" @Thor's hammmer: You're talking about the non-canon Justice mini series. Lol. That was a fun read right there. "lmao
World Breaker Hulk vs Captain Marvel (dc)
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" @FinalStar86 said:So Dr T got banned?there is a reason why you and Superdemon have no credibility on this site, because pretty everything you say is false. "Would you believe me if I told you that Superdemon is DrTyrannical on another account? I asked a mod in a PM if he could check their IPs and he said they were the same. "
" if there is no morals then hulk billy cant fight worth crap and hulk is way stronger "Right, except that Hulk isn't even close to Billy's strenght, in fact Hulk doesn't even have a small fraction of Cap's physical strength
Hulk can't fight worth crap either
" @MrDirector786 said:I have no idea but he hasn't been online for about a week. Judging from his recent activity, I think he just left that account." @FinalStar86 said:So Dr T got banned? "there is a reason why you and Superdemon have no credibility on this site, because pretty everything you say is false. "Would you believe me if I told you that Superdemon is DrTyrannical on another account? I asked a mod in a PM if he could check their IPs and he said they were the same. "
Why is anything anyone says flawed to you? Why? Because they don't agree with you? Why does it matter if anyone cares Hulk is stronger than Superman and Captain Marvel? Really? Who cares? "
@superdemon said:
" @FinalStar86: No. I report disrespectful trolls to the mods becuase they told me to do so. "
WIN. Captain Marvel would take this, sadly.
" @Noobasaurus_Rex said:No they weren't. Just ignored and undermined." @FinalStar86 said:Scans have been posted for Hulk and Thanos, all of them were debunked, there is a reason why you and Superdemon have no credibility on this site, because pretty everything you say is false. "" @Noobasaurus_Rex said:What I am going to say ties in which both of your statements. I can't defend what I say if what I say gets ignored. My statements were never debunked. Just ignored. Not once have I seen a scan here to support Darkseid. It's sad, really. Scans have been posted for Thanos and Hulk, proving why both are superior to Darkseid. I want to see some scans for Darkseid defending exactly why people think Thanos and Hulk aren't superior to him. Saying "Darkseid and Superman this...." doesn't count. Is it really that hard to show some scans? "" @FinalStar86 said:They were debunked, by almost everyone on the thread. They were never ignored at all, don't make things up. No you see, when you state an opinion on the forums, you need to be ready to defend it. Since you cannot defend your opinions they are meaningless "" @Noobasaurus_Rex said:They were never debunked. Just ignored. Hulk is stronger than Superman. You don't like it? Don't reply. "" @FinalStar86 said:You're arguments were already debunked in another thread. You can have an opinion, but its still wrong. "" @superdemon said:Clearly, because you in fact do care, which is sad. You don't like that people think Hulk is stronger than Superman or Captain Marvel? Don't reply. I personally think, or rather I KNOW that Hulk is LEAGUES above Superman and Captain Marvel. You will try to refute that, but that still won't change my opinion. Hulk is stronger than Superman and Captain Marvel, no matter what you believe. "" @FinalStar86: No. I report disrespectful trolls to the mods becuase they told me to do so. "Then report yourself
@Noobasaurus_Rex said:" @FinalStar86 said:I'm not even going to dignify this with an answer "" @superdemon said:Why is anything anyone says flawed to you? Why? Because they don't agree with you? Why does it matter if anyone cares Hulk is stronger than Superman and Captain Marvel? Really? Who cares? ""Right, well good luck with that, it seems you'll flag anyone doesn't share the same bias and flawed opinions you do. "
@FinalStar82 said :Actually, I was told by a mod to report this type of crap by you. So, reported is has been. You have no right to disrespect someone like this let alone try and tell them what to do. "" @difficlus said:" WWH has strength on his side, he is stronger than Superman or CM However CM has insane speed (and not just running but reflexes which will not allow WWH to even touch him), flight and other things like Wisdom. I think he simply WVSB( win via speed blitz) or wins via BFR "Right, except WWH doesn't have strenght on his side and isn't a fraction as strong as Superman or Captain Marvel Check your facts before posting again "
Let me know if I can buy a car with credibility.
Hulk is LEAGUES stronger than Billy. The only thing I would give Billy is speed, even though Hulk has shown fast reaction time. Billy is not all that weak that he can't hurt the Hulk, but even though the Hulk surpasses him in strength, I think Billy's speed will give him the win in this battle. A slight edge will go to Billy due to his speed. If they were at equal speed, Captain Marvel would get destroyed. But since Billy has his quick speed, even though it isn't shown a lot and only on a minimal occasion, same thing with Hulk's reaction speed, I still think that Billy's slight edge given to him is because of his speed.
I'll give you Superman is more powerful then the Hulk (in my opinion),But he's nowhere near GOD powerful. Just think of that....Omnipotence vs Laser eyes....." @difficlus said:
Because a God is more powerful than a steroid radiated human. "" @Supreme Marvel said:
" @difficlus said:tell me why then...show me... "" @King Saturn said:He doesn't need to convince you because he is. "" Captain Marvel ( DC ) should win here... Billy is Faster, Stronger, More Durable then Hulk is "I'm stumped over stronger Saturn, convince me otherwise... "
" @Supreme Marvel said:Read everything in them quotes and please tell me where I have mentioned Superman as a God? Captain Marvel is powered by 6 Gods. He has their godlike powers. And is considered a god. Learn to read please before making any statement against me. Zeus is a God, however does not posses the powers of Omnipotence.I'll give you Superman is more powerful then the Hulk (in my opinion),But he's nowhere near GOD powerful. Just think of that....Omnipotence vs Laser eyes..... "" @difficlus said:
Because a God is more powerful than a steroid radiated human. "" @Supreme Marvel said:
" @difficlus said:tell me why then...show me... "" @King Saturn said:He doesn't need to convince you because he is. "" Captain Marvel ( DC ) should win here... Billy is Faster, Stronger, More Durable then Hulk is "I'm stumped over stronger Saturn, convince me otherwise... "
Not a big Hulk fan so please be nice but who is more powerful, World Breaker Hulk or World War Hulk? Or is it the same one? So many freaking Hulks in so many freaking colors.
@Noobasaurus_Rex: I love your username haha.
hulks speed wise was able to tag a flying sentry in wwh so he can hit the flying guys no problem,just not sure how fast sentrys flys at though.strength wise it would be closer,that just gos back to the more rage=strength question.
" world breaker hulk has no feats, I'll go with captain marvel "TOAA has no feats. You go with whom ? Cap ?
" @mrtrickster said:" world breaker hulk has no feats, I'll go with captain marvel "TOAA has no feats. You go with whom ? Cap ? "
this is the worst analogy ever
" @Inevitable said:Because it proves that your logic is flawed ?" @mrtrickster said:this is the worst analogy ever "" world breaker hulk has no feats, I'll go with captain marvel "TOAA has no feats. You go with whom ? Cap ? "
" @mrtrickster said:" @Inevitable said:Because it proves that your logic is flawed ? "" @mrtrickster said:this is the worst analogy ever "" world breaker hulk has no feats, I'll go with captain marvel "TOAA has no feats. You go with whom ? Cap ? "
CM stomps any Hulk
" @Inevitable said:Stomps and gets slaughtered." @mrtrickster said:" @Inevitable said:Because it proves that your logic is flawed ? "" @mrtrickster said:this is the worst analogy ever "" world breaker hulk has no feats, I'll go with captain marvel "TOAA has no feats. You go with whom ? Cap ? "
CM stomps any Hulk "
" @jasraj said:" @Inevitable said:Stomps and gets slaughtered. "" @mrtrickster said:" @Inevitable said:Because it proves that your logic is flawed ? "" @mrtrickster said:this is the worst analogy ever "" world breaker hulk has no feats, I'll go with captain marvel "TOAA has no feats. You go with whom ? Cap ? "
CM stomps any Hulk "
Yep
" @mrtrickster said:" @Inevitable said:Because it proves that your logic is flawed ? "" @mrtrickster said:this is the worst analogy ever "" world breaker hulk has no feats, I'll go with captain marvel "TOAA has no feats. You go with whom ? Cap ? "
no, because TOAA doen't apply here AT ALL. TOAA is omnipotent, he created the freaking marvel including that dumb hulk. so he doesn't need feats to prove is superiority.
hulk on the other hand needs feats to prove how powerful he is, and since world breaker hulk almost has none, nothing he's done suggest him to beat captain marvel. how is this so hard to grasp for you?
" @jumpstart55 said:LMFAO" @superdemon said:The common sense universe. "" @jumpstart55 said:Um ok what universe is this? ""lol. WWH is just as strong as Superman. "
@superdemon said:I hope your not suggesting that the Hulk is stronger then ol supes, because dont get me wrong the Hulk is strong by superhero standards but hes no Superman." @jumpstart55: I don't discredit it that much. Hulk was propelled into an asteroid that was 2 x Earth's size and shattered it with his fist. He remained unharmed. Superman was propelled into a shadow moon of Saturn and was knocked out. What does that tell you? "
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"Hulk FtW "
i disagree, though i like hulk, he loses, if hulk will destroy the world in a few footsteps then Billy can just fly to another planet, get me?
" @blacharrt said:You seem to diagree with me on everything, but that aside."Hulk FtW "i disagree, though i like hulk, he loses, if hulk will destroy the world in a few footsteps then Billy can just fly to another planet, get me? "
Someone has to prove that Captain Marvel can actually outstrength the Hulk, which is not even possible.
He's Magically durable, but so is Juggernaut, and he can BFR juggernaut for a win.
So as always it comes down to speed, and a blitz agrument. He's been able to hit people trying to blitz him from spider, sentry, thor, quicksilver, Makkari, speedfreak etc. He has been able to hit all of these people his Speed BFR's just as his strength does.
Billy isn't going to try and Kill him and he isn't getting a KO out of WWH.
So WWH isn't outclassed at all, because school is now in session.
" @comicdude23 said:" @blacharrt said:You seem to diagree with me on everything, but that aside. Someone has to prove that Captain Marvel can actually outstrength the Hulk, which is not even possible. He's Magically durable, but so is Juggernaut, and he can BFR juggernaut for a win. So as always it comes down to speed, and a blitz agrument. He's been able to hit people trying to blitz him from spider, sentry, thor, quicksilver, Makkari, speedfreak etc. He has been able to hit all of these people his Speed BFR's just as his strength does. Billy isn't going to try and Kill him and he isn't getting a KO out of WWH. So WWH isn't outclassed at all, because school is now in session. ""Hulk FtW "i disagree, though i like hulk, he loses, if hulk will destroy the world in a few footsteps then Billy can just fly to another planet, get me? "
1) Billy has the strength of DC Hercules, and that is amped up with the power of zeus
2) Billy's speed has been complimented by the Flash, and the Flash wondered if he had a connection to the speed force
3) he has the wisdom of solomon amped up with power of zeus, this amps up all of his powers
billy wins
Hulk has proven he can beat the Olympian and Asgardian gods, the two strongest Pantheon's in Marvel. Not one of them being able to overpower him in pure strength. Except skyfather level Odin, and Zeus himself maybe, those fight haven't actually happened. I think i recall savage hulk trying to hit odin and Odin sending him away." @blacharrt said:
" @comicdude23 said:1) Billy has the strength of DC Hercules, and that is amped up with the power of zeus 2) Billy's speed has been complimented by the Flash, and the Flash wondered if he had a connection to the speed force 3) he has the wisdom of solomon amped up with power of zeus, this amps up all of his powers billy wins "" @blacharrt said:You seem to diagree with me on everything, but that aside. Someone has to prove that Captain Marvel can actually outstrength the Hulk, which is not even possible. He's Magically durable, but so is Juggernaut, and he can BFR juggernaut for a win. So as always it comes down to speed, and a blitz agrument. He's been able to hit people trying to blitz him from spider, sentry, thor, quicksilver, Makkari, speedfreak etc. He has been able to hit all of these people his Speed BFR's just as his strength does. Billy isn't going to try and Kill him and he isn't getting a KO out of WWH. So WWH isn't outclassed at all, because school is now in session. ""Hulk FtW "i disagree, though i like hulk, he loses, if hulk will destroy the world in a few footsteps then Billy can just fly to another planet, get me? "
There is no speed force in Marvel, thank goodness for that. As I said before just as his strength, durability are off the charts due to his Anger/rage trigger, so is his speed/reaction. Not to mention his actual feat of Hitting heroes who are in fact trying to blitz him, and top speeds range from superhuman to speed of light travel. And just on that record alone, he wouldn't miss.
Where Captain Marvel get's his powers from of course is in S.H.A.Z.A.M I know what the acronym stands for:
S for Solomon
S is for the wisdom of Solomon. This grants Captain Marvel a photographic memory, a keen analytical mind with which he can make sound decisions at a fast rate under great stress, clairvoyance, the ability to speak many languages and hypnotic powers. He is also a smooth talker.H for Hercules
H is for the strength of Hercules, strongest of the gods. Billy is empowered with Hercules' nearly limitless superhuman-strength which is often compared to and rivals that of Superman. As such, Captain Marvel's strength is of the highest level and is sufficiently vast enough that it enables him to lift/move unbelievably massive and/or heavy objects possibly on a planetary scale or higher with little effort.A for Atlas
A is for the stamina of Atlas, Titan who bears the heavens on his shoulders. This means he doesn't need to sleep or eat as Captain Marvel and has virtually limitless superhuman endurance. Due to Atlas' stamina, Captain Marvel doesn't fatigue during or after any exertion; no matter how strenuous or how long in duration. This also makes him near-invulnerable.Z for Zeus
Z is for the power of Zeus, most powerful of the gods. This grants Captain Marvel magic resistance and the lightning that changes Billy. He has used the lightning as a weapon before, when he dodges it - allowing it to strike an enemy. Captain Marvel has also stated that with this power also comes the "Wrath of Zeus."A for Achilles
A is for the courage of Achilles, greatest hero of the Trojan War. This grants him an inner strength and confidence.M for Mercury
M is for the speed of Mercury, swiftest of the gods. This grants Marvel his god-like speed and his power to fly. This power is also responsible for his sorcery skills.Lighting has little to no Affect on Hulk, Magical or otherwise, so DC Zeus powered granted is useless.
Hercules strength, I don't even need to comment on this
Speed of Mercury as you mention flash was surprised... well flash he's powered by magic... no speedforce needed there. Him keeping up with flash doesn't disprove the fact that Hulk can hulk people trying to speedblitz him.
Please don't try to list the other ones they are as useless as the ones you mentioned before. Solomon's gift doesn't make Him a better tactical fighter than WWH, WWH has the combination of every version of Hulk he has ever been, every fight he's been in, every power that the Hulk has ever encountered. And he has Banner level intelligence.
" Hmm let's see CM can win by: Ripping Hulk's head off before he even knows the fight started aka before the neurons in his head actualy exchange information. Or just trows him in orbit/sun/etc PS. CM is way stronger then WB Hulk. "
@comicdude23 said:
LOL not at all, Hecules can't even beat she-hulk in arm- wrestling. And She is nothing close to WWH. I didn't see anything in that description that said it was amped further more by Zeus, but again it doesn't matter. Hulk's Strength is limitless, period. He's not stronger than that. it's stated in scans as such." @blacharrt: hercules strength amped up with zeus is stronger than Banner "
CM isn't Black Adam he wouldn't do that, it would be very PIS. Secondly show me one scan of Hulk even having any of his limbs ripped off by anyone? It hasn't been done, therefore it's not even possible.
" @Xan said:" Hmm let's see CM can win by: Ripping Hulk's head off before he even knows the fight started aka before the neurons in his head actualy exchange information. Or just trows him in orbit/sun/etc PS. CM is way stronger then WB Hulk. "
@comicdude23 said:LOL not at all, Hecules can't even beat she-hulk in arm- wrestling. And She is nothing close to WWH. I didn't see anything in that description that said it was amped further more by Zeus, but again it doesn't matter. Hulk's Strength is limitless, period. He's not stronger than that. it's stated in scans as such. CM isn't Black Adam he wouldn't do that, it would be very PIS. Secondly show me one scan of Hulk even having any of his limbs ripped off by anyone? It hasn't been done, therefore it's not even possible. "" @blacharrt: hercules strength amped up with zeus is stronger than Banner "
DC HERCULES, NOT MARVEL, and DC version is stronger than Marvel
" @Xan said:" Hmm let's see CM can win by: Ripping Hulk's head off before he even knows the fight started aka before the neurons in his head actualy exchange information. Or just trows him in orbit/sun/etc PS. CM is way stronger then WB Hulk. "
@comicdude23 said:LOL not at all, Hecules can't even beat she-hulk in arm- wrestling. And She is nothing close to WWH. I didn't see anything in that description that said it was amped further more by Zeus, but again it doesn't matter. Hulk's Strength is limitless, period. He's not stronger than that. it's stated in scans as such. CM isn't Black Adam he wouldn't do that, it would be very PIS. Secondly show me one scan of Hulk even having any of his limbs ripped off by anyone? It hasn't been done, therefore it's not even possible. "" @blacharrt: hercules strength amped up with zeus is stronger than Banner "
By your logic. I never got shot so i am invulnerable to bullets ... Keep traing bub. .. but epic faill.
" @blacharrt said:How strong is DC hercules, can you give some feats?" @Xan said:DC HERCULES, NOT MARVEL, and DC version is stronger than Marvel "" Hmm let's see CM can win by: Ripping Hulk's head off before he even knows the fight started aka before the neurons in his head actualy exchange information. Or just trows him in orbit/sun/etc PS. CM is way stronger then WB Hulk. "
@comicdude23 said:LOL not at all, Hecules can't even beat she-hulk in arm- wrestling. And She is nothing close to WWH. I didn't see anything in that description that said it was amped further more by Zeus, but again it doesn't matter. Hulk's Strength is limitless, period. He's not stronger than that. it's stated in scans as such. CM isn't Black Adam he wouldn't do that, it would be very PIS. Secondly show me one scan of Hulk even having any of his limbs ripped off by anyone? It hasn't been done, therefore it's not even possible. "" @blacharrt: hercules strength amped up with zeus is stronger than Banner "
"dc hercules if any read the arc wasnt going at hulk he was trying to show he had allies but he could of matched him instead of taking hits. Captain marvels strength goes to continent lifting i think. "
correction its planet moving. CM is as strong as Sups and Sups moves planets ... with help yes.
" @comicdude23 said:" @blacharrt said:How strong is DC hercules, can you give some feats? "" @Xan said:DC HERCULES, NOT MARVEL, and DC version is stronger than Marvel "" Hmm let's see CM can win by: Ripping Hulk's head off before he even knows the fight started aka before the neurons in his head actualy exchange information. Or just trows him in orbit/sun/etc PS. CM is way stronger then WB Hulk. "
@comicdude23 said:LOL not at all, Hecules can't even beat she-hulk in arm- wrestling. And She is nothing close to WWH. I didn't see anything in that description that said it was amped further more by Zeus, but again it doesn't matter. Hulk's Strength is limitless, period. He's not stronger than that. it's stated in scans as such. CM isn't Black Adam he wouldn't do that, it would be very PIS. Secondly show me one scan of Hulk even having any of his limbs ripped off by anyone? It hasn't been done, therefore it's not even possible. "" @blacharrt: hercules strength amped up with zeus is stronger than Banner "
he is barely lower than Superman, infact he punched Superman in one hit and sent him flying into a wall, i will try and find you more
I am not gonna argue about strength, CM has finite amout, granted it's crazy high, but stil finite, Hulk in theory,has limitless strength, but tharts here nor there, In secret war, savage/retard hulk held a mountain up, I personaly do remember if it was ever stated how much stronger WHB is compared to savage, Hulks Healing factor is off the charts, so doubt CM could kill him, but CM can hurt him and Knock him out. However I digress, CM has speed on his slide, Yes hulk has delt with speedsters, Makkari being near light speed to lightspeed fast, the main differance is CM's power behind his already strong blows, will be amped by the speed. So CM would win, due to this, even if Hulk hits, and hurts him, CM is not a one trick pony.
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