "make them better" by making them experience tragedy or loss(specifically Flash).
@DocFatalis: His morality. Zoom doesn't try to kill or expressly "defeat" his opponents. He tries to, as he puts it, "make them better" by making them experience tragedy or loss(specifically Flash).
and to that he has a very short history, and his powers only lasted for about 4 years before he lost them. He wasnt around for very long, as was rarely used.
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