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#1 Edited by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio

The Presence decided to wage war with TOAA and gathered an army to fight TOAA  
 
TOAA the Marvel god! not the celestial
 
These are the members of the army: 
 
Pre-Retcon Beyonder 
Saints of Killers with upgraded weapons (instead of Revolvers, he has a handheld gattling gun)  
Superman Prime One Million 
PC Darkseid 
Braniac 
Scarlet Witch with full control of her powers 
Odin Force Thor 
Abraxas 
Full Powered Galactus 
Silver Age Superman 
Rune King Thor 
Classic Sentry 
Classic Molecule Man 
Marquis of Death 
Dr.Doom (with Beyonders powers) 
Parallax 
Onslaught 
Monarch 
Franklin Richards 
Kosmos 
Full powered Spectre 
Black Adam 
Captain Atom 
Genis-Vell 
Captain Mar-Vell 
Dr. Manhattan 
Silver Surfer 
Thanos (with HOTU and IG) 
SSJ4 Gogeta 
White Phoenix of the crown 
Unicron  
Anti-Monitor 
Manddrak 
Original Monitor 
Spawn (all ages) 
Mephisto 
Lobo 
Shuma Gorath 
Kal Kent 
Mxy 
All the Green Lanters and all of them have ION powers 
Agent Orange 
Shazam 
Supreme 
Batman (one million years of Prep Time) 
Phantom Stranger 
Deus Ex Machina  
Man of Miracles
 
All of them have exactly a hundred clones, all with the same power levels.
 
Can they damage/destroy TOAA 
 
or will TOAA erase them from existence easily?  
 
 
BLOODLUST IS ON!

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#2 Posted by lagoon_boy (11336 posts) - - Show Bio
pretty much....but he will get stalemated by beyonder (this is the god right?)
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#3 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio
@lagoon_boy:  
 
Pretty much what sir? 
 
Pre-Retcon Beyonder.
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#4 Posted by Akwa (4780 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA is going down.
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#5 Posted by lagoon_boy (11336 posts) - - Show Bio
is this the celestial or what if not....hes gonna murder every body and maybe stalemate pre retcon beyonder
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#6 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio
@Akwa:  
 
Who gets the killing blow?
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#7 Posted by Akwa (4780 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know who gets the killing blow but the Pre Retcon Beyonder stalemates TOAA alone. With the entire team backing him, they should be able to take TOAA alone.
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#8 Posted by lagoon_boy (11336 posts) - - Show Bio
is this or is this not the god!!! if this is he wins
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#9 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio
@lagoon_boy:  
 
TOAA the god.
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#10 Posted by lagoon_boy (11336 posts) - - Show Bio
he stalemates beyonder
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#11 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio
@lagoon_boy:  
 
So it will boil down to Beyonder vs TOAA?
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#12 Posted by xan84 (4232 posts) - - Show Bio

His omnipotent so he wins or he get's a draw. He can't lose.
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#13 Posted by Akwa (4780 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xan said:
"His omnipotent so he wins or he get's a draw. He can't lose. "

Yes but the Pre-Retcon Beyonder is omnipotent too.
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#14 Posted by lagoon_boy (11336 posts) - - Show Bio
@xyrzrockrain said:
" @lagoon_boy:   So it will boil down to Beyonder vs TOAA? "
yes the others wont hurt him so it makes not much of a difference....and beyonder vs toaa ends in a stalemate
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#15 Posted by xan84 (4232 posts) - - Show Bio
@Akwa said:
"@Xan said:
"His omnipotent so he wins or he get's a draw. He can't lose. "
Yes but the Pre-Retcon Beyonder is omnipotent too. "

So they get a draw. If there are 2 omnipotent dudes they can't win vs 1 omnipotent  dude (they get a draw). Its like saying to 2 infinite number s are greater then 1 infinite number .
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#16 Posted by sevennames27 (1589 posts) - - Show Bio
@Akwa said:
"@Xan said:
"His omnipotent so he wins or he get's a draw. He can't lose. "
Yes but the Pre-Retcon Beyonder is omnipotent too. "

@Xan said:
"His omnipotent so he wins or he get's a draw. He can't lose. "


No TOAA is more powerful than even pre-retcon Beyonder, TOAA stomp.
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#17 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio

There are other beings in there other than PR Beyonder and 
 
PR Beyonder has a hundred copies and they have the same power level 
  
@sevennames27:  
 
So TOAA gets no damage from the attack?
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#18 Posted by Akwa (4780 posts) - - Show Bio
@sevennames27 said:
"@Akwa said:
"@Xan said:
"His omnipotent so he wins or he get's a draw. He can't lose. "
Yes but the Pre-Retcon Beyonder is omnipotent too. "

@Xan said:
"His omnipotent so he wins or he get's a draw. He can't lose. "
No TOAA is more powerful than even pre-retcon Beyonder, TOAA stomp. "

No. It's a stalemate.
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#19 Posted by lagoon_boy (11336 posts) - - Show Bio
@xyrzrockrain said:
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There are other beings in there other than PR Beyonder and 
 
PR Beyonder has a hundred copies and they have the same power level 
  
@sevennames27:   So TOAA gets no damage from the attack? "
infinity cant be overpowered by another infinity power being....its like adding nothing to nothing
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#20 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio
@lagoon_boy:
alright 
 
How about the other beings in there? 
 
Scarlet witch with full control of her powers can wish to make TOAA "damage-able"  
 
SOK shots can kill gods (in his universe anyway)  
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#21 Posted by lagoon_boy (11336 posts) - - Show Bio
@xyrzrockrain said:
" @lagoon_boy: alright  How about the other beings in there?  Scarlet witch with full control of her powers can wish to make TOAA "damage-able"   SOK shots can kill gods (in his universe anyway)   "
well as i said before they dont pose a threat to Toaa, scarlet witch cant effect Toaa with her level of power SOK might hit Toaa but it wont hurt him
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#22 Posted by sevennames27 (1589 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA is more powerful than all the combined power in the MU multi-verse, so nothing and even every thing in it could not even hunt TOAA.    

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#23 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio

Added THe  Man of Miracles in the mix.

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#24 Posted by sevennames27 (1589 posts) - - Show Bio
@xyrzrockrain said:
"Added THe  Man of Miracles in the mix. "

Don't matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#25 Posted by xan84 (4232 posts) - - Show Bio
@xyrzrockrain said:

" @lagoon_boy: alright  How about the other beings in there?  Scarlet witch with full control of her powers can wish to make TOAA "damage-able"   SOK shots can kill gods (in his universe anyway)   "


TOAA made SW, she can try anithing she wants but its not going to affect TOAA. As for SOK how is he going to kill something that doesn't even have a form, its like shooting the Universe. The "GODS" in SOK are nothing like the ones in Marvel. 
Something else those "bulets" have a form and they are solid objects, what if the dude he shoots them at is going to turn intangible ? Or he just puts/creats something in front of the bullet or just outruns the bullet or time travels before the bullet was shoot. 
SOK is just comic relief nothing more.
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#26 Posted by The_Scourge (5335 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't the HOTU on par with TOAA?

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#27 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio
@sevennames27:  
 
will TOAA beat Man of Miracles or Stalemate? 
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#28 Posted by xan84 (4232 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fresh Prince said:

"Isn't the HOTU on par with TOAA? "


Debatable. I say that HOTU is TOAA and Thanos only was able to use those powers because TOAA allowed him...
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#29 Posted by sevennames27 (1589 posts) - - Show Bio
@xyrzrockrain said:

" @sevennames27:   will TOAA beat Man of Miracles or Stalemate?  "


@Xan said:
"@xyrzrockrain said:

" @lagoon_boy: alright  How about the other beings in there?  Scarlet witch with full control of her powers can wish to make TOAA "damage-able"   SOK shots can kill gods (in his universe anyway)   "

TOAA made SW, she can try anithing she wants but its not going to affect TOAA. As for SOK how is he going to kill something that doesn't even have a form, its like shooting the Universe. The "GODS" in SOK are nothing like the ones in Marvel. Something else those "bulets" have a form and they are solid objects, what if the dude he shoots them at is going to turn intangible ? Or he just puts/creats something in front of the bullet or just outruns the bullet or time travels before the bullet was shoot. SOK is just comic relief nothing more. "

TOAA has all the power, even the next most powerful in the MU could be like you finger trying to kill you.

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#30 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio
@sevennames27:  
 
MoM is not from the MU. 
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#31 Posted by sevennames27 (1589 posts) - - Show Bio
@xyrzrockrain said:
" @sevennames27:   MoM is not from the MU.  "

 
 
  So what the feats in the MU are far more than in MoMs, she is like the "Big Dog" of a single universe in the Marvel Multi-verse.
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#32 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

It becomes a stalemate between, the Presence, TOAA, Thanos (W/HOTU) and PR Beyonder as they are all equal in power (technically Omnipotent)  and can not kill one another.

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#33 Posted by Stormultt (5470 posts) - - Show Bio

haha this is nothing, he is the creator. and as for the none marvel people they still lose, hed blink and theyd be gone. he probably wont even remember it seconds later.
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#34 Posted by xXSilowXx (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel Universe = TOAA WINS
DC UNIVERSE = Hes nothing! Anybody can kill him! even me.

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#35 Edited by stevepidge (411 posts) - - Show Bio
@xyrzrockrain: 
 
 
TOAA exists out side of the multiverse that all the below exist. They cannot even sense his existence until he crumbles them up like paper, recycled and reused as toilet paper.
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#36 Posted by lagoon_boy (11336 posts) - - Show Bio
@xXSilowXx said:
" Marvel Universe = TOAA WINSDC UNIVERSE = Hes nothing! Anybody can kill him! even me. "
infinity cannot beat infinty
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#37 Posted by xXSilowXx (121 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA is only powerful in MARVEL multiverse!

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#38 Posted by lagoon_boy (11336 posts) - - Show Bio
@xXSilowXx said:
" TOAA is only powerful in MARVEL multiverse! "
an infinity being cannot take out another infinity....and characters in marvel are made to be powerful in other universes including dc.....stalemate...
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#39 Posted by xXSilowXx (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel has no control over DC

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#40 Posted by Stormultt (5470 posts) - - Show Bio
@stevepidge said:
"@xyrzrockrain:    TOAA exists out side of the multiverse that all the below exist. They cannot even sense his existence until he crumbles them up like paper, recycled and reused as toilet paper. "

exactly, and it doeswnt even matter, if the DC idiots try to oppose him hed still spank them like 3 yr olds.
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#41 Posted by Omnithian (390 posts) - - Show Bio

This has to be waged in a nuetral dimension I'm guessing.. soo.. if this is true.. then.. 
TOAA kills everyone... except for the Presence... 
 
The Presence must've really just wanted all of those others to be killed because that's what he wanted to rule over their actualities.. lol....

Seriously though... PR Beyonder is just a younger inexperienced version of TOAA... TOAA owns by sheer experience.. not to mention that TOAA possess omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, and beyond that... somethings I don't remember PR beyonder practicing or using very often if he did...  
 
Man of Miracles will befall the same fate as PR Beyonder..

HOTU... TOAA can just unmake it.. suposedly it's on the level of TOAA.. but TOAA didn't interfere with it.. which obviously leads to the point that it wasn't a concern for TOAA because of his total omniscience and omnipotence...

The Presence may actually win here.. due to the fact that his actuality came to be prior to TOAA's... and his multiverse is full of more powerful beings which continues to expand by acquiring other actualities... he has the experience to possibly win here... 
 
The PRESENCE FTW... via acquisition... or stalemate...

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#42 Posted by xyrzrockrain (1128 posts) - - Show Bio
@Omnithian:  
 
The Presence does not fight here. 
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#43 Posted by xXSilowXx (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel Multiverse = TOAA WINS
 
every other universe, hes nothing! I'll kick hes ass, myself

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#44 Posted by stevepidge (411 posts) - - Show Bio
@xXSilowXx said:
" Marvel Multiverse = TOAA WINS  every other universe, hes nothing! I'll kick hes ass, myself "
Only because you exist in his universe. But would you really hit an old man?
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#45 Posted by xXSilowXx (121 posts) - - Show Bio
@stevepidge said:
" @xXSilowXx said:
" Marvel Multiverse = TOAA WINS  every other universe, hes nothing! I'll kick hes ass, myself "
Only because you exist in his universe. But would you really hit an old man? "
Hell yea!!!
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#46 Posted by Stormultt (5470 posts) - - Show Bio
@xXSilowXx said:
" @stevepidge said:
" @xXSilowXx said:
" Marvel Multiverse = TOAA WINS  every other universe, hes nothing! I'll kick hes ass, myself "
Only because you exist in his universe. But would you really hit an old man? "
Hell yea!!! "

hope he whoops your ass back...XD
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#47 Posted by xXSilowXx (121 posts) - - Show Bio
@Stormultt said:
" @xXSilowXx said:
" @stevepidge said:
" @xXSilowXx said:
" Marvel Multiverse = TOAA WINS  every other universe, hes nothing! I'll kick hes ass, myself "
Only because you exist in his universe. But would you really hit an old man? "
Hell yea!!! "
hope he whoops your ass back...XD "
good luck on that. I hope him all the best to kick my ass.
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#48 Posted by Power NeXus (10283 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA is called The One Above All for a reason. 
 
TOAA stomps.
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#49 Posted by DEGRAAF (8400 posts) - - Show Bio

wouldnt it come down to THE- ONE-ABOVE-ALL against DC's PRESENCE? 
 
They are basically the same being in two differant universes.
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#50 Posted by ultimatewarrior123 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xan said:
"His omnipotent so he wins or he get's a draw. He can't lose. "

Perfectly said, when omnipotent you do not tire, or experience pain, in fact he should actually win, the others would be wiped out instantly, whereas the beyonder will be outsmarted.