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#1 Edited by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio

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This is depowered Tyrant

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Morals apply

Pre 52 versions

Superman has sun dipped for 1min 30 sec before the fight

Hulk is WWH level

Wonder Woman has her sword & shield

Doomsday is in his Rex persona

Mongul Jr has his rings

Team gets 17hrs prep

Location: Apokolips

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Victory by KO, Incapacitation or Death

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#2 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (3069 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (3069 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlordeternal: I think they have more power and some have mind manipulation which they can use on certin memebers of the other team

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#5 Posted by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (3069 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlordeternal: Hluk, the lanterns, Hawkgirl, not sure about thor, batman ect.

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#7 Posted by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio
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#8 Posted by HigorM (8272 posts) - - Show Bio
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#9 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (3069 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlordeternal: Thanos has controled him with it before he made the hulk fight the avengers

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#10 Posted by Killemall (18928 posts) - - Show Bio

Tyrant solo everyone apart from Juggernaut, whom Thanos and Despero, 2 kickass telepath, can take care of.

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#11 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (3069 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Even a weakend version of Tyrant can?

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#12 Posted by Killemall (18928 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Even a weakend version of Tyrant can?

The whole idea that depower Tyrant is some weak version is hogwash really. Same Tyrant stood up to a Galactus who recently fed up on a planet in his anticipation and nearly killed him and made a mockery out of 5 herald level characters twice. He has the ability to absorb energy attack and one shot herald level character, not sure why the team would be any problem.

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#13 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (3069 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: So he is more powerful than Galactus at max?

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#14 Posted by Shawnbaby (11063 posts) - - Show Bio

There are way too many people involved in this fight

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#15 Posted by Dredeuced (6428 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: So he is more powerful than Galactus at max?

No, but he gave a nearly equal fight to a modestly fed Galactus.

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#16 Posted by Immortal777 (9602 posts) - - Show Bio

where is the rest of team 2 because those there wont be enough.

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#17 Edited by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Tyrant could solo all 26?

@higorm:Now that I think of it that might make this fight really one sided. Should I give the opposing team prep?

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#18 Edited by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay I modified a few things.

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#19 Posted by Killemall (18928 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: So he is more powerful than Galactus at max?

No he isnt, depowered version (which people frown upon) and full power version are in fact on the same level, marvel themselves dont classify Tyrant as being depowered or otherwise.

Tyrant fought Galactus in the past and Galactus reduced his size, so reasonably weakened him. By the time he appeared next on panel he had already replenished himself.

@warlordeternal:Sure why not. I keep Tyrant in a whole different weight class as compared to any of these guys.

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#20 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 handily. Tyrant is MVP

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#21 Edited by laflux (23639 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Posted by HigorM (8272 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay I modified a few things.

It´s still one sided, remove the prep thing and Tyrant, then you might have a fair fight.. maybe..

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#23 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7746 posts) - - Show Bio

team one wins

team 2 doesn't really have anyone to give them the edge IMO

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#24 Edited by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by HigorM (8272 posts) - - Show Bio
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#26 Posted by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio

@higorm: Oh sorry I was in a rush at the moment. You really think I should remove Tyrant?

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#27 Posted by HigorM (8272 posts) - - Show Bio

@higorm: Oh sorry I was in a rush at the moment. You really think I should remove Tyrant?

well, if you agree with what Killemall said, then you should remove him, maybe you can put some other character in his place..

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#28 Edited by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio

@higorm: Do you agree with what he said?

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#29 Posted by HigorM (8272 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlordeternal: Yes, @killemall is an authority when it comes to those kind of characters, and he is an overall very experienced member with extensive knowledge.

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#30 Posted by GhostRider2 (4916 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1, i wish Surfer to be on Tyrant level but he is not, anyway Surfer is the strongest on team 2.

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#31 Posted by Killemall (18928 posts) - - Show Bio

@higorm said:

@warlordeternal: Yes, @killemall is an authority when it comes to those kind of characters, and he is an overall very experienced member with extensive knowledge.

I can understand people thinking otherwise when it comes to Tyrant, he doesn have limited feats. But marvel made it pretty clearly he is pretty close to power level as Galactus, but thats about it, apart from that he doesnt have a lot of feats.

http://www.comicvine.com/tyrant/4005-7123/forums/tyrant-chronology-752947/

That has Tyrant entire chronology till date, and if you notice its very short.

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#32 Edited by King Saturn (220730 posts) - - Show Bio

Tyrant alone could probably smash 90 percent of that team... I mean he ran through Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill like they was kids...

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#33 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7746 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah, Tyrant takes this

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#34 Edited by dondave (41413 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

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#35 Posted by New_World_Order (14786 posts) - - Show Bio

Tyrant alone could probably smash 90 percent of that team... I mean he ran through Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill like they was kids...

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#36 Posted by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio
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#37 Edited by King Saturn (220730 posts) - - Show Bio

@higorm: Well yeah of course. I got lots of respect for @killemall, I just wanted to know what your opinion was.

@killemall: @king_saturn: @betatesthighlander1: @dondave:

So you guys think that even with the amount of brawn, brain power and prep that team 2 has, it's still not enough?

Nope... the other team would need a serious heavy hitter to battle with Tyrant alone...

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#39 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7746 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlordeternal: yeah, not really enough to take on Team 2, it'd be quite the fight, but no one can really match Tyrant or Darkseid

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#40 Edited by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn: You don't think guys like Juggernaut and Hulk at world war level could hold him off?.

@dondave: Doesn't have any.

@betatesthighlander1:IIRC Superman while amped on some solar energy nearly ripped Darkseid's arm off.

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#41 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (6649 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 win. Too many hitters and 1 sided prep. Tyrant is the most powerful character here (unless its like Pc Darkseid or HP Doomsday) and Martian Manhunters telepathy would offset Thanos'. They'd have to Cains helmet off and if its Classic the. He physically is the most imposing character here.

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#42 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7746 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlordeternal:

did he? scans?

also, which versiomns of SM and DS were that?

which versions are we using?

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#43 Posted by King Saturn (220730 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn: You don't think guys like Juggernaut and Hulk at world war level could hold him off?.

@dondave: Doesn't have any.

@betatesthighlander1:IIRC Superman while amped on some solar energy nearly ripped Darkseid's arm off.

No Sir... even though they are Strong Powerhouses... I don't think they can hold Tyrant.

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#44 Posted by WarlordEternal (4457 posts) - - Show Bio

did he? scans?

I'll see if I can find them.

also, which versiomns of SM and DS were that?

Post Crisis

which versions are we using?

Post Crisis/Pre 52

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#45 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7746 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlordeternal: in that case it should be any 15 of these guys vs tyrant, and IU think Tyrant would still win (although the fight would be quite a site)

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#47 Edited by King Saturn (220730 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know what prep would do here... I mean what could they do to prep for Tyrant ? They would need to find a source of some serious power to even contend with him alone.

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#50 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7746 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1 said:

@king_saturn: warrior madness?

What will that do ? I mean even Thanos with a Energy Powerup could not seriously hurt Tyrant.

Batson uses his knowledge of magic to make Juggs go all Trion?