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#1 Posted by TJSH96 (937 posts) - - Show Bio

Who would be more intelligent out of The One Above All and characters like Brainiac 5, Lex Luthor, Reed Richards, Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, Galactus, The Watcher and other intelligent characters. I've always thought that The One Above All is only unlimited in-terms of strength, speed, durability and destructive capacity, but how does he compare in terms of intelligence? Who is the most intelligent fictional character ever, out of all of them?

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#2 Posted by Blood_Red_Rage (513 posts) - - Show Bio

The One Above All is omniscient. That means it is all knowing of everything that was, is and will be. It is all knowledge that exists, it knows literally everything there is. Absolutely nothing is hidden from the One Above All, all those other characters don't even have close to the same level of intelligence. The One Above All is absolute and knows all. All knowledge and intelligence belongs to the One Above All. It isn't even a comparison.

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#3 Posted by TJSH96 (937 posts) - - Show Bio

In terms of how advanced TOAA is, how does he compare? Sure TOAA is has unlimited strength, speed, endurance, durability and destructive capacity, but how advanced is he?

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#4 Posted by Blood_Red_Rage (513 posts) - - Show Bio

@tjsh96: It is an all knowing and all powerful god, nothing is above it. I wouldn't use the word advanced for TOAA as it doesn't need technology. Everything that exists is apart of the TOAA as its creation. Every individual mind is a part of the TOAA. TOAA is all, there is no comparison.

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#5 Posted by Shavo (2199 posts) - - Show Bio

i don't think the guy who created the entire marvel-verse would create someone who is smarter than him...

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#6 Posted by Batman242 (6390 posts) - - Show Bio

The Presence. They're basically two sides of the same coin.

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#7 Posted by dondave (41308 posts) - - Show Bio

The One Above All is omniscient. That means it is all knowing of everything that was, is and will be. It is all knowledge that exists, it knows literally everything there is. Absolutely nothing is hidden from the One Above All, all those other characters don't even have close to the same level of intelligence. The One Above All is absolute and knows all. All knowledge and intelligence belongs to the One Above All. It isn't even a comparison.

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#8 Edited by GhostRavage (13147 posts) - - Show Bio

I think you are misunderstanding what TOAA actually is... TOAA is the only omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent being of the Marvel-verse.... He is not only unlimited in physical areas but in abstract areas aswell... Just by having the 3 big O's makes him incomparable with other characters of Marvel. He doesn't need intellect because he has omniscience. He knows everything about everything... About the past, the present and the future without a flaw.

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#9 Posted by TJSH96 (937 posts) - - Show Bio

@blood_red_rage:

So is The One Above All more intelligent than even the likes of Reed Richards, Tony Stark and heck even Brainiac 5 who has a 12'th level intellect?!

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#10 Posted by TJSH96 (937 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghostravage:

Are you sure? I mean, in the DC comics it's well established that a 12'th level intellect is the highest level of intellect anything can achieve and that's what Brainiac 5 is. Are you sure The One Above All is more intelligent and has higher intellect than Brainiac 5, because it shouldn't be possible.

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#11 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4766 posts) - - Show Bio

@tjsh96: ...yes. TOAA is perfect in all aspects.

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#12 Edited by GhostRavage (13147 posts) - - Show Bio

@tjsh96: He can't be measured... He doesn't belong to any kind of classification because he's indeed omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. Intellect its a limit, and an entity like TOAA has no limits. In fact, its assumable that Intellect is given to the other characters from him. All the Marvel-verse is his creation, so everything is below him in every aspect, and no one will never be able to be above him. You should look him as an unkillable Queen in a chess board full of peons.

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#13 Posted by Rick_Grayson (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

There's a bunch of different gods used in all of the comics, but think of TOAA as THE god, as we know it today, all knowing and all powerful.

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#14 Edited by Dredeuced (6355 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA is literally the Author's self insert in the comic. It's not even an actual character, more a representation of the people who control everything that happens in the Marvel universe. That's why TOAA> Presence, as the Presence actually IS a character that is subject to DC's whims.

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#15 Posted by ComicStooge (21562 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA is literally the Author's self insert in the comic. It's not even an actual character, more a representation of the people who control everything that happens in the Marvel universe. That's why TOAA> Presence, as the Presence actually IS a character that is subject to DC's whims.

Does that mean to have a fair fight with him, it'd have to be an actual fist fight between the writers of a comicbook?

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#16 Posted by Dredeuced (6355 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: You vs the entirety of The Walt Disney Company.

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#17 Posted by KingOfAsh (3935 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced said:

TOAA is literally the Author's self insert in the comic. It's not even an actual character, more a representation of the people who control everything that happens in the Marvel universe. That's why TOAA> Presence, as the Presence actually IS a character that is subject to DC's whims.

Yet it wasn't Jack Kirby or Stan Lee that put themselves as The One Above All; it was a later writer/artist.

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#18 Edited by ComicStooge (21562 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced said:

@comicstooge: You vs the entirety of The Walt Disney Company.

For some reason I had an image in my head of a bunch of burly guys in Goofy masks beating me up.

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#19 Posted by JohnnyZ256 (5237 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe my intelligence isn't high enough, but could someone please tell me how this qualifies as a battle?