So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?
The Juggernaut vs The Sentry
"Even in the Earths atmosphere Sentry can travelfast enough that within the battlefield he could attack Juggs before Juggs neural impulses could tell him somehting was going on. This forcefield didnt stop Hulk from grabbing him? Didnt leave Hulk frozen?"he didn't have it on then. For the purposes of this fight it is on. Once again, the same way sentry doesn't just burrow under and toss every opponent into space, yet he is in this fight.
"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?So why do you bother posting?
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?
"
"hulk won that fight by bfr? that's news to me."Good at putting words in my mouth. I like that.
Vendel said:
"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?Nothing. Just making Juggernaut look like a fool, I guess.
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?"
"the human Juggernaut said:lol, the latent anger of static shock resurfaces. Hulk didn't win by BFR in either of those 2 fights. What do they prove again?"hulk won that fight by bfr? that's news to me."Good at putting words in my mouth. I like that.
Vendel said:"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?Nothing. Just making Juggernaut look like a fool, I guess.
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?"
"
"Vendel said:"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?So why do you bother posting?
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?
"Nobody takes you seriously."
I didn't know you cared so much Vance. Way to avoid the question though.
"lol, the latent anger of static shock resurfaces. Hulk didn't win by BFR in either of those 2 fights. What do they prove again?"LOL. You know? I'm beginning to question why you think I'm angry in the first place. Would you like to see a smiley!? How about 2 of them? And, when did I say the Hulk defeated Juggs through BFR? Would you like to go back into the thread and tell me where I said that? Or does your unconditional love for Juggernaut have you taking things out of context? Does your infatuation with Cain Marko have you getting Hulk and Sentry mixed up? Does it make you mad that you can't argue against me? Admit it. You're a joke. :)
"Vance Astro said:There is no point of answering the question...whatever answer I give it's negative to Juggernaut your going to sugar coat it..so i'm not bothering with you."Vendel said:"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?So why do you bother posting?
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?
"Nobody takes you seriously."
I didn't know you cared so much Vance. Way to avoid the question though."
"Vendel said:"Vance Astro said:There is no point of answering the question...whatever answer I give it's negative to Juggernaut your going to sugar coat it..so i'm not bothering with you.""Vendel said:"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?So why do you bother posting?
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?
"Nobody takes you seriously."
I didn't know you cared so much Vance. Way to avoid the question though."
In other words you have no real argument your just throwing a fit?
C'mon do be like that Vance. I am a reasonable man. Just admit your mistakes and I will forgive you.
"the human Juggernaut said:because your own argument against my point can be used against you. You say that juggernaut doesn't always have his shield on. I can say that sentry never just goes under someone and throws them into space."elaborate please"Why would anybody waste their time?"
"Vance Astro said:In other words your fanboyish douchebag who can't except his favorite character can't win."Vendel said:"Vance Astro said:There is no point of answering the question...whatever answer I give it's negative to Juggernaut your going to sugar coat it..so i'm not bothering with you.""Vendel said:"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?So why do you bother posting?
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?
"Nobody takes you seriously."
I didn't know you cared so much Vance. Way to avoid the question though."
In other words you have no real argument your just throwing a fit?
C'mon do be like that Vance. I am a reasonable man. Just admit your mistakes and I will forgive you.
"
The first one proved that the Hulk got a hold of Jugs before he had his forcefield up, threw him into a hill/mountain, and Juggernaut was down long enough for the slow-witted Hulk to consider the fight over. Juggernaut doesn't enter fights with his Forcefield up. If you want to say he has it up from the moment he knows the fight starts, couldn't Sentry with his huge speed advantage throw him into the Sun before he knows what happened? If you're going on what their actual powers are (not how they're written) Sentry could either end it before Juggernaut knew what happened or avoid him so Jugs wouldn't even know he was there. As far as the controlling momentum train of thought, please tell me you're kidding. Juggernaut cannot freeze people. This is the worst arguement you 2 put up. It's never happened. It's never been said to be a possibility. Don't just invent powers, it takes away your credibility...
" Static Shock said:Sentry doesn't have to launch Juggernaut into space to win.Another country would be off the battlefield...."the human Juggernaut said:because your own argument against my point can be used against you. You say that juggernaut doesn't always have his shield on. I can say that sentry never just goes under someone and throws them into space.""elaborate please"Why would anybody waste their time?"
"Vendel said:"Vance Astro said:In other words your fanboyish douchebag who can't except his favorite character can't win."Vendel said:"Vance Astro said:There is no point of answering the question...whatever answer I give it's negative to Juggernaut your going to sugar coat it..so i'm not bothering with you.""Vendel said:"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?So why do you bother posting?
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?
"Nobody takes you seriously."
I didn't know you cared so much Vance. Way to avoid the question though."
In other words you have no real argument your just throwing a fit?
C'mon do be like that Vance. I am a reasonable man. Just admit your mistakes and I will forgive you.
"Don't make stupid ass assumptions...Your only trying to provoke me because I won't bother to argue with your stupid ass posts."
Why would I try and provoke you Vance? Surely nothing like that would work on one as level headed as yourself.
" The first one proved that the Hulk got a hold of Jugs before he had his forcefield up, threw him into a hill/mountain, and Juggernaut was down long enough for the slow-witted Hulk to consider the fight over. Juggernaut doesn't enter fights with his Forcefield up. If you want to say he has it up from the moment he knows the fight starts, couldn't Sentry with his huge speed advantage throw him into the Sun before he knows what happened? If you're going on what their actual powers are (not how they're written) Sentry could either end it before Juggernaut knew what happened or avoid him so Jugs wouldn't even know he was there. As far as the controlling momentum train of thought, please tell me you're kidding. Juggernaut cannot freeze people. This is the worst arguement you 2 put up. It's never happened. It's never been said to be a possibility. Don't just invent powers, it takes away your credibility..."
<<<<dialogue up there. Top right incase you can't see it. Learn about characters before you post about them. It might help your credibility
"Vance Astro said:Why ask?"Vendel said:"Vance Astro said:In other words your fanboyish douchebag who can't except his favorite character can't win."Vendel said:"Vance Astro said:There is no point of answering the question...whatever answer I give it's negative to Juggernaut your going to sugar coat it..so i'm not bothering with you.""Vendel said:"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?So why do you bother posting?
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?
"Nobody takes you seriously."
I didn't know you cared so much Vance. Way to avoid the question though."
In other words you have no real argument your just throwing a fit?
C'mon do be like that Vance. I am a reasonable man. Just admit your mistakes and I will forgive you.
"Don't make stupid ass assumptions...Your only trying to provoke me because I won't bother to argue with your stupid ass posts."
Why would I try and provoke you Vance? Surely nothing like that would work on one as level headed as yourself.
"
"because your own argument against my point can be used against you. You say that juggernaut doesn't always have his shield on. I can say that sentry never just goes under someone and throws them into space."So, you don't think Hulk and Sentry are the same person anymore? Neat.
buhdlight said:
" The first one proved that the Hulk got a hold of Jugs before he had his forcefield up, threw him into a hill/mountain, and Juggernaut was down long enough for the slow-witted Hulk to consider the fight over. Juggernaut doesn't enter fights with his Forcefield up. If you want to say he has it up from the moment he knows the fight starts, couldn't Sentry with his huge speed advantage throw him into the Sun before he knows what happened? If you're going on what their actual powers are (not how they're written) Sentry could either end it before Juggernaut knew what happened or avoid him so Jugs wouldn't even know he was there. As far as the controlling momentum train of thought, please tell me you're kidding. Juggernaut cannot freeze people. This is the worst arguement you 2 put up. It's never happened. It's never been said to be a possibility. Don't just invent powers, it takes away your credibility..."
I don't know you, but you have my respect.
"Vendel said:"Vance Astro said:Why ask?""Vendel said:"Vance Astro said:In other words your fanboyish douchebag who can't except his favorite character can't win."Vendel said:"Vance Astro said:There is no point of answering the question...whatever answer I give it's negative to Juggernaut your going to sugar coat it..so i'm not bothering with you.""Vendel said:"So what do those scans have to do with the argument at hand?So why do you bother posting?
Besides the fact that Hulk needs a Deus Ex to "beat" The Juggernaut?
"Nobody takes you seriously."
I didn't know you cared so much Vance. Way to avoid the question though."
In other words you have no real argument your just throwing a fit?
C'mon do be like that Vance. I am a reasonable man. Just admit your mistakes and I will forgive you.
"Don't make stupid ass assumptions...Your only trying to provoke me because I won't bother to argue with your stupid ass posts."
Why would I try and provoke you Vance? Surely nothing like that would work on one as level headed as yourself.
"
Why not?
"Sentry doesn't have to launch Juggernaut into space to win.Another country would be off the battlefield...."Kudos.
"the human Juggernaut said:lol, you respect what's been proven false? neat."because your own argument against my point can be used against you. You say that juggernaut doesn't always have his shield on. I can say that sentry never just goes under someone and throws them into space."So, you don't think Hulk and Sentry are the same person anymore? Neat.
buhdlight said:" The first one proved that the Hulk got a hold of Jugs before he had his forcefield up, threw him into a hill/mountain, and Juggernaut was down long enough for the slow-witted Hulk to consider the fight over. Juggernaut doesn't enter fights with his Forcefield up. If you want to say he has it up from the moment he knows the fight starts, couldn't Sentry with his huge speed advantage throw him into the Sun before he knows what happened? If you're going on what their actual powers are (not how they're written) Sentry could either end it before Juggernaut knew what happened or avoid him so Jugs wouldn't even know he was there. As far as the controlling momentum train of thought, please tell me you're kidding. Juggernaut cannot freeze people. This is the worst arguement you 2 put up. It's never happened. It's never been said to be a possibility. Don't just invent powers, it takes away your credibility..."
I don't know you, but you have my respect."
" The first one proved that the Hulk got a hold of Jugs before he had his forcefield up, threw him into a hill/mountain, and Juggernaut was down long enough for the slow-witted Hulk to consider the fight over. Juggernaut doesn't enter fights with his Forcefield up. If you want to say he has it up from the moment he knows the fight starts, couldn't Sentry with his huge speed advantage throw him into the Sun before he knows what happened? If you're going on what their actual powers are (not how they're written) Sentry could either end it before Juggernaut knew what happened or avoid him so Jugs wouldn't even know he was there. As far as the controlling momentum train of thought, please tell me you're kidding. Juggernaut cannot freeze people. This is the worst arguement you 2 put up. It's never happened. It's never been said to be a possibility. Don't just invent powers, it takes away your credibility..."also, read thor vs juggernaut 1. He had his forcefield up the entire time in that fight, except for the part where thor magically disabled it.
If you're going on what their actual powers are (not how they're written)DING!
You answered your own question.
If we go by actual powers then Sentry could not get anywhere near Juggernaut. Sentry cannot get through his force field. And he can use it to kill the speed of anything that comes near.
This is what I mean by people always using Juggernaut at his lowest possible abilities in these threads. While the other goes all out.
"lol, you respect what's been proven false? neat."Nothing was proven false. And, because you lack the intelligence to see it, I'm not gonna address it again (I dropped it like a page ago).
"the human Juggernaut said:and were back to you ignoring the evidence put right infront of your face again."lol, you respect what's been proven false? neat."Nothing was proven false. And, because you lack the intelligence to see it, I'm not gonna address it again (I dropped it like a page ago)."
"Zoom said:It's fine with me if you believe that. I won't necessarily argue otherwise.And Sentry doesn't use his super speed nearly as much as he does in these fights.
Either everybody's going all out and using their abilities in the best ways possible or both of them are acting like they are in the comics.
You can't say Juggernaut won't have his forcefield up but Sentry will immediately throw Juggernaut into the sun. That's silly."
He can have the force field up and still be BFRed."
I'm just saying, both characters should be playing by the same rules or it isn't a fair fight and you were acting like they were playing by different rules.
HJ: Are we seriously using stuff from that Juggernaut/Thor fight? Isn't that the same fight where Thor took away Jugg's force field and suddenly Cain wasn't invulnerable anymore? I mean, that issue was kinda epic but there were so many bs things taking place in it that I say the issue needs to just be ignored across the board. I don't see Juggs really having a power that could freeze Sentry in place.
Static: Majority doesn't rule. We've got too many stupid people here (and in most places, to be fair) to really call that. I could probably convince 10 or so people to post on a Superman vs Wolverine thread that Wolverine would win just for the heck of it and a few fanboys would post that anyway but it wouldn't make it so. Granted, you might be right about Sentry winning. But just because more people say that than vice versa definately does not prove it.
Vendel: Lol at Hulk needing a deus ex to beat Juggernaut. So true.
buh: Duh, Juggernaut doesn't enter fights with his forcefield. Sentry doesn't enter fights by throwing people into the sun either. Again, the combatants have to play by the same rules. You can't change them to suit the character you want to win. Unless you started the thread, but that's still frowned upon. For the record, I don't respect you.
"Garbage."What evidence? That Juggernaut freezing things? LOL. Clearly, that Hammer wasn't frozen. If it was, the Hammer wouldn't return to Thor. That's the whole point of sapping momentum from a moving object. But, I guess the force field can feed momentum too, right? But, it's cool, though. I'm ignoring 'evidence' (or garbage) to you. I'll let you have it. Are you finished?
"the human Juggernaut said:....are you unable to read? he let it go back so he could hitch a ride."Garbage."What evidence? That Juggernaut freezing things? LOL. Clearly, that Hammer wasn't frozen. If it was, the Hammer wouldn't return to Thor. That's the whole point of sapping momentum from a moving object. But, I guess the force field can feed momentum too, right? But, it's cool, though. I'm ignoring 'evidence' (or garbage) to you. I'll let you have it. Are you finished?"
"Static: Majority doesn't rule. We've got too many stupid people here (and in most places, to be fair) to really call that. I could probably convince 10 or so people to post on a Superman vs Wolverine thread that Wolverine would win just for the heck of it and a few fanboys would post that anyway but it wouldn't make it so. Granted, you might be right about Sentry winning. But just because more people say that than vice versa definately does not prove it.I know. LOL. I was just messing around.
"....are you unable to read? he let it go back so he could hitch a ride."So, the force field feeds momentum, right? Answer the question, you ignoramus. LOL. He said the Hammer was returning, not that he let it go back.
"Static Shock said:It does if you have proven to the majority that a character wins.In general people having the same opinion doesn't make it so but if people are saying Sentry wins based on Static's argument than majority does rule."Zoom said:Static: Majority doesn't rule.And Sentry doesn't use his super speed nearly as much as he does in these fights.
Either everybody's going all out and using their abilities in the best ways possible or both of them are acting like they are in the comics.
You can't say Juggernaut won't have his forcefield up but Sentry will immediately throw Juggernaut into the sun. That's silly."
He can have the force field up and still be BFRed."
"the human Juggernaut said:...he let it go. Just so you know, he doesn't have to have a thought box saying "ok, i shall now release the hammer" in order for him to let it go. Where did you get feeds momentum from?"....are you unable to read? he let it go back so he could hitch a ride."So, the force field feeds momentum, right? Answer the question, you ignoramus. LOL. He said the Hammer was returning, not that he let it go back."
"It does if you have proven to the majority that a character wins.In general people having the same opinion doesn't make it so but if people are saying Sentry wins based on Static's argument than majority does rule."LOL.
Hm. The Juggernaut needs to catch Sentry in order to take him out. but let's face it. Sentry can fly.
"Hm. The Juggernaut needs to catch Sentry in order to take him out. but let's face it. Sentry can fly."I hate you so much....
"Zoom said:Was that the one where he sent him to another dimension? Thor's solutions for beating the Juggernaut make my head hurt.
HJ: Are we seriously using stuff from that Juggernaut/Thor fight? Isn't that the same fight where Thor took away Jugg's force field and suddenly Cain wasn't invulnerable anymore?
That was the second fight. Those scans are from the first one."
Toss him a few miles where he'll surely continue his rampage. Send him to another dimension where he'll kill everyone there instead of here.
Guy's almost as good at copping out of a fight as Sentry.
I kid! I kid! Sentry's much better at copping out of fights. ;-)
"Hm. The Juggernaut needs to catch Sentry in order to take him out. but let's face it. Sentry can fly."he could just catch him at home on one of his "i don't want to leave the house" days.
"Vendel said:Yea...because he writes his own comics...."Zoom said:I kid! I kid! Sentry's much better at copping out of fights. ;-)"
HJ: Are we seriously using stuff from that Juggernaut/Thor fight? Isn't that the same fight where Thor took away Jugg's force field and suddenly Cain wasn't invulnerable anymore?
That was the second fight. Those scans are from the first one."
"...he let it go. Just so you know, he doesn't have to have a thought box saying "ok, i shall now release the hammer" in order for him to let it go. Where did you get feeds momentum from?"No, he didn't. The Hammer was returning on it's own, like it normally does. Cain said nothing about him letting the Hammer go, but he did say the Hammer is returning to his hand. He said that remembered reading about the Hammer returning to Thor. That alone implied that the Hammer was returning on it's own. And, you're the one that made seem as if the force field does that. So, I just want you to clarify that it doesn't.
"the human Juggernaut said:yes, juggernaut let the hammer go. The hammer returned to thor on its own."...he let it go. Just so you know, he doesn't have to have a thought box saying "ok, i shall now release the hammer" in order for him to let it go. Where did you get feeds momentum from?"No, he didn't. The Hammer was returning on it's own, like it normally does. Cain said nothing about him letting the Hammer go, but he did say the Hammer is returning to his hand. He said that remembered reading about the Hammer returning to Thor. That alone implied that the Hammer was returning on it's own. And, you're the one that made seem as if the force field does that. So, I just want you to clarify that it doesn't."
"Lance Bastro said:He won't be that lazy to cop a fight when he's Void."Hm. The Juggernaut needs to catch Sentry in order to take him out. but let's face it. Sentry can fly."he could just catch him at home on one of his "i don't want to leave the house" days."
"yes, juggernaut let the hammer go. The hammer returned to thor on its own."Wow. Just... Wow. So, the force field traps things now?
"the human Juggernaut said:....if he wants it to. It can also repel objects. See an eye doctor I guess, or take some remedial reading classes, since the scan makes it abundantly clear."yes, juggernaut let the hammer go. The hammer returned to thor on its own."Wow. Just... Wow. So, the force field traps things now?"
<<<top right. Let me type out what he says for you. "My personal force field is already affecting your dumb mallet! Slowing it down! Killing its momentum!"
"the human Juggernaut said:Are you talking about the juggernaut's forcefield? It does alot of things, doesn't it? It's a "magical" forcefield right?"yes, juggernaut let the hammer go. The hammer returned to thor on its own."Wow. Just... Wow. So, the force field traps things now?"
"Static Shock said:yes, it is magical."the human Juggernaut said:Are you talking about the juggernaut's forcefield? It does alot of things, doesn't it? It's a "magical" forcefield right?""yes, juggernaut let the hammer go. The hammer returned to thor on its own."Wow. Just... Wow. So, the force field traps things now?"
"Lance Bastro said:Cool. Cowabunga dude."Static Shock said:yes, it is magical.""the human Juggernaut said:Are you talking about the juggernaut's forcefield? It does alot of things, doesn't it? It's a "magical" forcefield right?""yes, juggernaut let the hammer go. The hammer returned to thor on its own."Wow. Just... Wow. So, the force field traps things now?"
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