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#1 Posted by never give up (25000 posts) - - Show Bio
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Both characters are unaware of each others abilities. Battles are won by KO or death. WW is on Mystique's lvl for this battle. Morals On

Round 1- H2H Combat. WW has nothing no lasso, bracelets or headband. nothing

Round 2- Random Encounter. WW has her lasso, bracelets or headband. Mystique has handguns and knifes. The environment can also be used.

Round 3- WW has her lasso, bracelets or headband(including shield and sword) Mystique has handguns, knifes and grenades The environment can also be used. Battles takes place in the city w/ civilians.

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#2 Posted by Outside_85 (16885 posts) - - Show Bio

Since Diana has been reduced to Mystique's level:

Round 1: Mystique; while Diana may have Mystique's strength speed and durability, Mystique has all her usual tricks that should see her through.

Round 2: Mystique; she has hand guns and Diana (or should I say Mystique) isn't fast enough to deflect bullets.

Round 3: Mystique; more weapons in round 2 and Diana only gets a shield and X amounts of civilians she has to care about...which Mystique would use against her.

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#3 Posted by Xanni15 (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

WW all rounds.

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#4 Posted by charlieboy (7178 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Diana would win the first round. Not sure about the second round. Considering her bracelets can make a force field when crossed the bullets aren't that big of a deal. Probably Diana wins that round too.

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#5 Posted by Lady_Liberty (10703 posts) - - Show Bio

Diana has some pretty good feats while depowered, and an impressive collection of skill feats all around. I'd say she would win every round.

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#6 Posted by Urban_Ronin (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

Cant Mystique augment her strength?

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#7 Posted by AllStarSuperman (36732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

WW all rounds.

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#8 Posted by Ddecourt (919 posts) - - Show Bio

A depowered Diana would still kick Raven's ass.

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#9 Posted by ImmortalT1000 (3175 posts) - - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

WW all rounds.

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#10 Posted by never give up (25000 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

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#11 Posted by robertloucksjr (2270 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

Since Diana has been reduced to Mystique's level:

Round 1: Mystique; while Diana may have Mystique's strength speed and durability, Mystique has all her usual tricks that should see her through.

Round 2: Mystique; she has hand guns and Diana (or should I say Mystique) isn't fast enough to deflect bullets.

Round 3: Mystique; more weapons in round 2 and Diana only gets a shield and X amounts of civilians she has to care about...which Mystique would use against her.

Agreed. WW with Mystique speed gets killed by skilled gunplay.

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#12 Posted by Sovereign91001 (7017 posts) - - Show Bio

Diana sweeps

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#13 Posted by Guardian_ (351 posts) - - Show Bio

@robertloucksjr said:

@Outside_85 said:

Since Diana has been reduced to Mystique's level:

Round 1: Mystique; while Diana may have Mystique's strength speed and durability, Mystique has all her usual tricks that should see her through.

Round 2: Mystique; she has hand guns and Diana (or should I say Mystique) isn't fast enough to deflect bullets.

Round 3: Mystique; more weapons in round 2 and Diana only gets a shield and X amounts of civilians she has to care about...which Mystique would use against her.

Agreed. WW with Mystique speed gets killed by skilled gunplay.

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#14 Posted by never give up (25000 posts) - - Show Bio

Give reasons guys

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#15 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (12362 posts) - - Show Bio

WW for round 1. Not sure on rounds 2 or 3.

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#16 Posted by robertloucksjr (2270 posts) - - Show Bio

Mystique has the same speed and strength as WW in this scenario, AND SHE HAS GUNS. She is very skilled with guns. She also has the ability to move vital organs around to protect them in a fight and has a decent healing factor which the scenario does not give WW. She also can disguise herself as a civilian and WW does NOT know she can do that per the scenario.

WW loses most of the matches in all the scenarios under these condition.

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#17 Posted by Nefarious (33088 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman wins all rounds. She is just....better.

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#18 Posted by New_World_Order (14895 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarioussaid:

Wonder Woman wins all rounds. She is just....better.
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#19 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (3366 posts) - - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

WW all rounds.

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#21 Posted by AnyWhichWayButUp (850 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1:WonderWoman she has more combat skill being an amazon ( barely) Round 2: Mystique the bullets have no effect but grenades just dominate. Round 3: Mystique she can camoflauge herself in the crowd and stealth kill Wonder Woman

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#22 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (14794 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 2

Diana stomps

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#23 Posted by Outside_85 (16885 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: Problem is that Diana isn't even on the physical level of a normal Amazon, she's on Mystiques level, which as far as I know is only slightly above human before you add all the shapshifting tricks.

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#24 Posted by SNascimento (450 posts) - - Show Bio

@AnyWhichWayButUp said:

Round 1:WonderWoman she has more combat skill being an amazon ( barely) Round 2: Mystique the bullets have no effect but grenades just dominate. Round 3: Mystique she can camoflauge herself in the crowd and stealth kill Wonder Woman

Mystique is that good in H2H?

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#25 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (14794 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Problem is that Diana isn't even on the physical level of a normal Amazon, she's on Mystiques level, which as far as I know is only slightly above human before you add all the shapshifting tricks.

doesn't matter, her skill level remains the same, her reaction speed is in her muscle memory, so it stays the same. Thats all she needs in round 1 since it is only h2h, that rule doesn't only apply to wonder woman. Round 2 and 3, wonder woman has magic ............. game over

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#26 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (12362 posts) - - Show Bio

@SNascimento said:

@AnyWhichWayButUp said:

Round 1:WonderWoman she has more combat skill being an amazon ( barely) Round 2: Mystique the bullets have no effect but grenades just dominate. Round 3: Mystique she can camoflauge herself in the crowd and stealth kill Wonder Woman

Mystique is that good in H2H?

She is good but not THAT good to state that WW would barely win. WW's issue will be Raven's shape-shifting (if that is allowed in the H2H round). She can harden the surface of her skin (like make it thicker and metal like for more damaging strikes), form weapons, move her organs around to protect them from strategic strikes, etc., and that could prove problematic for Diana. If the fight is based on pure skill, WW would win a solid marojority IMO.

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#27 Posted by dondave (41453 posts) - - Show Bio

WW all rounds

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#28 Posted by logy5000 (6842 posts) - - Show Bio

WW easily.

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#29 Posted by jackofspades (1874 posts) - - Show Bio

@robertloucksjr said:

Mystique has the same speed and strength as WW in this scenario, AND SHE HAS GUNS. She is very skilled with guns. She also has the ability to move vital organs around to protect them in a fight and has a decent healing factor which the scenario does not give WW. She also can disguise herself as a civilian and WW does NOT know she can do that per the scenario.

WW loses most of the matches in all the scenarios under these condition.

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#30 Posted by Outside_85 (16885 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: Unfortunately for Diana it does matter, because huamans cant move their limbs faster than a flying bullet.

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#31 Posted by robertloucksjr (2270 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Unfortunately for Diana it does matter, because huamans cant move their limbs faster than a flying bullet.

Yes, and she won't be able to see the bullet either.

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#32 Posted by AnyWhichWayButUp (850 posts) - - Show Bio

@SNascimento:

Yeah well at least tv and movie versions but she holds her own from what ive seen. She was an assassin so i figure she has to have some pretty good skills like anyone else.

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#33 Posted by SNascimento (450 posts) - - Show Bio

@AnyWhichWayButUp:

That is what I think too. But the thing is Diana is not everyone else. She has legendary godlike skills.

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#34 Posted by Lady_Liberty (10703 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Unfortunately for Diana it does matter, because huamans cant move their limbs faster than a flying bullet.

Real life humans cannot but comic book humans don't have any problems dodging bullets.

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#35 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (14794 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Unfortunately for Diana it does matter, because huamans cant move their limbs faster than a flying bullet.

fail......

fail

Anyway......your post made absolutely no sense, obviously you didn't read my post.

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@Outside_85 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Problem is that Diana isn't even on the physical level of a normal Amazon, she's on Mystiques level, which as far as I know is only slightly above human before you add all the shapshifting tricks.

doesn't matter, her skill level remains the same, her reaction speed is in her muscle memory, so it stays the same. Thats all she needs in round 1 since it is only h2h, that rule doesn't only apply to wonder woman. Round 2 and 3, wonder woman has magic ............. game over

Round one Mistyque has NO GUNS, Round 2 Wonder Woman has MAGIC, her bracers can create a force field around where the attack is

Meaning bullets or not, she ain getting shot. Also she has magic lighting which is faster than bullets, Wonder Woman stomps

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#36 Posted by Outside_85 (16885 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: Actually I did read you post, it just wasn't correct. And just because Batman and Ozymandias has done it (which they cant do consistently or repeatedly) doesnt mean everyone can do it. Round one Mystique has far better agility, and retains her shapeshifting powers, plus she is used to going up against bricks with H2H skills aka. Wolverine, Diana will just fall over easier because she doesnt regenerate. From the looks of things, the blast of lightning (which is an oddity since Simone was the only one to use it) is only of use when the target is close. As for the Aegis; by your scan, one might be fooled into thinking it was the same as Captain America's shield...which automatically makes shooters IQ's drop with about 50, stopping them from shooting at the parts that's not shielded; legs.