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#1  Edited By KingZod
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Superman team should win if pre 52 feats are allowed.

And reverse flash is OP

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Team sups. RF MVP

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#4  Edited By KingZod

Superman team should win if pre 52 feats are allowed.

And reverse flash is OP

Team sups. RF MVP

Would it be fair if I replaced Rulk with Sentry?

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@kingzod said:
@goldchamp101 said:

Superman team should win if pre 52 feats are allowed.

And reverse flash is OP

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Team sups. RF MVP

Would it be fair if I replaced Rulk with Sentry?

I think it'd be closer but I think I saw him knocked out by She-Hulk before

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Reverse Flash could solo.

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@kingzod: Depends on which version of sentry, if you ask me. Also, which version of RF are you using, your picture is of flashpoint thawne, which is insanely powerful.

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@kingzod: Depends on which version of sentry, if you ask me. Also, which version of RF are you using, your picture is of flashpoint thawne, which is insanely powerful.

I am in-fact using flashpoint thwane

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Reverse Flash's speed and Martian Manhunter's telepathy is a too much for the Marvel team to overcome.

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@kingzod: Then I'd definitely say that even if you sub out Rulk, team sups still takes this, with RF as MVP

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@kingzod: Then I'd definitely say that even if you sub out Rulk, team sups still takes this, with RF as MVP

Done

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Alright guys, Rulk out, Sentry in. Who takes it now?

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Team 2 in a sorta stomp. Orion, MMH, and RF is all that's really needed.

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Team 2 in a sorta stomp. Orion, MMH, and RF is all that's really needed.

I agree with all of this

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Team 2 in a sorta stomp. Orion, MMH, and RF is all that's really needed.

I thought Sentry would even things out?

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Superman's Team .

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Reverse Flash could solo.

You can't be serious

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@kingzod said:
@highaccuser said:

Reverse Flash could solo.

You can't be serious

Time travel and time manipulation along with speed blitz. The opposition has no answer.

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@kingzod said:
@highaccuser said:

Reverse Flash could solo.

You can't be serious

Time travel and time manipulation along with speed blitz. The opposition has no answer.

Not even Quasar or Sentry?

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@kingzod said:
@highaccuser said:
@kingzod said:
@highaccuser said:

Reverse Flash could solo.

You can't be serious

Time travel and time manipulation along with speed blitz. The opposition has no answer.

Not even Quasar or Sentry?

Sentry has no answer for being aged to death or killed as an infant.

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@kingzod said:
@highaccuser said:
@kingzod said:
@highaccuser said:

Reverse Flash could solo.

You can't be serious

Time travel and time manipulation along with speed blitz. The opposition has no answer.

Not even Quasar or Sentry?

Sentry has no answer for being aged to death or killed as an infant.

Well looks like Eobard is too OP, he's gotta go lol

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Team Thor easily. Only threat is MMH with TP and enough of the team have resistance to that.

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@kingzod said:
@highaccuser said:
@kingzod said:
@highaccuser said:
@kingzod said:
@highaccuser said:

Reverse Flash could solo.

You can't be serious

Time travel and time manipulation along with speed blitz. The opposition has no answer.

Not even Quasar or Sentry?

Sentry has no answer for being aged to death or killed as an infant.

Well looks like Eobard is too OP, he's gotta go lol

boooo, you took out thawne :(

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boooo, you took out thawne :(

Sorry dude, he was having too much fun lol

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Team Thor easily. Only threat is MMH with TP and enough of the team have resistance to that.

- 55 wins and counting. 3 tournaments.

http://www.warwithwords.com

Your opinions always seem to go against the majority

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Martian Manhunter can still drop all of them except maybe Sentry and Quasar with telepathy.

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#29 emperorthanos-  Moderator

I would give it to team 1.

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@highaccuser: Don't you think you're underestimating Thors team alittle?

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Superman > Sentry

Wonder Woman > Thor

Martian Manhunter > Gladiator

Black Adam > Blue Marvel

Orion > Quasar

Captain Marvel/Shazam > Hyperion

Thanks! :)

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goes either way

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@axlrose said:

jonn blitz blitz by thoe he tag ss glads hyperion whor faster nevermind thor fastest there is so fast magic hammer blur speed omnidirectional lightning galaxtus level odin omnipotent THOR God GOD I SEE GOD omnipotent speed blotz speed BLOTZZZZ!!!

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@highaccuser: Could you give some MMH TP that make you think it's a stomp, I just think you're not giving that good of an argument. No offense

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@reno117: I thought Sentry and Supes were dead even. Also I see people argue back and forth about Thor vs Supes so you sure WW can beat him. Also wouldn't Hyperion be able to stalemate shazam?

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@reno117: I thought Sentry and Supes were dead even.

Hmm, what makes you think that Sentry is dead even with Kal having Post Crisis and New 52 feats..?! :P

Also I see people argue back and forth about Thor vs Supes so you sure WW can beat him.

Actually, haha, It's more fair for Thor to fight with Wonder Woman (also having PC/NEW 52 feats) rather than fight with Supes. And anyway my post is just above, I don't see anyone arguing with it. :))

Also wouldn't Hyperion be able to stalemate shazam?

That actually is close indeed, but Shazam still has the raw power advantage over Hyperion and most of all he has the magic factor over him as well. So he wins.

Nice thread btw.

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#39 emperorthanos-  Moderator

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Superman > Sentry

How exactly? Superman can't deal with his molecular manip or his telepathy. Superman can't even put him down for good.

Wonder Woman > Thor

Here only advantage is speed, Thor is more versatile, has better striking, and lightening.

Martian Manhunter > Gladiator

I can agree to this but only because of TP and his phasing.

Black Adam > Blue Marvel

Don't know either so not going to argue here.

Orion > Quasar

Quasar is far better at energy manip and can absorb most of Orions attacks.

Captain Marvel/Shazam > Hyperion

Again not familiar with these 2 so I won't get into it.

I can match them as well

Sentry>= Martian Manhunter- Both posses tp but Sentry can't be put down for good, he just comes back

Thor= Superman- debatable and I can make a case for both

Gladiator> Wonder Woman- Faster, better sticking, more durable.

Quasar> Orion- he can absorb all of his attacks, effectively making his energy mania useless. And then beats him from there with his own energy attacks.

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#40  Edited By Biggest_D

Gladiator, Hyperion and Sentry probably solos. Blue Marvel is really OP as well. Thor is the weak link though since DC teams are weak to lightning then Thor will probably solo most of them.

Wonder Woman, Shazam, Black Adam aren't that much of a problem.

Superman, Orion and Martian Manhunter are the real problem.

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Thor Hyperion and Sentry probably solos.

You seriously think Thor and Hyperion can solo the entire Superman team. Thats not even debatable. Heck, I challenge you to a CaV about it.

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@khaji-da said:
@biggest_d said:

Thor Hyperion and Sentry probably solos.

You seriously think Thor and Hyperion can solo the entire Superman team. Thats not even debatable. Heck, I challenge you to a CaV about it.

Deal, but quick question how is any of them going to hurt the guy that took two universe exploding on his face?

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@khaji-da said:
@biggest_d said:

Thor Hyperion and Sentry probably solos.

You seriously think Thor and Hyperion can solo the entire Superman team. Thats not even debatable. Heck, I challenge you to a CaV about it.

Deal, but quick question how is any of them going to hurt the guy that took two universe exploding on his face?

I'll even help you out. You said either can solo. I'll be nice to you and let it be thor and hyperion vs the team. and it will have the same rules as here. Ok, i'll tag you when i make it.

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@kingzod: How is my argument poor when no one has presented any instances of even basic telepathy resistance? Regardless Jonn has entered Mageddon and Spectre's minds, dropped multiple Justice Leagues with telepathy, scanned all minds in the galaxy and put groups of Martians in illusions. Most of the team goes down to telepathy without a doubt.

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@biggest_d _ lmao joker,its NP way a stomp but team superman wins _ Thor can't even comfortably solo on each of the characters, superman would win 7/10 pre 52 superman is incredibly ridiculously strong , against wonderwoman it's not just speed she also has the lasso and she is physically on par with Thor almost on supermans level , its a draw here, martian manhunyer would destroy him, his striking force is useless and he has mind control , he can't beat Shazam or black Adam cos they are both just as durable and string as superman , SM and Shazam can lift infinite weight , speed advantage , the only person he would win here I think is Orion not not by any chance easy he can manipulate energy and I think he has the alpha beam too , so don't be quick to say Thor solos cos he would be killed against all of them easily and I'm talking about the thor with Odin force

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Gladiator, Hyperion and Sentry probably solos. Blue Marvel is really OP as well. Thor is the weak link though since DC teams are weak to lightning then Thor will probably solo most of them.

Wonder Woman, Shazam, Black Adam aren't that much of a problem.

Superman, Orion and Martian Manhunter are the real problem.

Gladiator is not soloing, nor is sentry or Hyperion.

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#47  Edited By Reno117

So here it comes, once again. :)

@emperorthanos:

How exactly? Superman can't deal with his molecular manip or his telepathy. Superman can't even put him down for good.

Sentry MIGHT not be able to be killed but he can still get KOed. WWH showed that. And KOing is one of the conditions for winning and since Kal is stronger, faster and has much more experience I can't see the trouble here. Additionally, Sentry barely beat Blue Marvel, another powerhouse who doesn't have the level of feats Superman has. As for the telepathy point, first Kal is a telepathy resistant and second Sentry has never shown any TP feats. He just uses his mental powers to keep his physical powers in check. I knew someone would bring the molecular manipulation manner here, destroying Molecule Man was PIS. Moreover he doesn't even have much experience with it but this is why he can't be killed. Anyway against a being whom bench-pressed the mass of the earth for 5 days continuously while cut off from yellow sunlight shedding only a single drop of sweat in the process, could briefely stun H'el who is a being more durable than even Kal, could destroy entire plantes with just his fists, Sentry won't be able to help getting KOed which is one of the conditions for winning the fight.

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Here only advantage is speed, Thor is more versatile, has better striking, and lightening.

And her reaction, and sword and the lasso. Diana has shown that she's faster than Supergirl in terms of combat speed, who also fought Flash albeit while he was holding back, nonetheless, Wonder Woman has demonstrated that she can incapacitate Thor with her Lasso of Truth like she did to Supergirl. So Wonder Woman without much trouble here.

I can agree to this but only because of TP and his phasing.

It's settled then.

Don't know either so not going to argue here.

...ok.

Quasar is far better at energy manip and can absorb most of Orions attacks.

Again, wrong. He can only control all energy on the em spectrum.. furthermore, psionic energy is quantum energy's weakness and can go it through it like butter. But either way, Astro Harness can handle mostly anything Quasar throws at him since the Astro Force is "The Wrath of the Source itself":

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So to end this, Orions life source is the source and Quasar simply can't drain something of such magnitude. Go on and search scans of him drawing in that much power equivalent in the Marvel universe.. You won't find anything anyway since they do not exist. No feats, no dice.

Again not familiar with these 2 so I won't get into it.

Ok.

I can match them as well

And here I am to debunk them once more. ;D

Sentry>= Martian Manhunter- Both posses tp but Sentry can't be put down for good, he just comes back

Already debunked. Consider Martian Manhunter just a bit weaker than Kal and you got it.

Actually.. :) Sentry barely has any tp feats to speak of, particularly in combat use. Bottom line, no feats for Sentry using tp combat wise or somethin'.

Thor= Superman- debatable and I can make a case for both

Now sorry, not trying to be a d*ck or something but I loled hard on this one mate. Just NO.

Gladiator> Wonder Woman- Faster, better sticking, more durable.

And what will Black Adam and Shazam do..?! Sit and enjoy the show..?! OP states teamwork buddy, this ain't gonna happen. :)

AAAND.. WHAT THE FLOCK?! Diana is faster as she can keep up with Jesse Quick and Wally West due to being blessed with flight and superspeed from Hermes/Mercury and there can be no doubt that Diana has superior combat skills to Gladiator plus the fact she is skilled in applying a mixture of strength and skill. The only advantage Gladiator has is a ranged advantage and Diana will be able to block his heat beams easily as her bracelets have been shown to be able to block even Kal's heat vision. No argument needed about her being physically superior to Gladiator as not many people can go toe to toe with Superman on a regular basis.

Quasar> Orion- he can absorb all of his attacks, effectively making his energy mania useless. And then beats him from there with his own energy attacks.

Already debunked as well. Not gonna happen.

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Superman's team.

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@khaji-da: Tag me too when you finish it.. I would like to participate. :)

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@reno117 said:

@khaji-da: Tag me too when you finish it.. I would like to participate. :)

It's here: http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/cav-thor-and-hyperion-biggestd-vs-superman-team-kh-1788407/?page=1#js-message-2