Win by any and all means. The planet cannot be destroyed. The X-Men have 24 hours to prepare a strategy, and full knowledge of Doomsday.
X-Men vs H/P Doomsday
@CitizenBane said:
@comicdude23 said:
Doomsday, by vicious slaughter.
Even with 24 hours of prep?
Yeah, he's just too much for them.
@CitizenBane said:
@comicdude23 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@comicdude23 said:
Doomsday, by vicious slaughter.
Even with 24 hours of prep?
Yeah, he's just too much for them.
I don't think it's as simple as that. They have Beast, Danger, Forge and 24 hours of prep.
Yes, but he's much stronger, faster and more durable, he'd evolve. He has crazy-stupid feats on a consistent level too.
Since this is bloodlusted probably boils down to Colossus vs doomsday. Don't know how much fuel Cyttorak needs to pump into Colossus for him to pull this off. Long and bloody fight though....
Actually isnt Warlock full potential a plant buster as well? I think his dad literally eats stars for breakfast...He is just less aggressive that why his dad magus wants to kill him.
So its Warlock and Colossus vs doomsday in the end..not sure who would win
As already mentioned by CitizenBane Forge with 24 hrs prep could be the deciding factor here for the X-Men getting a win..
But they will still have to deal with Doomdays speed..
dd cant kill colossus here,so he could at least hold him off,weather the team can "kill" dd im not so sure even with prep time,50/50 chance imo.
There is no way for this Team to win the Massive strength and power is still too much. Physically i dont see how they are going to hurt him. This Doomsday even Beat an Enhanced superman even broke his Arm. Speed is a factor here plus evolving. Energy based characters dont stand a chance. Mind Raping wont work. I dont see any body physically strong enough to even Phase him. This doomsday is way to strong even with Prep they would lose. Oh the doomsday in the Pic up top is not HP doomsday . The doomsday posted by the Op in the pictures is a weaker doomsday and they still cant take that Doomsday.
But he can BFR Colossus as that rule isnt mentioned in this scenario..dd cant kill colossus here,so he could at least hold him off,weather the team can "kill" dd im not so sure even with prep time,50/50 chance imo.
This is going to sound like the most unintelligent question, but I'll go for it anyway.
Wouldn't a full-powered Magneto or Havok cause damage?
Colossus may be able to hold his own. I don't know what the rest of the team is going to do against that overpowered freak.
@RainEffect said:
This is going to sound like the most unintelligent question, but I'll go for it anyway. Wouldn't a full-powered Magneto or Havok cause damage?
Not even close. Doomsday Survived Thousands of nukes explosion didnt even phase him. This doomsday again evolves and adapts right away what works isnt going to work for long well he adapts in seconds . converts energies fast strong and has the ability to over come various energies to his will.@TheMightyAvenger said:
Colossus may be able to hold his own. I don't know what the rest of the team is going to do against that overpowered freak.
Colossus would get the beating of a life time. Even with Cytorak powering him up. Doomsday would be pounding and evolving. This doomsday is the cheat code and answer against regular heroes.
@CitizenBane said:
No one has said "Storm solos" so far. This is a good sign.
LOL storm would be dead at the wave of a hand.
Team....
Elixir should be able to kill Doomsday if he's given a decent chance to put his hands on him........and Kitty should be able to phase his brain out of his skull.....
@termiteone4ever: How is Doomsday going to hurt Colossus when he supposedly has the powers of Classic Juggernaut. Colossus may not be able to defeat him but he won't be hurt thank to his force field. And what would DD evolve from ?
could be just a case of a bear hug & a huge leap into orbit :-)@termiteone4ever: How is Doomsday going to hurt Colossus when he supposedly has the powers of Classic Juggernaut. Colossus may not be able to defeat him but he won't be hurt thank to his force field. And what would DD evolve from ?
@Chaos Prime said:
@TheMightyAvenger said:could be just a case of a bear hug & a huge leap into orbit :-)@termiteone4ever: How is Doomsday going to hurt Colossus when he supposedly has the powers of Classic Juggernaut. Colossus may not be able to defeat him but he won't be hurt thank to his force field. And what would DD evolve from ?
He'll lose by BFR then, since H/P Doomsday can't fly.
Not if he throws Colossus just before he hits the point of no return..@Chaos Prime said:
@TheMightyAvenger said:could be just a case of a bear hug & a huge leap into orbit :-)@termiteone4ever: How is Doomsday going to hurt Colossus when he supposedly has the powers of Classic Juggernaut. Colossus may not be able to defeat him but he won't be hurt thank to his force field. And what would DD evolve from ?
He'll lose by BFR then, since H/P Doomsday can't fly.
if the hulk can do it to classic Jugs imo DD can do it to current Colossus..@Chaos Prime: Current Colossus isn't weak, Doomsday would find it very hard to do that to him.
@Chaos Prime: If you're talking about the War Hulk instance, then you must know that Hulk was amped by Celestia tech.
no way, way back..Hulk threw Juggs over a mountain..Will try & find the scans :-)@Chaos Prime: If you're talking about the War Hulk instance, then you must know that Hulk was amped by Celestia tech.
@TheMightyAvenger said:
@termiteone4ever: How is Doomsday going to hurt Colossus when he supposedly has the powers of Classic Juggernaut. Colossus may not be able to defeat him but he won't be hurt thank to his force field. And what would DD evolve from ?
Doomsday powers are not fair i know but he always finds away to evolve or break through that's how he is created. Even worse his force field have to some sort of energy no matter the Kind he will eventually break it down no matter how long.
@CitizenBane said:
@Chaos Prime said:
@TheMightyAvenger said:could be just a case of a bear hug & a huge leap into orbit :-)@termiteone4ever: How is Doomsday going to hurt Colossus when he supposedly has the powers of Classic Juggernaut. Colossus may not be able to defeat him but he won't be hurt thank to his force field. And what would DD evolve from ?
He'll lose by BFR then, since H/P Doomsday can't fly.
Sad to say Doomsday isn't Easily BFR His reaction time and Speed Proves this even superman seems to have hard time doing this.
Sooner or later Colossusnaut will win.
And without him - Doomsday can stalemate at best. He won't kill Iceman.
@czarny_samael666 said:
Sooner or later Colossusnaut will win. And without him - Doomsday can stalemate at best. He won't kill Iceman.
This is where the debate would get Extensive . There is no way Iceman can win. He just evolves to defeat them. He can easily evolve and convert or absorb energies / Iceman nor Colossusnaut will not stand a chance. Speed alone would have Colossusnaut in a world of beat down he better be regenerating for while while Doomsday Evolve past him. Iceman is one of the weakest link here. He cant even hurt nor stop doomsday. He will easily be taken out. normal heroes dont stand much a chance fighting Doomsday physically. Again they stand no chance. We even saw Doomsday Rip Plastic man knowing plastic man can stretch even Took out the Martian. There is nothing the Team can do to defeat this doomsday whats worse the more power and energies you come with the higher your chances of losing becomes.
He won't evolve to defeat them, he will evolve to survive their assaults. This isn't the same. And I've didn't say that Iceman can win it. I've said that he will get stalemate in this battle.@czarny_samael666 said:
Sooner or later Colossusnaut will win. And without him - Doomsday can stalemate at best. He won't kill Iceman.This is where the debate would get Extensive . There is no way Iceman can win. He just evolves to defeat them. He can easily evolve and convert or absorb energies / Iceman nor Colossusnaut will not stand a chance. Speed alone would have Colossusnaut in a world of beat down he better be regenerating for while while Doomsday Evolve past him. Iceman is one of the weakest link here. He cant even hurt nor stop doomsday. He will easily be taken out. normal heroes dont stand much a chance fighting Doomsday physically. Again they stand no chance. We even saw Doomsday Rip Plastic man knowing plastic man can stretch even Took out the Martian. There is nothing the Team can do to defeat this doomsday whats worse the more power and energies you come with the higher your chances of losing becomes.
Doomsday is strong and durable, but he can't win with Cyttorak's force field.
He evolved a way to destroy the Radiant, who he previously couldn't touch.
But he's not immune to mind control or transmutation yet.
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: Actually he is, Waverider tried to overload his nervous system but Doomsday repelled him. And a weaker version of Doomsday kicked the Martian Manhunter out of his head, which is a little PIS-ey. But in the Death of Superman, a couple of telepaths noted that there was no real way to mind control Doomsday, since he had only blind rage and nothing that could be considered sentient thought.
@CitizenBane: My bad. Anything under Brainiac or Manchester Black level (unless you mean H/P as in the Doomsday Wars and OWAW and Apokolips Now didn't exist and therefore aren't admissible here).
BTW, he's solar powered so IDK if Havok would hurt him, and it's implied he's solid mass with minimal fluids so IDK if he has a brain to phase out.
@czarny_samael666 said:
@termiteone4ever said:He won't evolve to defeat them, he will evolve to survive their assaults. This isn't the same. And I've didn't say that Iceman can win it. I've said that he will get stalemate in this battle. Doomsday is strong and durable, but he can't win with Cyttorak's force field.@czarny_samael666 said:
Sooner or later Colossusnaut will win. And without him - Doomsday can stalemate at best. He won't kill Iceman.This is where the debate would get Extensive . There is no way Iceman can win. He just evolves to defeat them. He can easily evolve and convert or absorb energies / Iceman nor Colossusnaut will not stand a chance. Speed alone would have Colossusnaut in a world of beat down he better be regenerating for while while Doomsday Evolve past him. Iceman is one of the weakest link here. He cant even hurt nor stop doomsday. He will easily be taken out. normal heroes dont stand much a chance fighting Doomsday physically. Again they stand no chance. We even saw Doomsday Rip Plastic man knowing plastic man can stretch even Took out the Martian. There is nothing the Team can do to defeat this doomsday whats worse the more power and energies you come with the higher your chances of losing becomes.
Again what is a Force field Going to do ? Again he will get through it that just how the character is build. Just like the martian he will get around it. Thats just his power. The forceShield wont be enough .Iceman is none factor here. There is no stalemating here.
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:
He evolved a way to destroy the Radiant, who he previously couldn't touch.
But he's not immune to mind control or transmutation yet.
Doomsday and transmutation doesnt seem to work. Mind control John already tried. If doomsday is in an unconscious state his mind can be entered but once he is awake he can will reject the Host easily.
Doomsday is successfully transmuted by the Entropy Aegis in Apokolips Now.
Granted, that may break the spirit of H/P Doomsday, and the Entropy Aegis is really powerful, but to the best of my knowledge, Doomsday has never had transmutation tried on him other than that.
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:
Doomsday is successfully transmuted by the Entropy Aegis in Apokolips Now.
Granted, that may break the spirit of H/P Doomsday, and the Entropy Aegis is really powerful, but to the best of my knowledge, Doomsday has never had transmutation tried on him other than that.
Apokolips Now also saw Superman repel the Omega Beams with his heat vision. It's credibility is questionable.
No, no and no. :D@czarny_samael666 said:
@termiteone4ever said:He won't evolve to defeat them, he will evolve to survive their assaults. This isn't the same. And I've didn't say that Iceman can win it. I've said that he will get stalemate in this battle. Doomsday is strong and durable, but he can't win with Cyttorak's force field.@czarny_samael666 said:
Sooner or later Colossusnaut will win. And without him - Doomsday can stalemate at best. He won't kill Iceman.This is where the debate would get Extensive . There is no way Iceman can win. He just evolves to defeat them. He can easily evolve and convert or absorb energies / Iceman nor Colossusnaut will not stand a chance. Speed alone would have Colossusnaut in a world of beat down he better be regenerating for while while Doomsday Evolve past him. Iceman is one of the weakest link here. He cant even hurt nor stop doomsday. He will easily be taken out. normal heroes dont stand much a chance fighting Doomsday physically. Again they stand no chance. We even saw Doomsday Rip Plastic man knowing plastic man can stretch even Took out the Martian. There is nothing the Team can do to defeat this doomsday whats worse the more power and energies you come with the higher your chances of losing becomes.
Again what is a Force field Going to do ? Again he will get through it that just how the character is build. Just like the martian he will get around it. Thats just his power. The forceShield wont be enough .Iceman is none factor here. There is no stalemating here.
1.Doomsday won't get past this force field no matter what. There is no chance for that. Nothing can kill The Juggernaut. That is the point of his power. Doomsday can't evolve to just be stronger. He will be KOd at some point. As his copies in last Superman's comics were, as he was and as he was defeated in the past. He can evolve to specific powers, like matter mainpulation, or energy projection. But he will still die at first time. And he isn't immune to physical damage.
2.Since Juggy can't be defeated and Doomsday can - winner is obvious.
3.Iceman won't be defeated either. Doomsday can crush him, burn him etc. Iceman still will be alive.
@CitizenBane: How I wish I could toss that issue of pure garbage into non-canon land.
@czarny_samael666: I'm not necessarily saying Doomsday wins, but he does evolve to get stronger - not just defensively. He was gaining strength as far back as DoS, and he evolved a way to kill a being made of pure energy. He also evolved poison in his claws, a power he didn't have back in DoS.
Not to mention he wrecked Darkseid's friend Mayhem and mugged a Green Lantern ring and took on multiple Lanterns with it and it took a Guardian's sacrifice to stop him - back when he was weaker.
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