Thor (no powers) vs Captain America

Captain America wins. He's a better fighter and has better combat feats, he is also phyiscally superior to Thor.

" Captain America wins. He's a better fighter and has better combat feats, he is also phyiscally superior to Thor. "

" What do you mean by Thor has no powers... Human level? "

Captain America wins.

"Captain America wins. He's a better fighter and has better combat feats, he is also phyiscally superior to Thor. "

Thor wins.

Does anybody have feats for Thor's h2h skills? I'm going with Cap for now

well as Mjolnir can still fly Thor throws at supersonic speed at Cap and kills him

Even if both are around relative levels i still think Thor takes it. Thor even depowered has taken on people when he only had mjolnir
 
 

Is there anything Thor CAN'T do for you guys? Sheesh. He might have thousands of years of experience in fighting, but all that fighting has consisted of hammer swinging in Asgardian battles, which I highly doubt incorporated much martial arts.

@texasdeathmatch:

Thor got this . his durability would be the edge here

" Thor got this . his durability would be the edge here "

" Stalemate. Tie. "

" @god_spawn:  I agree that Thor should be the better fighter. But if we go by experience and length of time fighting than Champion should destroy everyone. 

" @erik:  well he still has his natural Asgardian physiology which is a few times better than even a perfect human. but nothing Cap can't overcome. "

" @termiteone4ever said:

" Thor got this . his durability would be the edge here "

Thor does not have any durability for this thread.   Rogers wins.  "

" @erik said:

" @termiteone4ever said:

" Thor got this . his durability would be the edge here "

Thor does not have any durability for this thread.   Rogers wins.  "

I'd assume he meant Thor's chainmail outfit that can soak up heat from right next to the sun without melting and tank a beating from the Sentry. "

" @Hellos said:

" @erik said:

" @termiteone4ever said:

" Thor got this . his durability would be the edge here "

Thor does not have any durability for this thread.   Rogers wins.  "

I'd assume he meant Thor's chainmail outfit that can soak up heat from right next to the sun without melting and tank a beating from the Sentry. "

I believe that has a lot to do with Thor's magical endowments that are not present in this thread. His armor gets busted up quite a bit in his ongoing.  "

You guys are missing the most important factor:  The fight is taking place on an open field on the American prairies.  Cap's knowledge of America gives him a supreme tactical advantage. 

" @Hellos:  
Just magical defenses in general such as the Odinforce.  
 
Obviously he did not have that for the Sentry fight but any Sentry expert cough Vance cough will tell you that Sentry was jobbing like crazy in Siege.   Generally Asgardian shields are better than Rogers' shield? No. That is not true at all.   Furthermore, Irom Man has never noted Thor's armor of being impressive stuff but has for Rogers. And yes, the armor Rogers wears does grant him a great deal of protection.  "

Steve definitely wins this fight but Thor does have serious Asgardian fight training behind him. He isn't exactly a slouch when it comes to hand to hand.

" @Vance Astro:  based on the Marvel Handbook Champion has been fighting across the galaxy for years mastering countless styles that most people that we consider "skilled" have never heard of. Champion was taking over entire planets before he even got the power gem just using his billions of years of fighting experience. Likewise before Thor could even lift Mjolnir he was learning from asgards finest on how to fight and defend his self. Steve learned from the US government how to fight. The US government isn't known for H2H combat.  And was frozen therefore not learning any new styles. Champion has conquered entire planets by his fist alone. Most were probably weaker than Champion was. But Steve couldn't defeat a city of regular humans who were attacking him. So Champion and Thor SHOULD   be better fighters. But i go by on panel feats. Thats why i say CA is the better fighter. "

"
T    The God of Thunder      vs The Super Soldier Thor has no powers for this fight, both are allowed their armour  and signiature weapons for this fiight (Milonjir has no energy coming out of it.)  And the fight is taking place in open plain in the American Prairies. So, who do think would win? "

" @pooty said:

" @Vance Astro:  based on the Marvel Handbook Champion has been fighting across the galaxy for years mastering countless styles that most people that we consider "skilled" have never heard of. Champion was taking over entire planets before he even got the power gem just using his billions of years of fighting experience. Likewise before Thor could even lift Mjolnir he was learning from asgards finest on how to fight and defend his self. Steve learned from the US government how to fight. The US government isn't known for H2H combat.  And was frozen therefore not learning any new styles. Champion has conquered entire planets by his fist alone. Most were probably weaker than Champion was. But Steve couldn't defeat a city of regular humans who were attacking him. So Champion and Thor SHOULD   be better fighters. But i go by on panel feats. Thats why i say CA is the better fighter. "

1.The Champion should be a better fighter NOT Thor.Mastering styles across galaxies is alot different than being a master of jack sh#t and having no notable skilled opponents.2.The Champion taking over planets has nothing to do with fighting skill. 3.You don't need to tell me Thor's history I've read literally hundreds of his books.His best depictions of a training are from his teenage years.He's done little to nothing since.4.Asgards finest? The best fighter in Asgard isn't even as good as characters Rogers trained. 5.The U.S Government isn't known for h2h combat? In Marvel they are? Since were bringing up the Marvel Handbook several character rated higher than Thor have had only military training. 6.Steve couldn't defeat a city of regular humans? Wanna bet? "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @pooty said:

" @Vance Astro:  based on the Marvel Handbook Champion has been fighting across the galaxy for years mastering countless styles that most people that we consider "skilled" have never heard of. Champion was taking over entire planets before he even got the power gem just using his billions of years of fighting experience. Likewise before Thor could even lift Mjolnir he was learning from asgards finest on how to fight and defend his self. Steve learned from the US government how to fight. The US government isn't known for H2H combat.  And was frozen therefore not learning any new styles. Champion has conquered entire planets by his fist alone. Most were probably weaker than Champion was. But Steve couldn't defeat a city of regular humans who were attacking him. So Champion and Thor SHOULD   be better fighters. But i go by on panel feats. Thats why i say CA is the better fighter. "

1.The Champion should be a better fighter NOT Thor.Mastering styles across galaxies is alot different than being a master of jack sh#t and having no notable skilled opponents.2.The Champion taking over planets has nothing to do with fighting skill. 3.You don't need to tell me Thor's history I've read literally hundreds of his books.His best depictions of a training are from his teenage years.He's done little to nothing since.4.Asgards finest? The best fighter in Asgard isn't even as good as characters Rogers trained. 5.The U.S Government isn't known for h2h combat? In Marvel they are? Since were bringing up the Marvel Handbook several character rated higher than Thor have had only military training. 6.Steve couldn't defeat a city of regular humans? Wanna bet? "

Hahaha I don't understand why people are underestimating Steve's fighting ability just because he's human. He led the Avengers for a reason. "

" @Hellos: I know it doesn't, I'm just saying how come he always taught other members how to fight, not Thor? "

" @Hellos: I know it doesn't, I'm just saying how come he always taught other members how to fight, not Thor? "

 
Makes me wonder if Donald Blakes ability to fight counts as Thor's training? 

" @texasdeathmatch said:

" @Hellos: I know it doesn't, I'm just saying how come he always taught other members how to fight, not Thor? "

Thor has taught other characters fight.The difference is alot of characters trained by Cap are actually top level fighters with feats to back it. "

"That's kinda what I'm saying I guess. The fighters he's trained are actually good, where as that scan with Thor looks like some strange adult man/young boy bonding montage. "