Toxin, Carnage and Venom vs. Hulk, Iron Man and Captain America

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#1  Edited By rusty113

(Reg: Toxin and Carnage) Venom as Mac Gargan
(Reg: Hulk and Iron man) Captain America as Steve Rogers.
 
Which side would win?

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#2  Edited By Lance Uppercut

Team 2

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#3  Edited By hdorman1
@rusty113 said:
" (Reg: Toxin and Carnage) Venom as Mac Gargan (Reg: Hulk and Iron man) Captain America as Steve Rogers.  Which side would win? "
toxin is crazy strong
 but team 2  would win
an easy win
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#4  Edited By rusty113
@hdorman1: 
How do u figure so. Venom has taken over the hulk by himself before as a matter of fact Venom has taken over Thor. Hulk would me the greatest threat in this battle.
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#5  Edited By hdorman1
@rusty113: venom is the weak link in team 1
its gargan, he makes mistakes 
and thor is alot stronger nowadays due to him not holding back anymore
toxin is in the 90-100 level
if team 1 has a chance its him
but it depends if morals apply
also iron man
he has dossiers on everyone now
im sure he is well versed on their weaknesses
especially since he got to know petey so well
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#6  Edited By rusty113
@hdorman1: 
Very true. 
I would think if that battle happened in the marvel universe
morals would have to go out the window wouldn't you think?
Also could you tell me any more about toxin i have been reading about him for the past half hour
and I'm curious to know if you have any cool knowledge about him?
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#7  Edited By Manchine

Hulk can almost handle this by himeself without breaking a sweat.  Adding Iron Man and Captain America is just the icing on the cake.    Iron Man by himself can beat these guys.  =/
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#8  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

Iron Man solos

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#9  Edited By Matezoide2

either Hulk or Iron Man solo

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#10  Edited By rusty113

Damn. I definitely agree don't get me wrong i love team 1 over team 2 but don't you think you guys are underestimating them just a tad bit i mean venom could detach himself and take over captain america or hulk easily

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#12  Edited By Sherlock
@rusty113 said:
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This isnt even fair i dont see iron man soloing but hulk certainly could team 2 easily
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#13  Edited By rusty113
@Sherlock: 
You are right there are a lot of Venoms, but there are also a lot of super heroes laying there on the ground. I'm a die hard Venom and carnage fan, so that might be the reason i am debating the issue right now lol but think about it Venom has the capability of changing its host meaning it can abandon mac and turn his full attention towards the hulk which is certainly plausible. Toxin could take care of iron man hands down considering he is far greater then venom and carnage put together. I'm just not sure about captain america and carnage
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#14  Edited By Sherlock
@rusty113: That was just an observation reminds me of Spiderman Web Of Shadows and if Venom can take over hulk then if they manage that team 1 wins cause if venom can toxin can and that would just be scary
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#15  Edited By rusty113

That's what I'm saying lol i think they are deeply underestimated.  Venom has even taken Thor as a host in a battle

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@Matezoide said:
"either Hulk or Iron Man solo "
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#17  Edited By Sherlock

I still cant see iron man soloing

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#18  Edited By rusty113

iron man could not win solo with prep time obviously because he would come up with a sound wave of some sorts to disrupt the symbiotes. captain america would just try thats about it. But back to the main point theres no prep time in this scenario

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#19  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Sherlock said:
" I still cant see iron man soloing "
High frequency attacks, and heat are the symbiote's weaknesses. And Iron Man is kind of an expert, in both factors.
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#20  Edited By hdorman1
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Sherlock said:
" I still cant see iron man soloing "
High frequency attacks, and heat are the symbiote's weaknesses. And Iron Man is kind of an expert, in both factors. "
except toxin is immune to both
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#21  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@hdorman1 said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Sherlock said:
" I still cant see iron man soloing "
High frequency attacks, and heat are the symbiote's weaknesses. And Iron Man is kind of an expert, in both factors. "
except toxin is immune to both "
Which is why his handbook entry says he is not.
 
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#22  Edited By rusty113
@hdorman1: 
i didn't know that, that makes this battle even more interesting.
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@rusty113 said:
" @hdorman1:  i didn't know that, that makes this battle even more interesting. "

That was completely false and I don't think that Anti-Venom is even invulnerable to those things.
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#24  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @rusty113 said:
" @hdorman1:  i didn't know that, that makes this battle even more interesting. "
That was completely false and I don't think that Anti-Venom is even invulnerable to those things. "
I think he is. The T-bolts tried to use them on him and they failed, IIRC.
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@Morpheus_ said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @rusty113 said:
" @hdorman1:  i didn't know that, that makes this battle even more interesting. "
That was completely false and I don't think that Anti-Venom is even invulnerable to those things. "
I think he is. The T-bolts tried to use them on him and they failed, IIRC. "

He may have a higher resistance to them, but I'm still not sure if he's invulnerable.
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#26  Edited By Sherlock

Well high resistance goes a long way

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#27  Edited By hdorman1
@Morpheus_ said:
" @hdorman1 said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Sherlock said:
" I still cant see iron man soloing "
High frequency attacks, and heat are the symbiote's weaknesses. And Iron Man is kind of an expert, in both factors. "
except toxin is immune to both "
Which is why his handbook entry says he is not.
 
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i was under the assumption that he was
 he certainly displays a very high resistence to both
certainly far more then the other symbiotes
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#28  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@hdorman1 said:
" i was under the assumption that he was  he certainly displays a very high resistence to both certainly far more then the other symbiotes "
That is correct. But immunity is something else entirely. 
 
It's all good, either way.
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#29  Edited By rusty113

i still think the symbiotes have a very good fighting chance. and toxic's ability to resist  high frequency attacks along with heat attacks gives them all the advantage they need.

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@rusty113 said:

i still think the symbiotes have a very good fighting chance. and toxic's ability to resist high frequency attacks along with heat attacks gives them all the advantage they need.

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#32  Edited By Nitsua

I don't think Toxin is going to be able to solo team 2 once Venom and Carnage are taken out(assuming Tony get's to use sonics and land a couple shots on 'em). Not to mention Hulk thunderclapping the symbiotes right off of them...

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Hulk can solo

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If they play smart, the Avengers CAN win, buy honestly, the symbiotes are too quick and maniacal. They can close the distance and bind Hulk before he has a chance to become too strong and work on taking him over by crawling into his nose and mouth.

Venom can b&tchsmack Cap a few 100 yards and work on dodging Iron Man's missile barrage. This could go either way, with Venom eluding Iron Man until he's out of juice (btw his Spidey like reflexes, speed and senses), or Tony could drop a bomb that destroys a city block, trapping, burning and causing a boatload of noise, messing up and killing Venom. The latter may happen, however, Carnage and Toxin are quick and strong enough to avoid Hulk's thunderclaps, and using their appendages and symbiote matter to take over him.

I just think without prep, or Hulk thunderclapping from the jump, they die.

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#36 thedailybagel  Moderator  Online

@dre_savage: that could work... If hulk wasn't as fast if not faster than the other team and if he didn't completely outclass them in strength i could see it working. Sadly hulk could solo.

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#39  Edited By 106me

Hulk solos. Other than that it would have been a close call.

I'm also not sure as to what the hell Captain America is doing here.

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