X-Men(FOX) Vs Avengers(MCU)

FOX X-Men:

Wolvie

Cyclops

Storm

Jean Grey(X3 Phoenix)

Iceman

Rogue

Mystique

Quicksilver

Deadpool

Colossus

Negasonic Teenage War-Head

Apocolypse

MCU Avengers:

Cap

Iron Man(Mark 7)

War Machine

Hulk

Thor

Dr. Strange w/ Eye of Agamotto

Vision

The Ancient One

Mordu

Dormammu Amped Kaecilius

Scarlet Witch

Quicksilver

Aether Malekeith

Morals Are Off,

Who Wins ?

@asgardianbrony: @ldm: @wolfrazer: @thunderprince: @anthp2000: @mbcb2001:

Team 2 destroys

Massive stomp in favor of the X-men. Pheonix Jean mind wipes or reduces them to atoms while Quicksilver wholesale blitzes the vast majority.

@gxrevs06:

Phoenix from X-Men The Last Stand(2006)

Yes, I know.

Could go either way.

@gxrevs06: oh yeah speed blitz is bad.... but the time gem literally stops time.. two infinity gems stomp.

Actually a mismatch in xmens favor

@dr_deplorable: in this match up, the gems are practically useless. The people who have them are slow af. Hell deadpool could kill all the sorcerers himself. Its a mismatch

@mbcb2001:

Which is completely moot since he blitzes Strange before he can use it. Heck, Corcelius was able to cover 50 or so meters before the gem fully activated. Jean takes care of the rest with TP assaults and molecular disintegration

Malekieth could take down quite a few of the x-men on his own. Is he allowed to be in character as in bringing in the dark elves for fodder? Jean will be trouble no question but Dormammu should equal her out. Apocalypse is tough but he should fall to Dr strange and the eye maybe with Scarlett witch's help. Quicksilver and quicksilver run around each other for a while. Thor should easily take what's left after Deadpool gets stuck in a mirror where strange puts him for a bfr. The rest really aren't that great Logan may take iron man but he falls soon afterwards. MCU for the win decent battle though

x-men

@destinyman75: lol....ur reaching

@watcher5000 said:

@gxrevs06 said:

Massive stomp in favor of the X-men. Pheonix Jean mind wipes or reduces them to atoms. Quicksilver wholesale blitzes everyone bar a few.

Xavier & Apocalypse can mindcontrol anyone on earth. They did disarm all the nuclear missiles on earth in a few seconds. Oh there is no Charles, but they win anyway. Can Jean do what the professor did?

@DammeFavour: How so? Cyclops, storm, Iceman rogue mystique, warhead are petty much fodder. ( not weak mind you but against MCU yeah there not lasting long). Iron man and war machine alone could give them hell. Granted Apocalypse, and of course Phoenix are the MVPs but I already addressed them so? And the gem isn't close to useless. Vision can also go intangible how is that not a threat to anyone? It also gives the speedster much trouble.

@destinyman75: considering u think mcu qs is any threat to fox qs, completely discredits ur opinion. U think ice man, storm, mystique and NTW are fodder really? This is a mismatch of epic proportions because in actuality it would go the other way, fox qs kills the glass canons which phoenix destroys the rest. Fight probably lasts at most a couple minutes. Ur fan-fic only works if the fox team just stands there and don't fight

MCU would annihilate. Was closed to saying this is spite in favor of Xmen but I kept reading down the line this is a mismatch.

No, the X-Men win. Jean is the biggest factor. The gems aren't doing anything if they are obliterated with a single thought. And she is faster in thought than they can in action. Not to mention she is a telepath. Before oh say anything, yes she has used her telepathy in a fight before and has mindrapes others before.

Apocalypse is another factor by virtue of his molecular manipulation and shields to go along with his absurd strength and healing factor on par with Wolverine.

Quicksilver moves faster than anyone on MCU team.

X-Men win, no contest.

@DammeFavour: lol I.was thinking the same thing about your fan fic ..Irony

Never said MCU quick silver was a threat to fox quicksilver I said they would run around a bit keeping them out for a bit, big difference there. And as I already stated Phoenix is without a doubt the biggest threat I did say that already but she has to face Dormammu that will take all she has even if she wins ,so there won't be auto tp everyone garbage argument from that. If so Dormammu could auto kill everyone with his hax neither of those are going to happen. Again Dormammu will keep Jean out for a time at least. And speaking of glass cannon, storm , Ice man, rougue , cyclops, and tin man are far more glass cannon non of them did anything that would put them above war machine or Iron man these "versions" are incredibly weak they didn't do much of anything. Again Iron man and war machine are enough to take them down. Mystique the only way she last a second is if she's pretending to be somebody on the MCU team and that will only keep her alive she can't hurt anyone from the MCU team. She's incredibly cool (at least Rebecca Romijin version)/ as the newer one was horrible. Logan and cap will have a good battle probably the best battle of the bunch. Apocalypse Thor could solo since he couldn't take quicksilver hits that well, mjolnir should smite hard. For that matter vision can Phase anyone on the x-men even jean if she's too locked up with Dormammu then she sleeps. Hulk can help Thor play keep away with Thor bashing Apocalypse back and forth its not hard to see

@chris-sama: I agree while Jean/Phoenix Logan and Apocalypse are tough foes the rest didn't really do that much cool as they are, between Thor strange hulk iron man vision who can phase, malekeith Dormammu I think there is too much hax for the MCU side

@destinyman75: nd I'm telling u mcu qs can't keep fox qs occupied, the difference in speed is too great. MCU qs is around mach 2 at most, he's going to be fodder for fox qs.

@DammeFavour: Well I do agree fox version obviously going to win out but figure he can last a few minutes before going down. Never said otherwise...

But it becomes mute since strange has time stop with the eye

X-Men

@destinyman75: again no he cant last a second with fox qs, dude was able to clear an exploding mansion. The eye becomes irrelevant when qs can just just snatch it from him or jean can tp or just tk it from him. Strange is as irrelevant as cap in this fight. In this scenario qs,strange, kaecillius, ancient one, mordo and even malekith are fodder

Team X-Men.

@DammeFavour: Odds aren't likely to have that happen. They would have to know about the eye no prep here so not likely. Jean is going to have to instantly fight off Dormammu or die off the bat. This whole auto tp never works any better then Dormammu instantly kills before they can do anything again those are arguments that simply don't work. Degrades the whole thread. So Jean will have to instantly fight the big bad Dormammu she's occupied. Which means an android mind can come in and phase her out. As for the quicksilver auto speed win that's just as degrading as the auto tp and doesn't work that way. Quicksilver obviously will chase after the other strange can simply stop time here period. Or strange can place quicksilver in that mirror realm where he can run forever if he wants too. Too many ways for the x-men to loose. Statisically speaking MCU has a better chance at more wins. Strange and cap are far more relevant then 90% of the x-men team. Those statements don't speak well for you. But eh

@destinyman75: dormammu isn't here!!!! Look at it objectively, a speedster that can move at over mach 100, a telepath and telekinetic that can disintegrate whole cities, a weather manipulator on a scale much more powerful than thor, ice man that can freeze the opposition and a human bomb vs mcu. Seriously mate, it's a mismatch. Mach 100 vs mach 2 is not a contest understand? Mcu qs is fodder to fox qs as are the rest of the humans on his team plus malekith that can be impaled by normal metal

@justiceleague1:

People who think this is a spite in favor of X-Men haven't really thought it through. Yes, DS has the time gem; but he may not even be the third most problematic person in this matchup.

I think the second most problematic person is the Hulk in hulk form has almost unlimited durability; more so than even colossus. It will rely on X-Mens TP heroes to get him to turn it off. But if SW/etc can keep them occupied (with a rage spell, like in AoU), where they have to prevent their team from going psyco, it may delay them enough where Hulk can really get some good hits in.

But I don't even think TP really takes care of hulk. He still can't die. Heck, he tries to commit suicide in Bruce form - and spits bullets back out. So, TP has to keep focus on keeping him out, and perhaps imprison him somehow. But they can't ever 'solve' the problem I don't think. And Quicksilver can't really take him out either.

But that is ignoring the #1 problem here... Vision. How do they take him out? He is really cybernetic, and I don't think TP will really work on him. He is intangible, wicked strong, can shoot lasers, and practically solo everyone on the X-Men team. At least, in movie forms. QS can't blitz his intangibility. And if he starts off flying, he won't even get a chance to undo it (and he is smart enough as a cyberintelligence to make those smart plays). As a computer, he can react internally and activate his intangibility also, very quickly. Perhaps even without flying first, Fox QS still can't blitz him before he becomes intangible.

Who else can hurt him? I don't even think Phoenix has shown much here. She hit the matter in the area in her feat at the dam. But that probably won't hit him out of phase. And all he needs to do is fly close enough to where wolverine was, and tangible put his hand in her heart, phase out. Death.

Seriously, who is the answer to vision? He by himself, (with a lot of time), can take the entire X-Men here.

X3 Phoenix goes batshit and destroys the entire friggen' planet. NOBODY wins.

@ambaryerno:

How? It took her a lot of time to do as much damage as she did in X3, in the Golden Gate Bridge area. She can't touch vision, that we know of from her movie feats. And Vision could use that, move in close, and one shot her without anyone being able to stop him. Far before she destroys much of anything.

Vision solos, as he is without a good film X-Men answer in this matchup, he is an untouchable god to them. The telepaths wouldn't do anything to his machine brain... The normal fighters can't really touch him, or defend against him. He is a computer who thinks at nanosecond speeds, inputs, etc - and can turn intangible before QS can blitz him. At best, you have deadpool/wolverine healing from his attacks. But he then just flies them to the sun.

GG.

@delta16807: vision has an organic brain, wanda could read it

@DammeFavour:

And she is not a normal TP either, and her magical powers don't work the way other TPs do.

Also, he is powered by the mind-stone, the all-powerful TP sort of gem. I remember her managing to see a bit of Ultron's plan, who wasn't powered by the mind-stone. Trying to remember where in the movie she read Vision's mind, can you refresh my memory on where that happened?

@delta16807: when she saw ultron's plan she was reading vision's brain. Her tp is different as it requires contact, that's all

@DammeFavour:

That was from a body not powered by the mindstone. Also: that Was Ultron, as far as we are concerned. At that point in time, Vision was still the AI of Stark, in the internet. But that was still just the BASIS, of a more permanent, more unique android life later by the mindstone.

And http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Scarlet_Witch

Seems to confirm it was Ultron, not Vision that she saw the mind of. And while I think that is enough to prove the point, I also think that doesn't even mean that Jean for instance can TP Ultron either. As Scarlet Witch's is very different from hers. And as of yet, she didn't even control Ultron, she simply got her magical glimpse of the plan.

But mind-stone android? Yea, I don't think TP will be much of a factor.

Dormammu and Jean Grey cancel out. I'm giving some space and respect to featless giants like Dormammu, Odin and Thanos. Otherwise, one could say Wolverine or Hulk could beat them because of low to no showings compared to tons of feat (some even pretty OP). So with that, I can't believe that Jean Grey just obliterates Dorm like he's nothing.

With that said, Marvel wins eventually. QS has the speed, but not the strength; he'll eventually tire and then Hulk swishes him.

Iron Man and War Machine can down Cyke, Storm, Deadpool, Nega. Rogue and Mystique. Without PIS, their bullets lock in and disintegrate them. They're faster, more durable and have better feats them them all.

The magicians and Vision can down Apoc. Heck, Vision with phasing will already be something Apoc hasn't seen.

Wolverine and Cap can arm wrestle until others are done.

Thor one shots Bobby with Mjolnir and the brawls with Colossus.

Now you have a somewhat fatigued Thor, low ammo WM and IM, 50% fatigued Cap, whatever Hulk is doing, and whatever the magicians have done/are doing to Apoc vs the aforementioned Apocalypse....and 50% fatigued Wolverine.

The Marvel team should win unless people solely go on Jean Grey and say that's enough to overlook what Doemammu probably has up his sleeves in terms of power.

@delta16807: first wanda isn't magical at all. Its the same body and it was already powered before wanda looked in. So vision isn't immune to telepathy. We already know wanda can't read ultron's robot body, remember the church scene? So it was the android body she read as ultron was uploading his consciousness and the doctor even remarked it was an organic brain. The glimpse wanda saw was when she touched the casing, her telepathy requires contact. Stop reaching

Dormammu is not here! Read the OP

I was about to say, Kaecillius is buffed by Dormammu, but Dormammu HIMSELF is not on the roster.

@DammeFavour: Dormammu is there not in person but his presence will be felt. Also You've lost some credibility with that a absurd comment storm above Thor just lol no more lol my stomach hurts storm is one shot by half the marvel team. So a re a few others. Rely on jean she's all you got as a chance

Also, I think Apocalypse's impact is being grossly overlooked. Not only does he have his own considerable power set (healing factor, matter manipulation, etc.), but there's also the fact he can boost the powers of anyone on his team. Remember, he was able to buff Magneto to the point where he could manipulate Earth's ENTIRE MAGNETIC FIELD. Imagine what an Apocalypse-boosted Phoenix could do.

Quicksilver will blitz every human. Jean obliterates the rest while apocalypse shields them from retaliation. I don't see how most of the fodder even matters. This comes down to can quicksilver take out the mcu sorceress before they act, he can, can jean beat Malekith with the ether, she can, can thor or hulk breach apocalypse shields, no they can't, it took planetary level Magento to do that, nobody on the mcu has shown that level of power.

@destinyman75: read.....WEATHER MANIPULATION. Storm has a more powerful weather manipulation power than thor. And deadpool kills all the sorcerers unless u can prove they're bullet timers. U keep acting like qs can't solo the human team including qs in less than a second, and u actually think mcu qs could compete with him. Ur just making stupid claims but it seems it's a regular thing for u

I'm curious why Magneto was left off the X-Men roster. Clearly it's not limited to just members of the X-Men themselves, because Apocalypse is on the team. For one it gives the MCU an additional player (13 MCU vs. 12 X-Men).

@ambaryerno: because magneto would solo

The problem here is that we haven't seen the full potential of the Avengers yet. Wanda's full potential, Dr Strange's full potential, Thor will most likely have WAY better feats in Ragnarok along with other characters. As of right now it looks like X-Men are prevailing at this point but there is much to be decided once the other films are put forward.

@DammeFavour: I did READ weather manipulation storm may use it more often because without it she is not much at all, but no way in anyway is she more powerful then THOR god of thunder I know your a hater and all but geez. And stupid claims? Not so much as you I think goes both ways. But let's agree to disagree and not derail the thread I'm done with you in this one good bye

X-Men wins, no debate