Who's the strongest that a bloodlusted Wally West can beat?

I'm genuinely curious. What is the absolutely strongest character/entity a fully powered, bloodlusted Flash can beat.

Battle conditions:

-Indestructable planet

-Morals off

Better question is who can't he beat???

CV flash is faster than omnipotent

but it should stop at someone under silver surfer imo

World Breaker Hulk

shaman x-man.... a person he can't beat

Batman with prep

@homicidalmaniac said:

@ssj_god said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Better question is who can't he beat???

shaman x-man.... a person he can't beat

yeah yeah... anyone can come at me.. even comic vine version of wally west won't beat him... wally can't handle the versatility

Speed feats for Shaman X-Man??

Silver Surfer sounds about right.

he does not need to be faster than wally to beat him (although, his though process is mftl).. wally simply can't harm him.

Wally will just steal his speed then in 4-5 attoseconds

and his psionic self would come out from the stopped body.... and he will create another body for himself after he tk crushes wally

He'll be a statue to wally so he's not creating anything

Deathbattle Supes

Everyone mentioned so far. Shaman Nate he could either bfr to the end of existance or speed steal him in his psionic energy form. Norrin and Hulk he just knocks the **** out.

As for who's the strongest character he could defeat it depends on the circumstances/variables.

He just can't seem to win over all the trolls that create spite threads and willfully remain ignorant of his powers.

if his body stops.. his psionic self (a body created with pure psionic energy) will come out from his body..... he will tk crush wally.. then afterwards, he creates another body for himself.. or gets the stopped one moving with telekinesis.

I don't know, Golden Freeza?

@supermanwithatan01: Circumstances are an empty, indestructable planet, bloodlust on and no morals. And i hope you're not implying that this is a spite thread??

It's not in character for Wally to speed steal, speed dump or hit someone with 1 million + IMPs. It's all completely out of character and would never actually happen in a fight.

Silver Surfer one shots.

Odin by Comic Vine`s consensus.

black flash (death) ran himself (or rather overran) to the end of the existence.... flash didn't bfred him.. and besides.. nate is a way more powerful time manipulator than flash.. so he'd have more control even if any fight happens within going through time..... so that's out of the question

flash can't speed steal pure energy

ahhh :) someone who knows a little something about Nate grey

How can that happen to somebody who could take a nap between attoseconds? After Wally steals X-Man's speed, he won't even be able to think fast enough to release his psychic self. And, if he does, Wally simply steals it's speed too.

Upper level magical entities who's powers and perception aren't rooted in physical science?

CV flash simply gives 10000000000 IMPs, Speed force dump in an attosecond.

Gg spectre.

@buttersdaman000

Provide a scan of Wally performing 1,000,000+ IMP attacks.

the psionic self gets out automatically.... wally can't stop it... and nate doesn't have to 'think' to do it.....

i don't see what wally's speed have to do with telekinesis.. unless you don't know what telekinesis is

wally can't speed steal a pure energy.

@neongamewave: No, not even close. By the fanboy consensus maybe, but they don't matter that much.

Thanos-skyfather

so much salt.

@ssj_god: Wally has used the speed steal on radio waves and Zeta beams. Its not just "kinetic energy" it's a deeper power than that. He's also grabbed a pure energy being before. It'll work just fine. He BFRing Death was a lot more difficult than carrying Nate and throwing him would be.

Edit: also Wally's a much more accomplished time traveler than Nate; incidentally whose weakness is being overloaded with energy, in which Wally has done to multiple characters and he has an infinite power source.

i've never read a flash comic. how would odin do against flashes rogues gallery? would he be in trouble?

@kute: he'd stomp most effortlessly. He's have a hard time with zoom and ptofessor zoom.

Thanos would crush Wally.

PreRe Beyonder.

flash can hit you with thousands of exploding stars in a second. even galactus would be threatened here. flash would crush odin, and beat average galactus. fully fed galactus might make a fight of it though

nup.. holding an energy being isn't gonna cut here... wally speed steal kinetic energy.. and pure energies doesn't have it.... assuming won't help.. unless he have done it.. you can't assume

the black flash self bfred himself... wally won't be faster through timeline.. nate can control time better... and if flash goes to the end of the time himself.. he gets erased too (no.. he didn't go there.. he stopped right before it).... as i said.. it's out of the question.

@kute: Flash would be like a bug to Galactus. Stop. This wank has gotten out of hand.

yeah.. he's one of my favorite characters..... and on this topic... i love how i can irritate flash fans with him (i've done it so many times till now, that i lost count)....lol.. his abilities are. like custom made for flash.. XD

Trolling/lol

Not trolling. You've seen the scans. Who can tank infinite exploding stars arriving faster than anyone can percieve? I don't really know of anybody.

HAHAHAHAHA

Everything is made of matter. And energy. Theyre almost one in the same according to science.

Maybe but they need speed feats

What's "automatically" to somebody who can do 10 billion IMPs in 7 attoseconds?

I do know what TK is, but Nate doesn't have the speed to even activate it before he gets lit up

Yes he can. He's used it on radio waves.

He can casually move within a picosecond so that's proof enough

@ssj_god: Lol as I said, it's not just stealing kinetic energy, it's stealing speed. Wally can and had done it to pure energy and he has physically grabbed pure energy beings. As a matter of fact, he's grabbed one out of a black hole. You don't have to like a feat for it to be legit. His bout with the Black Flash was a clever idea, you're saying that just because be didn't grav a being that IS death and throw it to entropy, he couldn't do so to Nate? I disagree.

In any event, it doesn't matter I'm not hear to debate who wins, just debunk some misconceptions.

@20damon: I don't believe this is a spite thread but if the point of it was to find out what Wally's upper limits are, what his powers are and why he's so powerful, then there are other threads with far more knowledgeable viners explaining those things. If it's merely to see trolls spam a Wally West thread then yes, I'd say that's spite. Either way, this has been done before more than once.

@supermanwithatan01: Genuine curiosity to see who people believe is the strongest one Wally can beat. There'll be trolls in every thread. It's not made as a spite thread in the least.

@supermanwithatan01 said:

dude.. have he ever stole speed of a pure energy?.. straight answer.. becoz holding and speed stealing are two different things... as wally steals kinetic energy... scientifically.. it's not possible to steal kinetic energy of which doesn't have kinetic energy.

and no.. he can't do it.. because one.. he can grab and go there himself (otherwise he'd be out of existence himself) .. and second.. he doesn't have feats to through anyone through time (the person have to go through a small bit of time after he throws).. and nate would be faster than flash in timeline ... because he 'controls' time better

flash can't do anything to nate

da fuq.... do you have problem with understanding words?.. i said, his psionic self automatically comes out from his body, if his body stops.. what does that have to do anything with wally?

i'm talking about after nate gets hit.. or wally tries something (which obviously doesn't effect nate)

radio waves... which is not a pure energy.. i don't see the point.