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Round 1

  • Everyone is in Character.
  • Standard Knowledge.
  • No BFR or Prep.
  • Savage/Indestructible Hulk.

Round 2

  • Hulk is In Character.
  • Green Scar Incarnation.
  • Wraith is Bloodlusted.
  • No BFR or Prep.

Round 3

  • Same as round 2 but both are Bloodlusted.

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Wraith.

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@krleavenger: Only round I can't see Wraith winning is the 3rd one.

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probably Hulk all rounds

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Can someone please list some feats for Wraith? I will try to look up information about him in the meantime.

Thank you if you do post feats for him.

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Hulk sweeps

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@helloman said:

Can someone please list some feats for Wraith? I will try to look up information about him in the meantime.

Thank you if you do post feats for him.

He is stronger than New 52 Superman in pretty much every way. Clark overpowered him only because of superior skill and tactical fighting.

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#11  Edited By Cosmic_Lantern

Hulk handily if not stomps. That fight with supes wasn't even that impressive as clark acted like a little girl every time he got hit until he started using his head.

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#13  Edited By 20damon

Indestructible Hulk was tanking hits from Thanos, lots of people don't realize what a beast he is. I don't see Wraith putting him down.

WWH is even stronger and WWH bloodlusted is Worldbreaker >.>

Hulk, all 3 rounds

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First and second round wraith third one hulk

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So why does this guy look like Darkseid with a broken S.H.I.E.L.D. emblem on his chest?

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Wraith was working for united states right?

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@pansito said:

Wraith was working for united states right?

Yep.

@20damon said:

Indestructible Hulk was tanking hits from Thanos, lots of people don't realize what a beast he is. I don't see Wraith putting him down.

Correction. He tanked one punch from Thanos. Thor did the same, it was just way worse.

WWH is even stronger and WWH bloodlusted is Worldbreaker >.>

He fights like he is bloodlusted but he can't go to those levels.

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@pansito said:

Wraith was working for united states right?

Yep.

@20damon said:

Indestructible Hulk was tanking hits from Thanos, lots of people don't realize what a beast he is. I don't see Wraith putting him down.

Correction. He tanked one punch from Thanos. Thor did the same, it was just way worse.

WWH is even stronger and WWH bloodlusted is Worldbreaker >.>

He fights like he is bloodlusted but he can't go to those levels.

Tanked it and smiled afterwards. Thing about Indestructible Hulk is that we don't even really know how good his healing factor is because his durability is so high that it's never really been tested.

But alright, yeah, he can't go Worldbreaker, but a bloodlusted WWHulk will wipe the floor with this guy.

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@20damon said:
@krleavenger said:
@pansito said:

Wraith was working for united states right?

Yep.

@20damon said:

Indestructible Hulk was tanking hits from Thanos, lots of people don't realize what a beast he is. I don't see Wraith putting him down.

Correction. He tanked one punch from Thanos. Thor did the same, it was just way worse.

WWH is even stronger and WWH bloodlusted is Worldbreaker >.>

He fights like he is bloodlusted but he can't go to those levels.

Tanked it and smiled afterwards. Thing about Indestructible Hulk is that we don't even really know how good his healing factor is because his durability is so high that it's never really been tested.

But alright, yeah, he can't go Worldbreaker, but a bloodlusted WWHulk will wipe the floor with this guy.

He was chocked out and was struggling with deep sea pressure, in Superman Unchained they where casually fighting in the center of the planet and taking hits from black hole laser canons. Could be called an outlier but the problem there is that Indestructible Hulk was all written by one guy, gotta take the bad with the good.

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@20damon said:

Tanked it and smiled afterwards. Thing about Indestructible Hulk is that we don't even really know how good his healing factor is because his durability is so high that it's never really been tested.

Yeah I know but smiling does not mean he wasn't hurt. I am sure you saw a lot of people getting punched and smiling afterwards.

But alright, yeah, he can't go Worldbreaker, but a bloodlusted WWHulk will wipe the floor with this guy.

I am not saying he can't win but fighting a bloodlusted tank more powerful than New 52 Superman? Yeah he is not gonna wipe the floor with him.

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@20damon said:

Tanked it and smiled afterwards. Thing about Indestructible Hulk is that we don't even really know how good his healing factor is because his durability is so high that it's never really been tested.

Yeah I know but smiling does not mean he wasn't hurt. I am sure you saw a lot of people getting punched and smiling afterwards.

But alright, yeah, he can't go Worldbreaker, but a bloodlusted WWHulk will wipe the floor with this guy.

I am not saying he can't win but fighting a bloodlusted tank more powerful than New 52 Superman? Yeah he is not gonna wipe the floor with him.

We can agree to disagree, i got no problem with that.

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@helloman said:

Can someone please list some feats for Wraith? I will try to look up information about him in the meantime.

Thank you if you do post feats for him.

He is essentially suppose to have the same powers as Superman but 50 years into the future (think it's 50) this made him roughly twice as powerful in physical stats along with some extra powers he said Clark would access in the future. He could transmute objects and energy and was incredibly intelligent in how to use them. He could transmute krytonite, absorb energy, make the molecules in something unstable until it exploded and transmute parts of his own body.

Clarks edge on him was using advanced h2h fighting techniques and by cancelling out his extra powers in the center of the Earth

There's no reason he won't kill the Hulk in character (didn't really want to kill Superman, ends up sacrificing himself to save Superman) and even the most ardent Hulk fan can't really argue with someone transmuting there hand into an ultra dense sharp object and ramming it in at that strength and speed.

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Hulk all rounds, but in a hard fight.

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Thanos swatting away Hulk when he wasn't even trying isn't Hulk tanking shit. Of course he can survive Thanos' blows, but people act like Hulk playfully took Thanos' best/most serious punch. gtfoh

Anyway, I give this to Hulk in all rounds except Round 1 I think.

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Wraith round 1. But the last two rounds I would give to Hulk.

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R1: Wraith R2: Wraith R3: Wraith.

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I don't think Hulk was fazed in the least by Thanos punch. Not one bit.

That was no where near Thanos best punch. Not even close.

I have nothing else to contribute here

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@p00ty said:

I don't think Hulk was fazed in the least by Thanos punch. Not one bit.

That was no where near Thanos best punch. Not even close.

I have nothing else to contribute here

Oh, i agree with both parts. But that punch was still nothing to laugh at, even though it was not Thanos' best.

Indestructible Hulk still has some impressive showings like taking half the Phoenix force, slamming down Starbrand who no sold Mjolnir, tanking Starbrand's hit (even if he had to be rescued from space afterwards :P )

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Round 1 - Wraith

Round 2-3 - Green-Skaar

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#35  Edited By Lvenger

Wraith takes Round 1, Round 2 can go either way but Hulk wins the third.

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wraith wins first round hulk wins 2nd and 3rd round

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@nima_ said:

Thanos swatting away Hulk when he wasn't even trying isn't Hulk tanking shit. Of course he can survive Thanos' blows, but people act like Hulk playfully took Thanos' best/most serious punch. gtfoh

Anyway, I give this to Hulk in all rounds except Round 1 I think.

Is there are reason why that punch wasn't one of Thanos best punches? What is his best punch btw? He doesn't have much in the way of impressive striking feats.

People act like Thanos punching guys like Hulk and Thor with his best punches would make them explode or something... it wont. Hulk in particular is very durable in the way of tanking blunt force. If he can tank dozens of Thor blows without ever getting KO'd by them, tank punches from Onslaught that could be heard from miles away and who bitchslapped Juggernaut across a country into unconsciousness, tank punches from Zeus who basically liquefied his insides with every punch, tank hits from Annhilius when he was Thanos equal then i don't see what makes Thanos any more different, his striking feats certainly don't make him different.

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@20damon said:
@krleavenger said:
@pansito said:

Wraith was working for united states right?

Yep.

@20damon said:

Indestructible Hulk was tanking hits from Thanos, lots of people don't realize what a beast he is. I don't see Wraith putting him down.

Correction. He tanked one punch from Thanos. Thor did the same, it was just way worse.

WWH is even stronger and WWH bloodlusted is Worldbreaker >.>

He fights like he is bloodlusted but he can't go to those levels.

Tanked it and smiled afterwards. Thing about Indestructible Hulk is that we don't even really know how good his healing factor is because his durability is so high that it's never really been tested.

But alright, yeah, he can't go Worldbreaker, but a bloodlusted WWHulk will wipe the floor with this guy.

He was chocked out and was struggling with deep sea pressure, in Superman Unchained they where casually fighting in the center of the planet and taking hits from black hole laser canons. Could be called an outlier but the problem there is that Indestructible Hulk was all written by one guy, gotta take the bad with the good.

He choked because Waid forgot that Hulk can breathe underwater, he didn't have trouble with deep sea pressure, the guy withstood the pressure weight akin to a star on his back, so deep sea pressure isn't really a problem. Indestructible Hulk wasn't written by one writer, he was written by several writers actually, the Indestructible Hulk series was written by 1 writer.

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Wraith is too much for Hulk.

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Wraith, Hulk, Hulk

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#42  Edited By emperorthanos-  Moderator

Wraith should be able to win round 1 and probably round 2 as well. But loses round 3.

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Wraith all rounds

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@atheistknowledge: first of all, happy New year!!!

I did say Hulk can definitely take Thanos hits no doubt and he has before. I am saying THAT feat in particular never came off to me as a serious one that many claim it to be as an Hulk smiling it off. Surviving it? Sure. Not being KO'd? Yes. Also, Thanos tends to revel in combat and that plot in particular was Thanos engaging in unnecessary combat because they already had the antimatter bomb to blow up earth. So I saw it as Black Order fighting for some pure Nihilist fun.

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Wraith sweeps

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@nima_ said:

@atheistknowledge: first of all, happy New year!!!

I did say Hulk can definitely take Thanos hits no doubt and he has before. I am saying THAT feat in particular never came off to me as a serious one that many claim it to be as an Hulk smiling it off. Surviving it? Sure. Not being KO'd? Yes. Also, Thanos tends to revel in combat and that plot in particular was Thanos engaging in unnecessary combat because they already had the antimatter bomb to blow up earth. So I saw it as Black Order fighting for some pure Nihilist fun.

Happy new year.
I don't know why some people say that but that feat did come off to me as pretty serious. First off Thanos hit a charging Hulk so hard he sent him flying across an entire village, he made it clear he wasn't interested in prolonged combat or any combat at all he was there for other reasons and i am pretty sure he intended to finish Hulk with that punch, but that wasn't enough. Honestly the smiling of part to me is also a bit of a stretch as it's not 100% clear and could be just the way artist drew his face without putting much thought into it, though that was started by Ghostravage i think so everyone went along with it, including me.

Wraith sweeps

No he doesn't.

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r1 wraith 2.3 hulk.

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@lvenger said:

Wraith takes Round 1, Round 2 can go either way but Hulk wins the third.

QFT

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@atheistknowledge: Wraith definitely takes round 1 and 2 round 3 Inthink it could go either way, but I back wraith for A very small majority, so he sweeps

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