Z Broly enters Buu Arc.Can he clear it

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1on1 fights

Order you chose is irrelevant.

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Stops at ssj3 goku

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He'd do well imo but he definitely ain't clearing.

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Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Ultimate Gohan>Super Buu=SSJ3 Gotenks>Majin Buu=Kid Buu=>Goku>Vegeta>Broly>Saiyaman Gohan=Dabura

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He loses to SS2 Goku and Majin Vegeta.

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He'd do well imo but he definitely ain't clearing.

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Stops at Kid Buu, who also has a galaxy destroying feat, regen, candy beam, and absorption.

Ssj3 Goku should beat him too as long as his stamina holds out.

Fat Buu could probably go either way.

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Dead stop at Majin Vegeta.

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I have M8 Broly at a non-FP SSJ3 Goku so he doesn't clear for sure but he beats anyone SSJ2.

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Stop at Mystic Gohan

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No way Majin Vegeta is stopping him. No SSJ2 tier can replicate what Broly did to that galaxy even when argued as an over time feat.

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Probably stops at Super Buu

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Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Ultimate Gohan>Super Buu=SSJ3 Gotenks>Majin Buu=Kid Buu=>Goku>Vegeta>Broly>Saiyaman Gohan=Dabura

Im pretty sure Kid Buu shits on Buuhan.He was the final form for a reason

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@dertilt said:
@ouroborik said:

Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Ultimate Gohan>Super Buu=SSJ3 Gotenks>Majin Buu=Kid Buu=>Goku>Vegeta>Broly>Saiyaman Gohan=Dabura

Im pretty sure Kid Buu shits on Buuhan.He was the final form for a reason

He isn't. People still thinking Kid Buu who struggled with SSJ3 Goku is stronger than a fusion of Super Buu and Mystic Gohan are heavily misinforming themselves.

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@dertilt said:
@ouroborik said:

Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Ultimate Gohan>Super Buu=SSJ3 Gotenks>Majin Buu=Kid Buu=>Goku>Vegeta>Broly>Saiyaman Gohan=Dabura

Im pretty sure Kid Buu shits on Buuhan.He was the final form for a reason

He isn't. People still thinking Kid Buu who struggled with SSJ3 Goku is stronger than a fusion of Super Buu and Mystic Gohan are heavily misinforming themselves.

A special genkidama was needed for Kid Buu.And again,why did Toriama choice Kid Buu as last form if he wasnt the strongest

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#16  Edited By takenstew22  Moderator
@dertilt said:
@takenstew22 said:
@dertilt said:
@ouroborik said:

Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Ultimate Gohan>Super Buu=SSJ3 Gotenks>Majin Buu=Kid Buu=>Goku>Vegeta>Broly>Saiyaman Gohan=Dabura

Im pretty sure Kid Buu shits on Buuhan.He was the final form for a reason

He isn't. People still thinking Kid Buu who struggled with SSJ3 Goku is stronger than a fusion of Super Buu and Mystic Gohan are heavily misinforming themselves.

A special genkidama was needed for Kid Buu.

And it was also stated Goku in SSJ3 could've won if his stamina wasn't getting heavily depleted by the form.

And again,why did Toriama choice Kid Buu as last form if he wasnt the strongest

Is every opponent Goku faced after Beerus stronger than Beerus? "Villain coming after another therefore stronger" has always been a terrible argument. Mystic Gohan is already stronger than SSJ3 and that same SSJ3 form was doing well against Kid Buu. Buu's regen and SSJ3's stamina drainage is the reason Goku couldn't keep up at the end.

Why do you think Goku decided to fuse instead of facing Buuhan on his own? Hint:

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#17  Edited By Boxdog

Stops at fat buu for obvious reasons

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Broly clears hard

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@dertilt said:
@takenstew22 said:
@dertilt said:
@ouroborik said:

Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Ultimate Gohan>Super Buu=SSJ3 Gotenks>Majin Buu=Kid Buu=>Goku>Vegeta>Broly>Saiyaman Gohan=Dabura

Im pretty sure Kid Buu shits on Buuhan.He was the final form for a reason

He isn't. People still thinking Kid Buu who struggled with SSJ3 Goku is stronger than a fusion of Super Buu and Mystic Gohan are heavily misinforming themselves.

A special genkidama was needed for Kid Buu.

And it was also stated Goku in SSJ3 could've won if his stamina wasn't getting heavily depleted by the form.

And again,why did Toriama choice Kid Buu as last form if he wasnt the strongest

Is every opponent Goku faced after Beerus stronger than Beerus? "Villain coming after another therefore stronger" has always been a terrible argument. Mystic Gohan is already stronger than SSJ3 and that same SSJ3 form was doing well against Kid Buu. Buu's regen and SSJ3's stamina drainage is the reason Goku couldn't keep up at the end.

Why do you think Goku decided to fuse instead of facing Buuhan on his own? Hint:

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Ok,you have a point

And yes,the new villains should be stronger as Beerus long time ago.Its just that Toriama retcon the cat ALL THE TIME.Thats the only reason Beerus is still relevant

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Nah

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#21  Edited By takenstew22  Moderator
@dertilt said:

Ok,you have a point

And yes,the new villains should be stronger as Beerus long time ago.Its just that Toriama retcon the cat ALL THE TIME.Thats the only reason Beerus is still relevant

I have a feeling Toriyama likes his cat too much. (Beerus was based off his own cat)

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@dertilt said:
@takenstew22 said:
@dertilt said:
@ouroborik said:

Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Ultimate Gohan>Super Buu=SSJ3 Gotenks>Majin Buu=Kid Buu=>Goku>Vegeta>Broly>Saiyaman Gohan=Dabura

Im pretty sure Kid Buu shits on Buuhan.He was the final form for a reason

He isn't. People still thinking Kid Buu who struggled with SSJ3 Goku is stronger than a fusion of Super Buu and Mystic Gohan are heavily misinforming themselves.

A special genkidama was needed for Kid Buu.And again,why did Toriama choice Kid Buu as last form if he wasnt the strongest

How could you watch the anime or read the manga and come away thinking Kid Buu is anywhere close to the most powerful?

Kid Buu was the very first form, every time he absorbed someone he technically got stronger. He only wasn't as dangerous in his "Majin Buu" form (the very first form shown in the series) because the will of the Ancient Kai inside him was so strong it contained his evil intent. After Buu divided into Good Buu and Evil Buu and the evil version defeated and ate the good one, he gained access to all the absorbed power without any of the moral restraint (forming Super Buu). From that point on every extra absorption was more powerful than the previous one, culminating in Buuhan.

Gohan was the most powerful non-fused individual at the end of the Buu Saga, so Kid Buu+Gohan (plus all the other characters absorbed up to that point) is without a doubt more powerful than plain Buu. That's why Fusion was so essential, no one could have defeated Buu with all the absorptions stacked.

Goku at the end of the Buu Saga simply wasn't the most powerful character anymore, that's why Kid Buu was an worthy final opponent for him. Gohan was way more powerful (stomped Super Buu without any trouble) but he was killed when the Earth blew up while he was unconscious.

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No. He probably stops at Dabura (Spit ending is funny and realistic Broly tanked everything). He definitely stops at Majin Buu (candy cause Broly tanks everything). Then Gotenks wins by an even larger margin with SSJ3 by overpowering Broly. Super Buu can't lose the fight. It'd be pretty much impossible. Candy or absorption or just trashing him. Take your pick.

Then you still have characters like Super Buu Gotenks absorbed and Mystic Gohan. Then Vegito, the strongest guy in Z. Definitely not clearing.

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If he's cocky, I can see Dabura can turn him into stone; otherwise he stop at SSJ3 Goku.

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#25  Edited By Raziel2014

depends on how you view Brolly power

we know for a fact how strong Fat Buu was due to Babidi directly showing and telling us how much Energy Gohan in SSj2 provided, Fat Buu is roughly 2.25x-2.5x stronger than SSj2 at Gohan level and since Gohan was weaker than when he fought Cell and Weaker than SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta we can roughly assume that Fat Buu has 2-2.25x the PL of Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku so ultimately far weaker than SSj3.

we know that in 8th Movie Goku and Gohan are in MSSJ since is post Hyperbolic Tme Chamber and they were getting dogwalked it took the combined Ki of Goku, GOhan, Vegeta, Trunks, Piccolo to beat him so roughly 2 MSSJ, 2 Ascended SSJ and 1 SSJ

2 MSSJ = SSJ2 , 2 Ascended SSJ + 1 SSJ/Piccolo is roughly on par with 1 MSSJ = a fighter that is only 50% stronger than the average SSJ2 manage to 1 shot Brolly

so if we take all the characters in the Buu arc he stops at Fat Buu with certainty.

another hard stop is Majin Vegeta and SSj2 Goku per calculation done however this is not certain at worse is a hard fight

Hope this answers the question, if you want to see the scans for Majin Buu PL read the manga is in chapter 255, another easier way to look at it is just assuming that Majin Buu is a saiyan like GOku/Vegeta with a x200 multiplier instead of x100/SSj2, the main issue with Majin Buu is that his Regeneration powers make it hard for someone of his own PL to actually beat him which is why he can fight stronger enemies like SSJ3 Goku.

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If he's cocky, I can see Dabura can turn him into stone; otherwise he stop at SSJ3 Goku.

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#27  Edited By DerTilt
@ouroborik said:
@dertilt said:
@takenstew22 said:
@dertilt said:
@ouroborik said:

Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Ultimate Gohan>Super Buu=SSJ3 Gotenks>Majin Buu=Kid Buu=>Goku>Vegeta>Broly>Saiyaman Gohan=Dabura

Im pretty sure Kid Buu shits on Buuhan.He was the final form for a reason

He isn't. People still thinking Kid Buu who struggled with SSJ3 Goku is stronger than a fusion of Super Buu and Mystic Gohan are heavily misinforming themselves.

A special genkidama was needed for Kid Buu.And again,why did Toriama choice Kid Buu as last form if he wasnt the strongest

How could you watch the anime or read the manga and come away thinking Kid Buu is anywhere close to the most powerful?

Kid Buu was the very first form, every time he absorbed someone he technically got stronger. He only wasn't as dangerous in his "Majin Buu" form (the very first form shown in the series) because the will of the Ancient Kai inside him was so strong it contained his evil intent. After Buu divided into Good Buu and Evil Buu and the evil version defeated and ate the good one, he gained access to all the absorbed power without any of the moral restraint (forming Super Buu). From that point on every extra absorption was more powerful than the previous one, culminating in Buuhan.

Gohan was the most powerful non-fused individual at the end of the Buu Saga, so Kid Buu+Gohan (plus all the other characters absorbed up to that point) is without a doubt more powerful than plain Buu. That's why Fusion was so essential, no one could have defeated Buu with all the absorptions stacked.

Goku at the end of the Buu Saga simply wasn't the most powerful character anymore, that's why Kid Buu was an worthy final opponent for him. Gohan was way more powerful (stomped Super Buu without any trouble) but he was killed when the Earth blew up while he was unconscious.

In what world was Gohan the strongest Sayajin?At the end of Cell Arc?Yes

End of Buu Arc?Doubt it

Current one?Hell no

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@dertilt: Mystic Gohan was the strongest non-fused Saiyan at the end of the Buu Arc

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Dude got beat by an ssj.

He stops at Dabura. Or stagnant Gohan, if that's an option.

A Cell Jr would give him the fight of his life, given they were casually slapping ssjs as one-sidedly as Broly was.

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It can be argued. Movie Universe character are much stronger then the canon versions and have better feats.

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Broly has better feats than canon DBZ

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Broly has better feats than canon DBZ

DBS ver. Does but OP asks for Z Broly.

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@dertilt said:
@ouroborik said:
@dertilt said:
@takenstew22 said:
@dertilt said:
@ouroborik said:

Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Ultimate Gohan>Super Buu=SSJ3 Gotenks>Majin Buu=Kid Buu=>Goku>Vegeta>Broly>Saiyaman Gohan=Dabura

Im pretty sure Kid Buu shits on Buuhan.He was the final form for a reason

He isn't. People still thinking Kid Buu who struggled with SSJ3 Goku is stronger than a fusion of Super Buu and Mystic Gohan are heavily misinforming themselves.

A special genkidama was needed for Kid Buu.And again,why did Toriama choice Kid Buu as last form if he wasnt the strongest

How could you watch the anime or read the manga and come away thinking Kid Buu is anywhere close to the most powerful?

Kid Buu was the very first form, every time he absorbed someone he technically got stronger. He only wasn't as dangerous in his "Majin Buu" form (the very first form shown in the series) because the will of the Ancient Kai inside him was so strong it contained his evil intent. After Buu divided into Good Buu and Evil Buu and the evil version defeated and ate the good one, he gained access to all the absorbed power without any of the moral restraint (forming Super Buu). From that point on every extra absorption was more powerful than the previous one, culminating in Buuhan.

Gohan was the most powerful non-fused individual at the end of the Buu Saga, so Kid Buu+Gohan (plus all the other characters absorbed up to that point) is without a doubt more powerful than plain Buu. That's why Fusion was so essential, no one could have defeated Buu with all the absorptions stacked.

Goku at the end of the Buu Saga simply wasn't the most powerful character anymore, that's why Kid Buu was an worthy final opponent for him. Gohan was way more powerful (stomped Super Buu without any trouble) but he was killed when the Earth blew up while he was unconscious.

In what world was Gohan the strongest Sayajin?At the end of Cell Arc?Yes

End of Buu Arc?Doubt it

Current one?Hell no

End of Buu Arc Gohan was 100% the most powerful individual character. He stomped Super Buu, who was literally an amped version of Kid Buu with a more focused mindset.

No individual character could beat even Kid Buu, except maybe Goku (and that's a big maybe considering he needed the Spirit Bomb to win in the end) so Gohan stomping Super Buu should clear any doubts about his power.

Goku became more powerful again by training but Gohan was undeniably the strongest at the end of the Buu Saga.

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Destroyed….he gets destroyed

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People need to stop using different versions of characters as an argument to elevate/diminish another character.

OT: Anime or manga Buu arc?

Anime-wise he's comfortably above the SSJ 2 tier, and I would say he's above Fat Buu as well. From there, it gets complicated for him.

Manga-wise the only ones who pose a threat are Buuhan and Vegito.

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@takenstew22: It isn't overtime. It was done instantly. And koyama also stated that Broly can destroy galaxies.

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@takenstew22: It isn't overtime. It was done instantly. And koyama also stated that Broly can destroy galaxies.

Well either way galaxy level is high tier DBZ.

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Movie verse characters are far stronger than their canon counterparts. Broly is easily galaxy ro multi galaxy level with how you consider the cosmology. Goku should be universe level as he was able to shake the afterlife and hell and even light it up by just transforming into ssj3.

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So movie 8 broly? Dude, he doesn't even clear Dabura. Dude isn't even ssj2 lvl. He's below perfect cell