Wolverine vs Cassandra Cain (H2H)

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- Wolverine (Bone claw)

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- Cassandra Cain
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- Location: 
- Standard dojo.
- Start 10ft apart.
 
- Rules:
- Morals apply.
- Random encounter.
- Standard elimination rules apply.
- No equipment.
- This is bone claw Wolverine. No adamantium.
- Strictly H2H.
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#2  Edited By Dex_Starr

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor.  He should be able to outlast her. 

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#3  Edited By slick23

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor. He should be able to outlast her.

she can nerve strike him and knock im out, no?

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#4  Edited By Kimota

Wolverine, hands down.

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#5  Edited By Dex_Starr
@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor. He should be able to outlast her.

she can nerve strike him and knock im out, no?

Wolverine has an extensive knowledge of nerve strikes as well so it's kind of a double edged sword. 
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#6  Edited By Erik

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor. He should be able to outlast her.

she can nerve strike him and knock im out, no?

No. Wolverine has consistently recovered immediately from nerve strikes.

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#7  Edited By difficlus

Healing Factor is the trump card here. Its even better without adamantuim. PIS/Jobber aura off wolverine should be capable of holding himself otherwise.

@Hohenheim_of_light: Could he heal from them? Or does he have resistance? Cain uses them far more frequently like he's been shown to. In fat she stopped a man's heart with a punch once and restarted it with another one.

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#8  Edited By slick23

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor. He should be able to outlast her.

she can nerve strike him and knock im out, no?

Wolverine has an extensive knowledge of nerve strikes as well so it's kind of a double edged sword.

Thats true, how good is wolvie on H2H? Batgirl is pretty damn dangerous, and is easily top 10 in DC Universe. how bout wolvie?

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#9  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Wolverine's healing factor takes care of nerve strikes.

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#10  Edited By Dex_Starr
@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor. He should be able to outlast her.

she can nerve strike him and knock im out, no?

Wolverine has an extensive knowledge of nerve strikes as well so it's kind of a double edged sword.

Thats true, how good is wolvie on H2H? Batgirl is pretty damn dangerous, and is easily top 10 in DC Universe. how bout wolvie?

He's in the top 10 in Marvel, possibly top five but at least top 10.  He's definitely in the same league as Bruce Wayne is.  I wouldn't say he's as good as Cassandra is but he can definitely contend with her, on top of his regeneration he should get a win. 
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#11  Edited By ssejllenrad

Skill-wise, I'd say Cass. But Wolverine's got this healing factor. Hard choice.... Cass can't use stealth cause of Wolvie's nose. But since morals apply, Wolvie's gone a bit soft these days. So the playing field is even again...

5/10 for each.

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#12  Edited By slick23

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor. He should be able to outlast her.

she can nerve strike him and knock im out, no?

Wolverine has an extensive knowledge of nerve strikes as well so it's kind of a double edged sword.

Thats true, how good is wolvie on H2H? Batgirl is pretty damn dangerous, and is easily top 10 in DC Universe. how bout wolvie?

He's in the top 10 in Marvel, possibly top five but at least top 10. He's definitely in the same league as Bruce Wayne is. I wouldn't say he's as good as Cassandra is but he can definitely contend with her, on top of his regeneration he should get a win.

I see, the thing is, TC didnt say if its win by KO, or fight to death.. I think Cass can KO wolvie fast enough that she wont have to tire out and eventually lose to logans healing powers, but if its drags on to a long fight, batgirl lose.

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#13  Edited By Dex_Starr
@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor. He should be able to outlast her.

she can nerve strike him and knock im out, no?

Wolverine has an extensive knowledge of nerve strikes as well so it's kind of a double edged sword.

Thats true, how good is wolvie on H2H? Batgirl is pretty damn dangerous, and is easily top 10 in DC Universe. how bout wolvie?

He's in the top 10 in Marvel, possibly top five but at least top 10. He's definitely in the same league as Bruce Wayne is. I wouldn't say he's as good as Cassandra is but he can definitely contend with her, on top of his regeneration he should get a win.

I see, the thing is, TC didnt say if its win by KO, or fight to death.. I think Cass can KO wolvie fast enough that she wont have to tire out and eventually lose to logans healing powers, but if its drags on to a long fight, batgirl lose.

The problem is that Wolverine is also going to land hits and will probably do more damage because of his claws then vice versa, damage that Wolverine can recover from but Cassandra can't right away. 
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#14  Edited By difficlus

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@slick23 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor. He should be able to outlast her.

she can nerve strike him and knock im out, no?

Wolverine has an extensive knowledge of nerve strikes as well so it's kind of a double edged sword.

Thats true, how good is wolvie on H2H? Batgirl is pretty damn dangerous, and is easily top 10 in DC Universe. how bout wolvie?

He's in the top 10 in Marvel, possibly top five but at least top 10. He's definitely in the same league as Bruce Wayne is. I wouldn't say he's as good as Cassandra is but he can definitely contend with her, on top of his regeneration he should get a win.

I see, the thing is, TC didnt say if its win by KO, or fight to death.. I think Cass can KO wolvie fast enough that she wont have to tire out and eventually lose to logans healing powers, but if its drags on to a long fight, batgirl lose.

The problem is that Wolverine is also going to land hits and will probably do more damage because of his claws then vice versa, damage that Wolverine can recover from but Cassandra can't right away.

Cassandra cain is very hard to tag, even with metahuman speed. She's basically like him fighting Mr X again...She's also very smart and quickly learns new techniques in battle. Bascially since he can heal very quickly the battle will drag on until Cain loses. In terms of endurance she's fought off mad dog with a knife in her heart.

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Wolverine wins without too much trouble.

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#16  Edited By difficlus

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Wolverine wins without too much trouble.

come on...

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#17  Edited By difficlus

@ssejllenrad said:

Skill-wise, I'd say Cass. But Wolverine's got this healing factor. Hard choice.... Cass can't use stealth cause of Wolvie's nose. But since morals apply, Wolvie's gone a bit soft these days. So the playing field is even again...

5/10 for each.

i could also see it going either way...

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#18  Edited By slick23

Yeah, this is a really good even fight tbh.

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#19  Edited By Dex_Starr
@venomoushatred1001 said:

Wolverine wins without too much trouble.

Too far
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In skill Cassy outclasses him;however she would lose because of the guy's insane healing factor.She would tire while he would not.

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@difficlus said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Wolverine wins without too much trouble.

come on...

What, her nerve strikes have no effect on him, and it'll only be a matter of time before he tags her with his claws.

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@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Wolverine wins without too much trouble.

Too far

Alright, he wins with difficulty.

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Why are people bringing up Logan using his claws? This is strictly h2h.

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#24  Edited By difficlus

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@difficlus said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Wolverine wins without too much trouble.

come on...

What, her nerve strikes have no effect on him, and it'll only be a matter of time before he tags her with his claws.

She can find a way, nerve strikes aren't her only method..

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@_slim_: But he does retain his healing factor ?
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@difficlus said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@difficlus said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Wolverine wins without too much trouble.

come on...

What, her nerve strikes have no effect on him, and it'll only be a matter of time before he tags her with his claws.

She can find a way, nerve strikes aren't her only method..

Define these other methods.

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#27  Edited By Dex_Starr
@_slim_ said:
Why are people bringing up Logan using his claws? This is strictly h2h.
He should still be able to outlast her.
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@Maxwell Lord the fourth said:
@_slim_: But he does retain his healing factor ?
Yes.
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#29  Edited By difficlus

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@difficlus said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@difficlus said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Wolverine wins without too much trouble.

come on...

What, her nerve strikes have no effect on him, and it'll only be a matter of time before he tags her with his claws.

She can find a way, nerve strikes aren't her only method..

Define these other methods.

idk use whats around, impaling, punches strong enough to crush a skull, breaking his bones and joints. Its going to be a tough battle though.

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@_slim_ said:
Why are people bringing up Logan using his claws? This is strictly h2h.
He should still be able to outlast her.

Don't think by then she could find away around his HF?

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@_slim_: Then as I said she loses despite having better skills than him;he will just keep coming back while she will tire;and thus he will eventually get her.
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@difficlus said:

@_slim_ said:

Why are people bringing up Logan using his claws? This is strictly h2h.

ooo. Well then its probably up to cass...very slim win

I could see it going either way.
 
@Hohenheim_of_light said:
@_slim_ said:
Why are people bringing up Logan using his claws? This is strictly h2h.
He should still be able to outlast her.

No doubt he has the edge in the endurance. I just wanted to let people know he's not using his claws in this match.
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#32  Edited By difficlus

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@_slim_: Then as I said she loses despite having better skills than him;he will just keep coming back while she will tire;and thus he will eventually get her.

to be fair the short distance in skill is met with his speed. Wolverine on a good day, good writer is pretty beast. Its a shame his fighting skills varies between the thousands of books hie's featured in. His character is nerfed/dumbed down and used as a scapegoat simply because writers knows he's healing factor will get him through anything.

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@difficlus: I did not say he was a complete amateur;it is just that I feel that Cassy is better than him in skill;but that does not mean that Logan is a dilettante .Plus to me his speed can be negated by her bodylanguage reading skill.
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#34  Edited By difficlus

@Maxwell Lord the fourth said:

@difficlus: I did not say he was a complete amateur;it is just that I feel that Cassy is better than him in skill;but that does not mean that Logan is a dilettante .Plus to me his speed can be negated by her bodylanguage reading skill.

i know thats not what you're saying.

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#36  Edited By saiyan_earthling

Wolverine. Due to his age, he has the experience and was able to learn almost every martial art there is. His main reason for winning would be his healing factor.

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#37  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Cass hasnt been a supreme level badass for a few years now.

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@Gambler: She doesn't even exist anymore apparently...
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#39  Edited By Mercy_

@Maxwell Lord the fourth said:

@Gambler: She doesn't even exist anymore apparently...

Yes, she does.

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#41  Edited By Mercy_

@Maxwell Lord the fourth said:

@The Dark Huntress: Oh;I missed that then;where ?

Just because she hasn't appeared yet doesn't mean she doesn't exist.

Gail Simone has already said that Cass and/or Steph will be making appearances in Batgirl, providing it doesn't conflict with any possible future plans concerning the two of them.

And since Steph is Spoiler again, it's quite possible that it's gonna be Cass.

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#42  Edited By The_Ghostshell
@Maxwell Lord the fourth said:
@Gambler: She doesn't even exist anymore apparently...
Right? F the DCNU. Seriously though, if Shiva and Cass are gone it'll be pretty disappointing. Although I'm already on record as saying this new direction/revised Universe wont last. May take a year, may take several, but eventually it'll get scrapped.
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@The Dark Huntress: Oh ok;well since the new 52 Batgirl holds no interest to me I do not read the interviews about it nor read it;but if Cassy is still here that's good news.She no longer existing was one f my only problems with the new 52;now there just remains the fates of Wally West and Power Girl(and not just as Karen Starr;Mister Terrific' friend with benefits)
@Gambler: Well I do mostly like the new universe;aside of course from the missing characters I mentionned and the Jim Lee redesigns.
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#44  Edited By Dex_Starr

@Gambler said:

@Maxwell Lord the fourth said:
@Gambler: She doesn't even exist anymore apparently...
Right? F the DCNU. Seriously though, if Shiva and Cass are gone it'll be pretty disappointing. Although I'm already on record as saying this new direction/revised Universe wont last. May take a year, may take several, but eventually it'll get scrapped.

Action comics was pretty good.

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@Hohenheim_of_light: Yup and So are Swampthing and Animal Man;Snyder and Lemire are knocking it out the park with those.
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#46  Edited By KainScion

wolverine is far more skilled than batgirl. he can fight with the best of them and can win. he took out shang chi easily and i think he is far more skilled than cass. logan's a very good fighter but recently he has become sorry to say reliant on HF. for a real showing of his skill, read Wolverine - Manifest Destiny. his HF cant cope with the powers of 4-5 superpowered chinese guys and he goes back to basics (basics not some fighting style) and he takes them down.

i think logan can win 10/10.

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#47  Edited By Aphile

@Dex_Starr:

Wolverine's martial arts skills are rated 7 (meaning, master of all form of fighting) and he is in the Marvel top 7 for sword fighting skills, the skill difference between the two shouldn't be too far, but with other Logan's abilities he has over her, he should win this fight. Well, 7/10 probably

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#48  Edited By Strider1992

If their stats were equal i'd say Cassandra would beat him but due to Wolverines healing factor etc... Logan wins. If he didn't have a healing factor Cass could take him.

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#49  Edited By Aphile

@Strider92:

Good point, but how would Cassandra beat Logan even if he didn't have his healing factor?

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#50  Edited By Jayfournines

@Dex_Starr said:

Wolverine stills has an insane regeneration factor. He should be able to outlast her.

I agree with this and give it to Wolverine