Vulcan vs.Green Lantern

" @Johnny_Nemesis said:

" @Fresh Prince said:

" @Johnny_Nemesis said:

Magic =/= plasma

So magic=energy? I'm just saying he was able to manipulate it and you said Vulcan couldn't mess with something unless it was energy. "

Who said anything about energy? I said magic =/= a GL construct

I was just pointing out that he was able to manipulate something that wasn't energy. I said it right there. "

you intire arguement hinges on you believing vulcan to being a lower level  energy manipulator he has shown he can manipulate energys otherscouldnt when fighting warlock , hes power is credited as omega so he you cant say for sure what he cant do unless you told he cant. Like all omegas he has the potential to use his power in anyways he sees fit

Has Vulcan ever created a universe? No he hasnt...I'm not saying Vulcan is a low level energy manipulator, just that hes weak compared to ones GL's have fought...being omega level means $hit..omega level mutants get beat all the time by beings less powerful then GL

Didn't you say earlier that Vulcan stated that magic is an exotic kind of energy?  "

also in my post wikipedia link staetmeent i also said that vulcan could use energy to overload and destroy the plamsa construct if he doenshe defintaly could just absorb the construct  thou

" also in my post wikipedia link staetmeent i also said that vulcan could use energy to overload and destroy the plamsa construct if he doenshe defintaly could just absorb the construct  thou "

" @Johnny_Nemesis said:

Didn't you say earlier that Vulcan stated that magic is an exotic kind of energy?  "

Yes I did but it obviously would be much harder to manipulate magic than it would be to manipulate the energy in plasma. lazystudent explained that plasma does need energy and sh!t so why can't he manipulate that? "

Why would he have to try manipulating the constructs though? The ring itself runs on energy and needs to be charged.

" Why would he have to try manipulating the constructs though? The ring itself runs on energy and needs to be charged. "

 
heat, force, and electricity Lanterns have fought that before
what else has he got?
 
GL shields protect against telepathics and telekenetic attacks

The simple fact is that energy manipulators far more powerful then Vulcan have failed to control Lantern constructs..Vulcan sure as hell isnt going to be able to do it..nor can he siphon energy from a pocket dimension

" @Fresh Prince said:

" Why would he have to try manipulating the constructs though? The ring itself runs on energy and needs to be charged. "

Vulcan will be dead looong before the ring needs to be charged again ... "

your not listening to reason here the hit form superman is pyshcial force vulcan , doenst use pyshcial force to break down the constructs he breaks them down internally via breaking the bonds which hold said construct together cant nothing survive being broken down internaly in such  a way , as far as iam aware knowbody has even tried to do this to a lantern construct and vulcan is 100% able to do it in terms of the science behind it

" @Johnny_Nemesis said:

" @Fresh Prince said:

" Why would he have to try manipulating the constructs though? The ring itself runs on energy and needs to be charged. "

Vulcan will be dead looong before the ring needs to be charged again ... "

That's not a valid point, just what you THINK would hapen, but have nothing to back that up! Vulcan got vaporized by BB, then rebuilt himself, and came back, yet he's simply gonna be dead by a GL (that uses ENERGY constructs) before he can do anything? Sorry, don't see anthing you've stated as valid or even remotely happening. "

" your not listening to reason here the hit form superman is pyshcial force vulcan , doenst use pyshcial force to break down the constructs he breaks them down internally via breaking the bonds which hold said construct together cant nothing survive being broken down internaly in such  a way "

" @Fresh Prince said:

" Why would he have to try manipulating the constructs though? The ring itself runs on energy and needs to be charged. "

Vulcan will be dead looong before the ring needs to be charged again ... "

" @Johnny_Nemesis said:

" @Fresh Prince said:

" Why would he have to try manipulating the constructs though? The ring itself runs on energy and needs to be charged. "

Vulcan will be dead looong before the ring needs to be charged again ... "

How exactly would Vulcan get put down so easily? His shields are definitely strong enough to block multiple shots from any GL. And I'm not saying that the ring needs to be charged, but he could weaken and lower the rings power level. "

so you think the constructs  althought made of sub atomic particles as i proved earlier cant be manipulated and borken down by someone who controls all forms of energy have you ever had a science lesson ? , its not a question of if it cna be done ist a simple fact that it can the constructs need internal energy to form otherwise they wouldnt havea form lol

His shields weren't strong enough to stop Gladiator from knocking his ass out...

" so you think the constructs  althought made of sub atomic particles as i proved earlier cant be manipulated and borken down by someone who controls all forms of energy have you ever had a science lesson ? , its not a question of if it cna be done ist a simple fact that it can the constructs need internal energy to form otherwise they wouldnt havea form lol "

BTW, I never said Vulcan would win. I was reaching a couple of times here. I just think Vulcan doesn't get much respect here and he wouldn't go down easily against a Lantern.

i have a master in forensic chemistry lol , and plasma is just another state of matter vulcan has manipulated  solid liquid and gas so he can manipulate plasma simple as that.. Its not the same  arguemnet at all to what you said ,your just saying the constructs cant be broken when knowbody has ever down what i have mentioned and all scientific evidence proves that its well within the relms of  possibility.
 
This also excludes the omage factor that means he can if he goes for it preety much do as he please with hes power

" BTW, I never said Vulcan would win. I was reaching a couple of times here. I just think Vulcan doesn't get much respect here and he wouldn't go down easily against a Lantern. "

GL thanks to his speed. He don't need any other power...

"It comes down to if Vulcan can affect his EP output. If he can't handle it, then any Vetran can put him down, if he does. Then everyone excepting Sodam, or Hal, or anyone who relies solely on the ring is going down. "

" @Emerald_General_Jai said:

"It comes down to if Vulcan can affect his EP output. If he can't handle it, then any Vetran can put him down, if he does. Then everyone excepting Sodam, or Hal, or anyone who relies solely on the ring is going down. "

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" @Stormultt said:

" @Emerald_General_Jai said:

"It comes down to if Vulcan can affect his EP output. If he can't handle it, then any Vetran can put him down, if he does. Then everyone excepting Sodam, or Hal, or anyone who relies solely on the ring is going down. "

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Be quiet "

" @Johnny_Nemesis said:

" @Stormultt said:

" @Emerald_General_Jai said:

"It comes down to if Vulcan can affect his EP output. If he can't handle it, then any Vetran can put him down, if he does. Then everyone excepting Sodam, or Hal, or anyone who relies solely on the ring is going down. "

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Be quiet "

Please shutup. "

vulcan could drain/ manipulate the energy that powers the rings/batteries. 

" @Stormultt said:

" @Johnny_Nemesis said:

" @Stormultt said:

" @Emerald_General_Jai said:

"It comes down to if Vulcan can affect his EP output. If he can't handle it, then any Vetran can put him down, if he does. Then everyone excepting Sodam, or Hal, or anyone who relies solely on the ring is going down. "

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Be quiet "

Please shutup. "

No u "

" @Johnny_Nemesis said:

" @Stormultt said:

" @Johnny_Nemesis said:

" @Stormultt said:

" @Emerald_General_Jai said:

"It comes down to if Vulcan can affect his EP output. If he can't handle it, then any Vetran can put him down, if he does. Then everyone excepting Sodam, or Hal, or anyone who relies solely on the ring is going down. "

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Be quiet "

Please shutup. "

No u "

No ya mama, Anway i think vulcan could take the win since like in every issue of WOK he pulled out a new trick and yes he could also possibly drain the energy right from the ring rendering its user absolutely powerless. "

"It comes down to if Vulcan can affect his EP output. If he can't handle it, then any Vetran can put him down, if he does. Then everyone excepting Sodam, or Hal, or anyone who relies solely on the ring is going down. "

I'm going with Vulcan

@nathaniel_adam: Did you really have to bump have 6 years old thread?