Thor,Mangog Vs Black Adam,Darkseid

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darkseid solos

Darkseid or Black Adam solo.

No this actually needs a bump. Darkseid is not soloing. Either is The Rocks look a like. I'll be happy to vs anyone in a Viner VS Viner match on this.

@ThunderGodsWrath: Give me some info on Thors teammate and you might just have found your viner

@Nightflash said:

@ThunderGodsWrath: Give me some info on Thors teammate and you might just have found your viner

He is composed of a billion , billion souls, and has beaten Thor in every ecounter.

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@Nightflash said:

@ThunderGodsWrath: Give me some info on Thors teammate and you might just have found your viner

He is composed of a billion , billion souls, and has beaten Thor in every ecounter.

He has lost against Thor twice, one was an extremely amped up Thor (RKT), one was normal Thor who blasted him inside his mouth (Thor: Tears of a God).

Extremely durable though, apart from those time Thor is simply incapable of really harming Mangog let alone beating him.

Darkseid isnt soloing.

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

No this actually needs a bump. Darkseid is not soloing. Either is The Rocks look a like. I'll be happy to vs anyone in a Viner VS Viner match on this.

Darkseid at the time of the OP had fiqured out anti-life equation, he is most certainly soloing.

Team 1

@ThunderGodsWrath: I'll do Thor vs. Black Adam.

im going team 1 here i think,due to mangog being a total wrecking machine,he would beat black adam for sure.d/s be a close fight though.

Darkseid darn near solos.

@blackadamFTW said:

@ThunderGodsWrath: I'll do Thor vs. Black Adam.

Alright ! You make it.

@Killemallsaid:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@Nightflash said:

@ThunderGodsWrath: Give me some info on Thors teammate and you might just have found your viner

He is composed of a billion , billion souls, and has beaten Thor in every ecounter.

He has lost against Thor twice, one was an extremely amped up Thor (RKT), one was normal Thor who blasted him inside his mouth (Thor: Tears of a God).

Extremely durable though, apart from those time Thor is simply incapable of really harming Mangog let alone beating him.

Darkseid isnt soloing.

Well Rune King Thor wasn't a normal Thor, so I didn't count it. The anti-blast killed Mangog? I thought it stunned him.

@Dextersinistersaid:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

No this actually needs a bump. Darkseid is not soloing. Either is The Rocks look a like. I'll be happy to vs anyone in a Viner VS Viner match on this.

Darkseid at the time of the OP had fiqured out anti-life equation, he is most certainly soloing.

Oh, than yeah, he does solo.

@ThunderGodsWrath: Sure.

Mangog can be erased from existence. (RKT made that clear.) Omega beams should erase Mangog, then DS can either simply overpower Thor or take his mind w/ ALE.

Team 2 for the plethora of reasons already listed.

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

Well Rune King Thor wasn't a normal Thor, so I didn't count it. The anti-blast killed Mangog? I thought it stunned him.

He was knocked out not killed.

@Killemall said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

Well Rune King Thor wasn't a normal Thor, so I didn't count it. The anti-blast killed Mangog? I thought it stunned him.

He was knocked out not killed.

I see. Still a good durability feat. Seeing as the Anti-Blast is as powerful as a star.

@logy5000 said:

Mangog can be erased from existence. (RKT made that clear.) Omega beams should erase Mangog,

Weaker guys than Mangog have survived the Omega Beams. Maybe if DS shot them into his mouth, but that's not liable to be his first choice. They are not auto-kill beams by any means, and the commonly employed defense that "they only fail against people important to the universe" is a fan-made excuse that is never actually stated or implied in the comics.

then DS can either simply overpower Thor or take his mind w/ ALE.

The version of the ALE Darkseid had in Final Crisis is actually not at all suited for combat, and is not nearly as effective as the version used by Kirby or Simonson. If it were, Batman would have never gotten his shot off, their confrontation would have ended the moment Darkseid said "embrace antilife." Also, Darkseid himself didn't even use it, it seemed to be something disseminated solely by his lackeys in the story. So the degree to which it can be claimed he "has" it himself is a little dubious to me.

I also think it is kind of a weak argument in general to invoke something that is clearly not a normal part of Darkseid's abilities and would make him immensely more formidable if he did have it.

@Freefa11: That's bad writing when weak people survive it. Also, when people say that only important beings can survive it, I think that is more applicable to PC Darkseid.

Who said this had to be FC DS?

@logy5000

The there's bad writing 90% of the times he uses OE,IMO its just a fancy way for him to exerce matter manipulation.Again OE isn't auto-win it has failed many times to be said so.

I think Team 1 takes 7/10 Mangog is too much for BA and will help thor defeat DS(which is at the same level than Thanos),that is if DS doesn't trip and falls on his face,giving Thor the opportunity to godblast him.

@Kellar21: Im very unfamiliar with mangog to say which team would win but darkseid or black adam would beat thor

@logy5000 said:

Mangog can be erased from existence. (RKT made that clear.) Omega beams should erase Mangog, then DS can either simply overpower Thor or take his mind w/ ALE.

Mangog was erased from existance by Rune King Thor, who can slaughterstomp many Darkseid-power level characters at once. Now i am curious how Darkseid is gonna erase Mangog when his OB was blocked by WW's braslets and Superman. Darkseid is highly OVERRATED.

And team 1 wins.

@Freefa11: Darkseid did exactly what he wanted to Batman he set him up DA BOMB so the Batman example isn't the greatest, he didn't wish to control him.

How does Mangog hold up against BFR.

@Jedisupermaster: Wonder Wonder womans bracelts are near indestructible so saying shw can block is an awfull arguement and superman surviving the omega beams is of course relevant. He is one of DCs flagship characetrs so he his protected by plot.

@logy5000 said:

Darkseid darn near solos.

No he doesn't...

@Nightflash said:

@Jedisupermaster: Wonder Wonder womans bracelts are near indestructible so saying shw can block is an awfull arguement and superman surviving the omega beams is of course relevant. He is one of DCs flagship characetrs so he his protected by plot.

The same thing is with Mjolnir. Plus, Thor and Mangog are both durable as hell.

@Jedisupermaster: Mjolnir will definately survive but...

Current Darkseid one shotted superman and flash barely escaped. Thor is slower than Flash and his speed and durability is on level with Superman

Couldnt thor just Godblast both of them without morals?

@Jedisupermaster said:

@logy5000 said:

Mangog can be erased from existence. (RKT made that clear.) Omega beams should erase Mangog, then DS can either simply overpower Thor or take his mind w/ ALE.

Mangog was erased from existance by Rune King Thor, who can slaughterstomp many Darkseid-power level characters at once. Now i am curious how Darkseid is gonna erase Mangog when his OB was blocked by WW's braslets and Superman. Darkseid is highly OVERRATED.

And team 1 wins.

Yeah, sure. Use crappy writing to debate with.

@King-Stranglehold da first: Care to make a case?

@logy5000 said:

@King-Stranglehold da first: Care to make a case?

You? Who has current Darkseid killed with the omega beam that was really powerful?

@King-Stranglehold da first: We're using current Darkseid? I thought we were using mainstream Darkseid.

OP pic is FC Darkseid, who has ALE.

Team 2.

@logy5000 said:

@King-Stranglehold da first: We're using current Darkseid? I thought we were using mainstream Darkseid.

OP pic is FC Darkseid, who has ALE.

OP said all current.

I lack knowledge of mangog but I know New 52 darkseid will oneshot Thor since his durability is at best on par with superman and he isnt fast enough to avoid omega beams. As for mangog, I doubt he can take darkseid and black adam.

@King-Stranglehold da first: I stand corrected.

This is closer than I thought.

@logy5000 said:

@King-Stranglehold da first: I stand corrected.

This is closer than I thought.

Yeah the thread was made in 2011, so this is definitely 52 Darkseid.

Mangog solos

Neither Darkseid nor Adam are all father level threats

Thor and Mangog.

team 2

Thor and Mangog.

Mangog leg drops both of team 2. N52 Darkseid is more consistent than PC but still isn't at the level I'd consider worthy of beating him.

Team 1

Darkseid oneshots including own teammate

Thor & Mangog win, assuming Darkseid is avatar.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/respect-mangog-the-hatred-who-walks-2042875/