New-52 Superman against SSJ4 vegeta. Supes get destroyed horribly.
YUUUP!
To be fair though Vegeta can't get to SSJ4 without help, but SSJ3 would still be more than sufficient. While New-52 Supes has good strength due to the Bench Pressing feat, his durability and Speed are still relatively poor.
New-52 Superman against SSJ4 vegeta. Supes get destroyed horribly.
YUUUP!
To be fair though Vegeta can't get to SSJ4 without help, but SSJ3 would still be more than sufficient. While New-52 Supes has good strength due to the Bench Pressing feat, his durability and Speed are still relatively poor.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Superman is fast in the sense of flight and acceleration. Vegeta is a combatant and is faster in fighting, plus his power trumps Supermans strength.
Vegeta could dodge Frieza deathbeams which were not FTL, but massively hypersonic as Piccolo with a PL of over 1 million couldn't see it right past him, and that was Frieza Saga.....
Vegeta can survive in space for a set amount of time, sorry Superman loses.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Superman is fast in the sense of flight and acceleration. Vegeta is a combatant and is faster in fighting, plus his power trumps Supermans strength.
Vegeta could dodge Frieza deathbeams which were not FTL, but massively hypersonic as Piccolo with a PL of over 1 million couldn't see it right past him, and that was Frieza Saga.....
Vegeta can survive in space for a set amount of time, sorry Superman loses.
Power Levels don't work in fights. That is the power measuring thing for one universe, doesn't tranfer over.
No, tell me one time he has. It was during filler arcs, and wasn't written in the actual manga, which is the only canon thing.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
No. Superman is not blitzing Vegeta, Superman only goes FTL through accelerating
He cannot fight at the rate he travels.
Vegeta is a martial artist, and packs enough striking power to put Superman down. Vegeta regularly fights in speedblitz in base form, anything st SSj2 or above is a stomp.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
Oh yes because Kid Goku can survive lightning which 6 times hotter then the sun, but Vegeta gets beat by heatvision which Wonder Woman tanks without difficulty.
Superman has yet to surpass Master Roshi's moonbusting, he dies to Vegeta.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Then don't try and debate.
They is no point in trying to debate with someone who is convinced they are right. Go read some DBZ and then come and debate with me about characters you obviously know nothing about.
@laflux: What I said is no more trolling than the thread itself. Why use a weaker verison of Superman if your not making a Spite match. Use Prime, Pre-Crisis or SA Superman and then have at it but these grudge post agaist him are getting old fast. It would actually be worth the debate.
Oh yes because Kid Goku can survive lightning which 6 times hotter then the sun, but Vegeta gets beat by heatvision which Wonder Woman tanks without difficulty.
Superman has yet to surpass Master Roshi's moonbusting, he dies to Vegeta.
he's split a moon in half, and to add in the DBZ verse the sun ultimately destroys seeing that's the route the took with Broly, and to add Goku feared of being swallowed into the sun in GT. More importantly , supes has high speed combat feeds and martial art skills, which he utilizes when necessary
in all honestly people, when debating don't strictly rely on low showings to lowball when scans exist that complete blow the PIS/ Jobbing out of the water...
in all honestly people, when debating don't strictly rely on low showings to lowball when scans exist that complete blow the PIS/ Jobbing out of the water...
Lol this X1000!!
It's exactly what's happening in the Superman vs Goku thread. Starting on the first page, someone posts high end Goku feats then completely undermines Superman and posts all the battles Superman lost to prove Goku the winner... I mean... c'mon people!
Yeah, I have to give it to Supes; faster, stronger, more durable, not balding and, unlike Vegeta, his durability doesn't come from inside. While Vegeta amps his power using everything he's got...Supes can just fly to the sun and end it.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Then don't try and debate.
They is no point in trying to debate with someone who is convinced they are right. Go read some DBZ and then come and debate with me about characters you obviously know nothing about.
1) I watched, read and re-watched every dragon ball z episode.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
Fine. Sayains can breathe in space, Bardock was in space when he confronted Frieza. Second I said his combat reaction speed is better then Superman's. He fights a Hyper-speeds all the time where there is no evidence suggesting that Superman can. People always say Superman is FTL but what they neglect to mention is how long it takes him to get to FTL. So no, he can't just speed blitz a man who is so used to ppl trying to speed blitz. Vegeta is a casual planet buster. In the sayain saga when he was about to lose to Goku, he tried to fire a Gallick Gun at the Earth, that is his weakest point in the whole series.
Vegeta is a supreme martial artist, whos skills took on all the Z-warriors at once, no problem. He is about as ruthless as it gets and has no problem killing when he needs to. Nothing Superman can throw at Vegeta will even be able to hit him due to the fact that his combat reaction speed is so high, I said this when I first got to the Vine and I will say it again, Sayains are about as powerful as they come, don't pit normal superheroes against guys who could easily destroy the planet without trying. Vegeta also trains at 200 times Earth gravity, in the beginning of the Buu Sage when aboard Babidi's ship he fought Pui Pui he was born and rised on a planet with 10 times Earth's gravity, if you read the series you know how well that turned out. Superman has no chance here. Prince Vegeta FTW!
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
Fine. Sayains can breathe in space, Bardock was in space when he confronted Frieza. Second I said his combat reaction speed is better then Superman's. He fights a Hyper-speeds all the time where there is no evidence suggesting that Superman can. People always say Superman is FTL but what they neglect to mention is how long it takes him to get to FTL. So no, he can't just speed blitz a man who is so used to ppl trying to speed blitz. Vegeta is a casual planet buster. In the sayain saga when he was about to lose to Goku, he tried to fire a Gallick Gun at the Earth, that is his weakest point in the whole series.
Vegeta is a supreme martial artist, whos skills took on all the Z-warriors at once, no problem. He is about as ruthless as it gets and has no problem killing when he needs to. Nothing Superman can throw at Vegeta will even be able to hit him due to the fact that his combat reaction speed is so high, I said this when I first got to the Vine and I will say it again, Sayains are about as powerful as they come, don't pit normal superheroes against guys who could easily destroy the planet without trying. Vegeta also trains at 200 times Earth gravity, in the beginning of the Buu Sage when aboard Babidi's ship he fought Pui Pui he was born and rised on a planet with 10 times Earth's gravity, if you read the series you know how well that turned out. Superman has no chance here. Prince Vegeta FTW!
1) Bardock was non canon. Also, why would Frieza say that they couldn't breathe in space? Just to freak them out?
2) Both people are bloodlusted, meaning superman will kill as well. Also, no morals.
3) Superman has no problem using speed in combat:
4) Superman could also destroy the planet if he wanted to. You seem to forget how strong he is.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
Fine. Sayains can breathe in space, Bardock was in space when he confronted Frieza. Second I said his combat reaction speed is better then Superman's. He fights a Hyper-speeds all the time where there is no evidence suggesting that Superman can. People always say Superman is FTL but what they neglect to mention is how long it takes him to get to FTL. So no, he can't just speed blitz a man who is so used to ppl trying to speed blitz. Vegeta is a casual planet buster. In the sayain saga when he was about to lose to Goku, he tried to fire a Gallick Gun at the Earth, that is his weakest point in the whole series.
Vegeta is a supreme martial artist, whos skills took on all the Z-warriors at once, no problem. He is about as ruthless as it gets and has no problem killing when he needs to. Nothing Superman can throw at Vegeta will even be able to hit him due to the fact that his combat reaction speed is so high, I said this when I first got to the Vine and I will say it again, Sayains are about as powerful as they come, don't pit normal superheroes against guys who could easily destroy the planet without trying. Vegeta also trains at 200 times Earth gravity, in the beginning of the Buu Sage when aboard Babidi's ship he fought Pui Pui he was born and rised on a planet with 10 times Earth's gravity, if you read the series you know how well that turned out. Superman has no chance here. Prince Vegeta FTW!
1) Bardock was non canon. Also, why would Frieza say that they couldn't breathe in space? Just to freak them out?
2) Both people are bloodlusted, meaning superman will kill as well. Also, no morals.
3) Superman has no problem using speed in combat:
4) Superman could also destroy the planet if he wanted to. You seem to forget how strong he is.
Thank you for providing scans to support your evidence, I believe Bardock was canon, I think there was a Manga for it if I'm not mistaken(the very beginning of Dragon Ball). I haven't forgotten how strong Superman is, I just don't think he has the kind of combat speed that Vegeta does. I don't know what Frieza was talking about, I think he said it because Goku didn't know he could breathe in space. Vegeta is morals off he just destroys the planet without hesitation. Also why would Vegeta try to destroy earth if he wouldn't survive it?
Yeah cause you presented a argument to support your calm. Shut up. Don't talk to me if your going to be immature. Then again, your probably 12 years old. So what should I expect.
Dude, I'm a Superman fan but he has no chance against Vegeta.
Seriously people stop pairing up Superheroes vs people who can destroy planets at their weakest points in the series.
Vegeta is not nearly as fast as Superman, can't breathe into space, and isn't as strong as him.
Superman has this.
Wrong. Vegeta fight at the sound of speed with out trying, his combat reaction speed it is twice that of Superman's. All Sayians can breath in space. Vegeta could blow up the planet in the Sayian Saga, This is a SSJ3 Vegeta.
Superman can go FTL, no Saiyan has went that fast. Also, Superman could speed blitz him.
Saiyans can't breathe in space, Frieza states it when he wants to blow up Namek, anytime that he has been shown was in filler, or not canon.
Doesn't matter if he can blow it up, Superman is faster and stronger than him, and would speed blitz him in the matter of nanoseconds.
Fine. Sayains can breathe in space, Bardock was in space when he confronted Frieza. Second I said his combat reaction speed is better then Superman's. He fights a Hyper-speeds all the time where there is no evidence suggesting that Superman can. People always say Superman is FTL but what they neglect to mention is how long it takes him to get to FTL. So no, he can't just speed blitz a man who is so used to ppl trying to speed blitz. Vegeta is a casual planet buster. In the sayain saga when he was about to lose to Goku, he tried to fire a Gallick Gun at the Earth, that is his weakest point in the whole series.
Vegeta is a supreme martial artist, whos skills took on all the Z-warriors at once, no problem. He is about as ruthless as it gets and has no problem killing when he needs to. Nothing Superman can throw at Vegeta will even be able to hit him due to the fact that his combat reaction speed is so high, I said this when I first got to the Vine and I will say it again, Sayains are about as powerful as they come, don't pit normal superheroes against guys who could easily destroy the planet without trying. Vegeta also trains at 200 times Earth gravity, in the beginning of the Buu Sage when aboard Babidi's ship he fought Pui Pui he was born and rised on a planet with 10 times Earth's gravity, if you read the series you know how well that turned out. Superman has no chance here. Prince Vegeta FTW!
1) Bardock was non canon. Also, why would Frieza say that they couldn't breathe in space? Just to freak them out?
2) Both people are bloodlusted, meaning superman will kill as well. Also, no morals.
3) Superman has no problem using speed in combat:
4) Superman could also destroy the planet if he wanted to. You seem to forget how strong he is.
Thank you for providing scans to support your evidence, I believe Bardock was canon, I think there was a Manga for it if I'm not mistaken(the very beginning of Dragon Ball). I haven't forgotten how strong Superman is, I just don't think he has the kind of combat speed that Vegeta does. I don't know what Frieza was talking about, I think he said it because Goku didn't know he could breathe in space. Vegeta is morals off he just destroys the planet without hesitation. Also why would Vegeta try to destroy earth if he wouldn't survive it?
Good point, however you could argue that Vegeta wasn't actually planning on destroying it.
Even if Vegeta did have faster combat speed, Superman has shown his reaction times to be amazing.
Show me feats of them blowing up planets? All they have done is stated it, and it might be true, but could they do it in an actual battle? Most likely not, I believe they could do it but it would require a long ass time to channel the power to do so and during that time they would've died 10000 times, so that cannot be used as a means to win the battle.
The thing that holds me up is the time it takes for DBZ characters to summon strength for serious attacks like a spirit bomb,,(or something similiar to destroy a planet) to say they casually destroy planets is a bold statement...I think this would be one hell of a fight though,,,in the end I'm siding with superman,,,when he lets go,,, his power can destroy the planet,,he only uses a fraction of his potential,,,this in no way is a stomp,,not even close..in fact this would be good but supermans density will really come into play
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