Eiling no sold everything that the JLA threw at him. Not just tanked it, straight up no sold it. The only reason he lost was because of BFR.
Morals off but in character the bricks should take it since BRB and Thor will absolutely try to brawl and they will absolutely be manhandled in melee combat by Eiling and Hulk.
If i am not mistaken, shouldn't Eilling solo? Probably solo all 3 of them? Maybe i am wrong but didn't he beat the entire JL by himself?
He didn't beat them, he just fought them all and they couldn't down him. Eiling wouldn't solo, he's too durable but not strong enough to easily knock them out, eventually they'd find a way. With Hulk here however team 1 wins very comfortably.
I literally fail to see how the hammer bros win when either WWH or Eiling can beat them 1v1, so WWH is a step above Thor seeing as regular Hulk is already roughly 60/40 towards Hulk imo and Eiling is someone who fought and held his own against the entire Justice League... I mean come on lol.
Eiling didn't score any knockouts, but he could not be put down in that arc. Astroforce? Nope. Heatvisioned limbs and sonic boom doubleteams? Regenerated in panels. The tactical nuke bullet designed to kill Superman? Genetically enhanced salamander tissue.
Morals off team 2 will speed blitz. Thor can one shot Hulk with no morals.
Thor is gonna speedblitz? Hahahahahaha.
Forget that, Hulk has way more chance blitzing Thor then the other way around.
You mean like all those other times where he was morals off and not holding back screaming at Hulk "now you die!" or "KILL YOU" and he failed to one-shot Hulk? Or 2-shot him? Or 3-shot him? Or anything?
For those otherwise unfamiliar, statement-wise Eiling/The Shaggy Man has been referred to in The Justice League's computer-logs as a "planetary-level threat", it's unofficial motto is being referred to as "Immortal. Invulnerable. Unbeatable.", stated himself he "feels no pain", chosen by Eiling to transfer his mind into due to The Shaggy Man being "The one enemy The JLA could never actually defeat", and Batman later re-enforcing the statement by saying "He's right: The Shaggy Man was unbeatable. The League was only ever able to restrain him at best.". Anyway, this basically gives the gist of where General Eiling sits power-wise.
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Get's hit point-blank by Warmaker One's tactical-atomic bullet, specifically designed to defeat Superman, or in Warmaker's own words states it as "...Clean microscopic. It'll devestate a few-feet radius without leaving radiation. Our guys reckon this one'll even take you down. Treats it as absolutely nothing(while elaborating on his healing factor).
Superman man and Steel decide to fully unleash offensively against him, yet he still manages to catch Superman by surprise with his speed, then later stomps him. Literally.
And basically all Orion; The Dog of War and Scion of Darkseid manages to contribute to the fight is get the Astro Force 100% no-sold, used as a mini club to bitch-slap Superman. Again. Eiling is finally defeated by being BFR'd(which is pretty much the only way The League beats him), but not before using Orion's face to press a button. Literally.
For those otherwise unfamiliar, statement-wise Eiling/The Shaggy Man has been referred to in The Justice League's computer-logs as a "planetary-level threat", it's unofficial motto is being referred to as "Immortal. Invulnerable. Unbeatable.", stated himself he "feels no pain", chosen by Eiling to transfer his mind into due to The Shaggy Man being "The one enemy The JLA could never actually defeat, and Batman later re-enforcing the statement by saying "He's right: The Shaggy Man was unbeatable. The League was only ever able to restrain him at best.". Anyway, this basically gives the gist of where General Eiling sits power-wise.
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Get's hit point-blank by Warmaker One's tactical-atomic bullet, specifically designed to defeat Superman, or in Warmaker's own words states it as "...Clean microscopic. It'll devestate a few-feet radius without leaving radiation. Our guys reckon this one'll even take you down. Treats it as absolutely nothing(while elaborating on his healing factor).
Superman man and Steel decide to fully unleash offensively against him, yet he still manages to catch Superman by surprise with his speed, then later stomps him. Literally.
And basically all Orion; The Dog of War and Scion of Darkseid manages to contribute to the fight is get the Astro Force 100% no-sold, used as a mini club to bitch-slap Superman. Again. Eiling is finally defeated by being BFR'd(which is pretty much the only way The League beats him), but not before using Orion's face to press a button. Literally.
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Yeah General Eiling is no joke. He could likely solo.
Eiling no sold everything that the JLA threw at him. Not just tanked it, straight up no sold it. The only reason he lost was because of BFR.
Morals off but in character the bricks should take it since BRB and Thor will absolutely try to brawl and they will absolutely be manhandled in melee combat by Eiling and Hulk.
I literally fail to see how the hammer bros win when either WWH or Eiling can beat them 1v1, so WWH is a step above Thor seeing as regular Hulk is already roughly 60/40 towards Hulk imo and Eiling is someone who fought and held his own against the entire Justice League... I mean come on lol.
Eiling didn't score any knockouts, but he could not be put down in that arc. Astroforce? Nope. Heatvisioned limbs and sonic boom doubleteams? Regenerated in panels. The tactical nuke bullet designed to kill Superman? Genetically enhanced salamander tissue.
Morals off team 2 will speed blitz. Thor can one shot Hulk with no morals.
Thor is gonna speedblitz? Hahahahahaha.
Forget that, Hulk has way more chance blitzing Thor then the other way around.
You mean like all those other times where he was morals off and not holding back screaming at Hulk "now you die!" or "KILL YOU" and he failed to one-shot Hulk? Or 2-shot him? Or 3-shot him? Or anything?
For those otherwise unfamiliar, statement-wise Eiling/The Shaggy Man has been referred to in The Justice League's computer-logs as a "planetary-level threat", it's unofficial motto is being referred to as "Immortal. Invulnerable. Unbeatable.", stated himself he "feels no pain", chosen by Eiling to transfer his mind into due to The Shaggy Man being "The one enemy The JLA could never actually defeat, and Batman later re-enforcing the statement by saying "He's right: The Shaggy Man was unbeatable. The League was only ever able to restrain him at best.". Anyway, this basically gives the gist of where General Eiling sits power-wise.
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Get's hit point-blank by Warmaker One's tactical-atomic bullet, specifically designed to defeat Superman, or in Warmaker's own words states it as "...Clean microscopic. It'll devestate a few-feet radius without leaving radiation. Our guys reckon this one'll even take you down. Treats it as absolutely nothing(while elaborating on his healing factor).
Superman man and Steel decide to fully unleash offensively against him, yet he still manages to catch Superman by surprise with his speed, then later stomps him. Literally.
And basically all Orion; The Dog of War and Scion of Darkseid manages to contribute to the fight is get the Astro Force 100% no-sold, used as a mini club to bitch-slap Superman. Again. Eiling is finally defeated by being BFR'd(which is pretty much the only way The League beats him), but not before using Orion's face to press a button. Literally.
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Yeah General Eiling is no joke. He could likely solo.
Eiling no sold everything that the JLA threw at him. Not just tanked it, straight up no sold it. The only reason he lost was because of BFR.
Morals off but in character the bricks should take it since BRB and Thor will absolutely try to brawl and they will absolutely be manhandled in melee combat by Eiling and Hulk.
I literally fail to see how the hammer bros win when either WWH or Eiling can beat them 1v1, so WWH is a step above Thor seeing as regular Hulk is already roughly 60/40 towards Hulk imo and Eiling is someone who fought and held his own against the entire Justice League... I mean come on lol.
Eiling didn't score any knockouts, but he could not be put down in that arc. Astroforce? Nope. Heatvisioned limbs and sonic boom doubleteams? Regenerated in panels. The tactical nuke bullet designed to kill Superman? Genetically enhanced salamander tissue.
Morals off team 2 will speed blitz. Thor can one shot Hulk with no morals.
Thor is gonna speedblitz? Hahahahahaha.
Forget that, Hulk has way more chance blitzing Thor then the other way around.
You mean like all those other times where he was morals off and not holding back screaming at Hulk "now you die!" or "KILL YOU" and he failed to one-shot Hulk? Or 2-shot him? Or 3-shot him? Or anything?
For those otherwise unfamiliar, statement-wise Eiling/The Shaggy Man has been referred to in The Justice League's computer-logs as a "planetary-level threat", it's unofficial motto is being referred to as "Immortal. Invulnerable. Unbeatable.", stated himself he "feels no pain", chosen by Eiling to transfer his mind into due to The Shaggy Man being "The one enemy The JLA could never actually defeat, and Batman later re-enforcing the statement by saying "He's right: The Shaggy Man was unbeatable. The League was only ever able to restrain him at best.". Anyway, this basically gives the gist of where General Eiling sits power-wise.
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Get's hit point-blank by Warmaker One's tactical-atomic bullet, specifically designed to defeat Superman, or in Warmaker's own words states it as "...Clean microscopic. It'll devestate a few-feet radius without leaving radiation. Our guys reckon this one'll even take you down. Treats it as absolutely nothing(while elaborating on his healing factor).
Superman man and Steel decide to fully unleash offensively against him, yet he still manages to catch Superman by surprise with his speed, then later stomps him. Literally.
And basically all Orion; The Dog of War and Scion of Darkseid manages to contribute to the fight is get the Astro Force 100% no-sold, used as a mini club to bitch-slap Superman. Again. Eiling is finally defeated by being BFR'd(which is pretty much the only way The League beats him), but not before using Orion's face to press a button. Literally.
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Yeah General Eiling is no joke. He could likely solo.
Morals off team 2 will speed blitz. Thor can one shot Hulk with no morals.
Thor is gonna speedblitz? Hahahahahaha.
Forget that, Hulk has way more chance blitzing Thor then the other way around.
You mean like all those other times where he was morals off and not holding back screaming at Hulk "now you die!" or "KILL YOU" and he failed to one-shot Hulk? Or 2-shot him? Or 3-shot him? Or anything?
Thor has Mjolnir. Also he has 2 shotted him while Hulk while extremely pissed off. (3 shot if you count Thor hitting his hand). And he did this with ease not even trying. Imagine what he'd do if he were trying.
Also Thor is waaaaaaay faster. He was capable of finding Ego in hyperspace (over 5000x the speed of light). And also Mjolnir can go to the edge of the galaxy and back in less than a minute surprising Thor. This means Mjolnir can go billions of times faster than light. With no morals Hulk WILL die before he blinks.
@helixflameyt: So what if he has Mljonir? He didn't 2-shot him, they had a very prolonged fight in which dozens of blows where exchanged before Thor finally KO'd him with a surprise lightning strike to the head. Hulk wasn't "extremely" pissed off when he KO'd Thor and bloodied his face either. Thor tried to kill Hulk on at least 2 occasions and failed to, he even failed to knock him out so i don't need to imagine i already saw it for myself.
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1st scan
Thor: Kill you!
But he couldn't kill or even KO Hulk
2nd scan
Thor: Now you die!
But Hulk didn't die, he couldn't even KO him and was actually losing.
Those are 2 separate occasions of Thor not doing jack shit to Hulk while actually wanting to kill him. There are 2 more occasions where he fought Hulk without holding back and stating he will beat him any way he can
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1st scan
Thor while not holding back and yelling "to the death" hits Hulk sends him flying into an adamantium statue but doesn't kill him or even KO him, in fact Hulk is fine as he rips the statue and tries to kill Thor with it prompting Thor to use Mljonir to teleport the statue out of Hulks hands as he admits Hulk could kill him with it.
2nd scan
From a fight they had in the 2001 annual where the fought for the entire issue where they both managed to knock each other at one point during the fight, so again at best a stalemate for Thor.
Now that last fight was from 2001 which is prior to Hulks 2006 permanent amp boost that made him more powerful and confirmed him to be the strongest hero of Earth
Not only that but you have WWH here, who is a step above Thor, seeing as Thor already has enough trouble with a regular Savage Hulk that didn't even receive his 2006 amp.
Mljonir has only ever traveled 2x the speed of light, stop using faulty logic and cherry picked scans taken out of context. He never moved 5000 the speed of light in Hyperspace, Mljonir never reached the farthest edges of space, it turned back pretty much immediately and went back to Thor.
The actual speed of Mljonir
But the fact that it can travel at 2x the speed of light doesn't mean that Thor can throw it at that speed(he can't) nor does it mean it immediately goes at that speed as soon as it leaves his hand, considering everyone from Captain Amerrica and Spiderman to Hulk and many more have dodged a Mjolnir throw from Thor.
In fact someone like Hulk has not only dodged Mjolnir before but blitzed Thor in the same page.
So before you regurgitate your nonsense of Thor throwing Mjolnir at billion times the speed of light and killing Hulk before he blinks, nonsense of which is supported in the comics, in fact the opposite has been shown, read up on all of this first.
1st Batch
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1st and 2nd scans are Thor having trouble tagging Mongoose.
3rd scan is Thor being called Slow as clouds by a minion of Mikaboshi
4th and 5th scans are Maesterton Thor failing a combat speed test that Captain America was passing easily. Cap comments his predecessor (Normal Thor) had trouble as well
6th scan is Thor saying Wolverine is faster than him and the 7th scan reinforcing it
8th scan is Thor struggling to tag Quicksilver and resorting to an AOE
9th scan is Maesterton Thor getting Blitzed by Spiderman
10th scan is a Marvel staff member saying Thor can't run at 150-300 MPH
2nd Batch
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1st Scan is Thor being unable to Tag Daredevil and Proclaim "Thy Reflexes defy Undertsanding!"
2nd Scan is Falcon saying Thor is too slow for Spidey
3rd Scan is Thor being unable to react to a blast from a Dragon
4th scan is Thor getting tagged by a dragon and the 5th and 6th scan shows Mantis blitzing the exact same Dragon
7th scan shows Nebuela firing an Energy blast and Thor can't react to it
8th scan shows the Collector firing an energy blast and Iron man has to save him
9th scan shows Thor being unable to react to being stepped on
The 10th scan Shows Thor needing to use an AOE on a Random energy blast
3rd Batch
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1st Scan shows Thor getting tagged by a Random Kree
2nd Scan shows Thor being unable to react to a random punch
3rd Scan shows Thor being Tagged by a Random Robot
4th Scan shows Thor unable to react to a Thrown Car
5th scan Shows Thor getting Tackled by someone who She-Hulk easily tags
6th and 7th scans are Thor getting tagged by Energy blasts
8th Scan Shows Thor getting Tagged by Gargoyle
9th scan shows Thor being unable to react to Ghost rider but in the 10th scan Iron man reacts just fine
4th Batch
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1st Scan shows Thor being unable to react to Hank Pym yet in the 2nd Scan Captain America and Iron Man swat him aside
3rd scan shows Thor's energy blasts getting reflected at him and he can't react
4th scan shows Thor getting tagged by Kang's energy blasts
5th scan Shows Thor getting tagged by Lightning
6th scan Shows Thor getting tagged by Scorpion
7th scan Shows She-Hulk blitzing him
8th scan Shows Thunderstrike's Hammer tagging him
9th scan shows Titanium Man's blast tagging him
10th Scan shows Iron Man reacting to Ultron's Blast but Thor can't
5th Batch:
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1st Scan shows Thor Incapable of reacting to a tree falling on him
2nd Scan shows Thor being Tagged by Lightning
3rd Scan shows Thor Incapable of hitting Iron man more than once
4th scan shows Thor getting blitzed by White Tiger
5th scan Shows The Senior Vice President of Marvel saying that Thor's reaction speed and Speed with Mjolnir isn't even close to Quicksilver or Speed Demon. He also claims that if either of them raced Thor without Mjolnir they would cross the Finish line before Thor started to Run
6th scan shows someone with the Speed of a Lion dodging Thor hits and tagging him
7th scan Shows Thor not being able to react to some falling rocks
8th scan shows Captain America tagging Thor
9th scan shows Black Knight stopping a blitz from Thor
10th scan shows Namor dodging Thor's blasts and then tagging him
6th Batch:
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1st scan shows Rachel tagging and Blocking hits from Thor
2nd scan shows Namor at speeds Faster then the Eye can follow hosing Thor
3rd scan shows Apocalypse catching Thor's axe throw and Thor not reacting to a similar throw
4th scan Shows Champion easily dodging strikes from Thor
5th scan shows the Crusader stabbing Thor
6th scan shows Emma tagging and Countering hits from Thor
7th scan shows Magneto making a force field before Thor can react
8th scan shows Magnet tagging Thor
9th scan shows Hulk dodging Thor
10th scan shows Spiderman Dodging Thor again
7th Batch:
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1st scan Shows Juggernaut tagging Thor yet in the 2nd scan Spiderman was Blitzing him
3rd scan Shows Wrecker tying Thor up before he can react
4th Scan shows both Iron man and Wasp tagging Thor
5th scan shows Ulik reacting to hits from Thir
6th scan shows Thing tagging Thor
7th scan shows Hulk dodging Mjolnir and Blitzing Thor in the same page
Hope you don't mind me borrowing the list @goldchamp101
So Thor is incapable of blitzing someone like Hulk, who has in fact a bunch of decent speed feats and a far better case to be made of him blitzing Thor, mostly because he has already done it in the comics.
@atheistknowledge: Don't forget the instance against Hyperion(that's ironically so often used for, as opposed to against him) where Thor only manages to tag him AFTER the former successfully bullrushes the latter.
@helixflameyt: So what if he has Mljonir? He didn't 2-shot him, they had a very prolonged fight in which dozens of blows where exchanged before Thor finally KO'd him with a surprise lightning strike to the head. Hulk wasn't "extremely" pissed off when he KO'd Thor and bloodied his face either. Thor tried to kill Hulk on at least 2 occasions and failed to, he even failed to knock him out so i don't need to imagine i already saw it for myself.
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1st scan
Thor: Kill you!
But he couldn't kill or even KO Hulk
2nd scan
Thor: Now you die!
But Hulk didn't die, he couldn't even KO him and was actually losing.
Those are 2 separate occasions of Thor not doing jack shit to Hulk while actually wanting to kill him. There are 2 more occasions where he fought Hulk without holding back and stating he will beat him any way he can
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1st scan
Thor while not holding back and yelling "to the death" hits Hulk sends him flying into an adamantium statue but doesn't kill him or even KO him, in fact Hulk is fine as he rips the statue and tries to kill Thor with it prompting Thor to use Mljonir to teleport the statue out of Hulks hands as he admits Hulk could kill him with it.
2nd scan
From a fight they had in the 2001 annual where the fought for the entire issue where they both managed to knock each other at one point during the fight, so again at best a stalemate for Thor.
Now that last fight was from 2001 which is prior to Hulks 2006 permanent amp boost that made him more powerful and confirmed him to be the strongest hero of Earth
Not only that but you have WWH here, who is a step above Thor, seeing as Thor already has enough trouble with a regular Savage Hulk that didn't even receive his 2006 amp.
Mljonir has only ever traveled 2x the speed of light, stop using faulty logic and cherry picked scans taken out of context. He never moved 5000 the speed of light in Hyperspace, Mljonir never reached the farthest edges of space, it turned back pretty much immediately and went back to Thor.
The actual speed of Mljonir
But the fact that it can travel at 2x the speed of light doesn't mean that Thor can throw it at that speed(he can't) nor does it mean it immediately goes at that speed as soon as it leaves his hand, considering everyone from Captain Amerrica and Spiderman to Hulk and many more have dodged a Mjolnir throw from Thor.
In fact someone like Hulk has not only dodged Mjolnir before but blitzed Thor in the same page.
So before you regurgitate your nonsense of Thor throwing Mjolnir at billion times the speed of light and killing Hulk before he blinks, nonsense of which is supported in the comics, in fact the opposite has been shown, read up on all of this first.
1st Batch
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1st and 2nd scans are Thor having trouble tagging Mongoose.
3rd scan is Thor being called Slow as clouds by a minion of Mikaboshi
4th and 5th scans are Maesterton Thor failing a combat speed test that Captain America was passing easily. Cap comments his predecessor (Normal Thor) had trouble as well
6th scan is Thor saying Wolverine is faster than him and the 7th scan reinforcing it
8th scan is Thor struggling to tag Quicksilver and resorting to an AOE
9th scan is Maesterton Thor getting Blitzed by Spiderman
10th scan is a Marvel staff member saying Thor can't run at 150-300 MPH
2nd Batch
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1st Scan is Thor being unable to Tag Daredevil and Proclaim "Thy Reflexes defy Undertsanding!"
2nd Scan is Falcon saying Thor is too slow for Spidey
3rd Scan is Thor being unable to react to a blast from a Dragon
4th scan is Thor getting tagged by a dragon and the 5th and 6th scan shows Mantis blitzing the exact same Dragon
7th scan shows Nebuela firing an Energy blast and Thor can't react to it
8th scan shows the Collector firing an energy blast and Iron man has to save him
9th scan shows Thor being unable to react to being stepped on
The 10th scan Shows Thor needing to use an AOE on a Random energy blast
3rd Batch
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1st Scan shows Thor getting tagged by a Random Kree
2nd Scan shows Thor being unable to react to a random punch
3rd Scan shows Thor being Tagged by a Random Robot
4th Scan shows Thor unable to react to a Thrown Car
5th scan Shows Thor getting Tackled by someone who She-Hulk easily tags
6th and 7th scans are Thor getting tagged by Energy blasts
8th Scan Shows Thor getting Tagged by Gargoyle
9th scan shows Thor being unable to react to Ghost rider but in the 10th scan Iron man reacts just fine
4th Batch
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1st Scan shows Thor being unable to react to Hank Pym yet in the 2nd Scan Captain America and Iron Man swat him aside
3rd scan shows Thor's energy blasts getting reflected at him and he can't react
4th scan shows Thor getting tagged by Kang's energy blasts
5th scan Shows Thor getting tagged by Lightning
6th scan Shows Thor getting tagged by Scorpion
7th scan Shows She-Hulk blitzing him
8th scan Shows Thunderstrike's Hammer tagging him
9th scan shows Titanium Man's blast tagging him
10th Scan shows Iron Man reacting to Ultron's Blast but Thor can't
5th Batch:
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1st Scan shows Thor Incapable of reacting to a tree falling on him
2nd Scan shows Thor being Tagged by Lightning
3rd Scan shows Thor Incapable of hitting Iron man more than once
4th scan shows Thor getting blitzed by White Tiger
5th scan Shows The Senior Vice President of Marvel saying that Thor's reaction speed and Speed with Mjolnir isn't even close to Quicksilver or Speed Demon. He also claims that if either of them raced Thor without Mjolnir they would cross the Finish line before Thor started to Run
6th scan shows someone with the Speed of a Lion dodging Thor hits and tagging him
7th scan Shows Thor not being able to react to some falling rocks
8th scan shows Captain America tagging Thor
9th scan shows Black Knight stopping a blitz from Thor
10th scan shows Namor dodging Thor's blasts and then tagging him
6th Batch:
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1st scan shows Rachel tagging and Blocking hits from Thor
2nd scan shows Namor at speeds Faster then the Eye can follow hosing Thor
3rd scan shows Apocalypse catching Thor's axe throw and Thor not reacting to a similar throw
4th scan Shows Champion easily dodging strikes from Thor
5th scan shows the Crusader stabbing Thor
6th scan shows Emma tagging and Countering hits from Thor
7th scan shows Magneto making a force field before Thor can react
8th scan shows Magnet tagging Thor
9th scan shows Hulk dodging Thor
10th scan shows Spiderman Dodging Thor again
7th Batch:
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1st scan Shows Juggernaut tagging Thor yet in the 2nd scan Spiderman was Blitzing him
3rd scan Shows Wrecker tying Thor up before he can react
4th Scan shows both Iron man and Wasp tagging Thor
5th scan shows Ulik reacting to hits from Thir
6th scan shows Thing tagging Thor
7th scan shows Hulk dodging Mjolnir and Blitzing Thor in the same page
Hope you don't mind me borrowing the list @goldchamp101
So Thor is incapable of blitzing someone like Hulk, who has in fact a bunch of decent speed feats and a far better case to be made of him blitzing Thor, mostly because he has already done it in the comics.
A morals off Thor WILL curbstomp any form of Hulk in a speedblitz. Possibly billions of times faster than light. There's not really an argument to back Hulk up.
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