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#1 Posted by Copy (8364 posts) - - Show Bio

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#2 Posted by Methos (40531 posts) - - Show Bio

Jackie, every time...

The Darkness is overkill against most beings

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#3 Posted by ZORN (1560 posts) - - Show Bio

Who read unholy union? it was a crossover between the ghost rider,hulk,and dr strnge.

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#4 Posted by Psyker star (3502 posts) - - Show Bio

The darkness in a close fight

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#5 Posted by whacknasty (5861 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd probably go with the Darkness too.  I do have a question though...  Does the Hellfire GR uses burn like regular fire as well, andnot just souls?  Could he set a massive amount of things on fireand the light fro mthe fire weaken Jackie?  Or does it have to be sunlight?
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#6 Posted by Zoom (14751 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider, easily. 
 
Darkness is weakened by strong light and Ghost Rider? 
 
Well he's an expert at creating light. 
 

 
 
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#7 Posted by Psyker star (3502 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom: 
 Ghost rider should not be able to do that in this fight and i dont think that would happen right away The Darkness might be able to kill him before he could do that
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#8 Posted by The Phoenix Child (573 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree... 
The only chance Ghost Rider gets is when he will be close to Jackie but that won't be happen because GR won't even get that chance.

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#9 Edited by Zoom (14751 posts) - - Show Bio
@Psyker star said:

" @Zoom:   Ghost rider should not be able to do that in this fight and i dont think that would happen right away The Darkness might be able to kill him before he could do that "

Should not be able to do that?  He does it all the time.  His favorite moves are smashing things with his chain and blasting them with hellfire.
 
 
And it doesn't matter if he does it right away or not.  The Darkness can barely scratch the Ghost Rider.  You think guns and his little darkling things can hurt Blaze?  To laugh.  Rip off Ghost Riders head and a new one grows in its place.  Punch a hole in his stomach and hellfire reforms it.  The Darkness isn't gonna kill the Rider before he gets close.  The Darkness won't be able to kill the Rider at all.
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#10 Posted by Zoom (14751 posts) - - Show Bio


 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 

Healing and Hellfire. 
 
Like I said.  Ghost Rider.  Stomp.
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#11 Posted by Spawn Godslayer (218 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider!

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#12 Posted by MOONKNIGHT-LANTERN (385 posts) - - Show Bio

ghost rider after finding out that darkness is weak against light

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#13 Posted by ghostrider fan1 (883 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider all the way especially if its Dan Ketch but even then Johnny would kick his ass around town

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#14 Edited by JackAs (442 posts) - - Show Bio

Is the Italian that powerful? I stopped reading the comics after the bland plots and shitty fight scenes.

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#15 Posted by DeathDefyingDevil (796 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider would win but I like the Darkness better

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#16 Posted by ghostrider fan1 (883 posts) - - Show Bio
@ZORN: have you? ive been tryin to find out. if u have plz tell me wat happens
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#17 Posted by the darknessss (3266 posts) - - Show Bio

the darkness,easy,that power gives lucifer shivers.
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#18 Posted by Zoom (14751 posts) - - Show Bio
@the darknessss said:
"the darkness,easy,that power gives lucifer shivers. "

Make an arguement.  If you just show up and say the opposite of what everyone else thinks, people will assume you just don't know what you're talking about.
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#19 Posted by Captain13 (4695 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider.

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#20 Posted by DeathsHead2 (1739 posts) - - Show Bio

Jackie will BURN! ;)

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#21 Posted by LordStoop (541 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider easy! Poor Jacky done some bad thing in the past. He's gonna relive all that hurt he has caused.

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#22 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost rider

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#23 Posted by dee23 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Considering Jackie is amorale and has killed people who were in his way like officials and law enforcers. His hands have much blood on them. Ghost Rider would finish Jackie leaving the Darkness hostless. Ghost Rider(Danny Ketch) would give him the Penance Stare. End game!

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#24 Posted by ghost_rider1 (4135 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost rider

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#25 Posted by xeon1cs (1483 posts) - - Show Bio

@dee23 said:

Considering Jackie is amorale and has killed people who were in his way like officials and law enforcers. His hands have much blood on them. Ghost Rider would finish Jackie leaving the Darkness hostless. Ghost Rider(Danny Ketch) would give him the Penance Stare. End game!

Penance Stare doesn't work on people with symbiotes. Jackie wears a full suit of Darkness, it should have the same affect.

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#26 Posted by dee23 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

@whacknasty: I'd go with Ghost Rider he did kill Black Heart after all and Estacado would not have been a match for Black Heart. The Darkness is a relatively new comic character who has probably been inspired by the likes of Black Heart, who seems to have the same abilities and more. Black Heart summoned demons, could alter his size, travel in and out of dimensions, spiritual plains and Ghost Rider crushed his skull in anger. I can't help but think Ghost Rider is being hugely underestimated.

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#27 Posted by dee23 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Phoenix Child: If Ghost Rider can kill Black Heart he can defeat Estacado. The Darkness can't be killed but without Estacado there would be no darkness in our plain(Earthly realm). Estacado isn't a demon like Black Heart, he's a man with emotions, capable feeling guilt and fear. Penance stare would see that Estacado didn't come back. He would be reduced to ash and with out a soul, incapable of returning from death to host the darkness.

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#28 Posted by GhostRider2 (4864 posts) - - Show Bio

What on earth is Darkness going to do to GR?I tell you what, nothing.....GR owns.

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#29 Posted by dondave (41360 posts) - - Show Bio

@GhostRider2: he can make his Darkling eat GR from the inside

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#30 Posted by GhostRider2 (4864 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: still it won't kill or ko him.

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#31 Posted by NeonGameWave (19273 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider burns Jackie from the inside, out and Jackie dies horribly.

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#32 Posted by The_darknessII (2 posts) - - Show Bio

The Darkness would win. GR is satins creation and if you red the very first Darkness comics you know that the darkness can come into this realm without a host, also the darkness "was his teacher." Talking about the devil. The Darkness has been around long before the earth, in the begening there was void and Darkess and that's how it liked it. GR is still half human you forget this he isn't always GR, but Jackie is always basically the Darkness. Jackie dies, the darkness puts him in the Darknesses mind a sorta hell. When the Darkness heals Jackie he puts him in his body. If Jackie is in any danger the darkness pulls him out because, "the host must not die." The darkness does need a host but Jackie is basically a God. While GR is in human form he is vulnerable, while Jackie is never vulnerable. All he has to do is attack GR while he is in human form and Darkness wins. Darkness is strong enough to kill the four horsemen of the apacolypse, (which were made by God) then he can kill satins toys too. :)

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#33 Posted by chiq (3039 posts) - - Show Bio

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#34 Edited by GhostRider2 (4864 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_darknessii: what are you talking about?Also whats with the four horsemen?They are cool(big darksiders fan also) but they got nothing on GR, and the darkness is not that strong, he can't take on them.

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#37 Edited by The_Titan_Lord (8119 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider.

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#38 Posted by Strider1992 (18176 posts) - - Show Bio
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#39 Posted by The_darknessII (2 posts) - - Show Bio

In one of The Darkness comics, Jackie takes on the four horsemen and win. The Darkness is the exact opposite of God. Angels can't kill The Darkness, I doubt even God could kill him cause they are two apposing forces and same goes to The Darkness he can't kill God. But GR is an angel and The Darkness has killed many angels sent by the Angelus. The Darkness can summon absolutely anything he can imagine. Just like his fight with superman he made a giant dragon and was on par with super man. If he can do that what makes you think he can't kill GR?

Side note: GR stare wont work cause Jackie does not regret killing anybody he enjoys splitting peoples skulls sometimes and he often loses consciousness while The Darkness takes over and kills everything for him.

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#40 Posted by Sebast_Allen (2542 posts) - - Show Bio

In one of The Darkness comics, Jackie takes on the four horsemen and win. The Darkness is the exact opposite of God. Angels can't kill The Darkness, I doubt even God could kill him cause they are two apposing forces and same goes to The Darkness he can't kill God. But GR is an angel and The Darkness has killed many angels sent by the Angelus. The Darkness can summon absolutely anything he can imagine. Just like his fight with superman he made a giant dragon and was on par with super man. If he can do that what makes you think he can't kill GR?

Side note: GR stare wont work cause Jackie does not regret killing anybody he enjoys splitting peoples skulls sometimes and he often loses consciousness while The Darkness takes over and kills everything for him.

Lol, as if any angels he fights are on GR's level, GR kills high angels and high demons, he beat half of the devil, weakened he could have beaten mephisto, darkness not touching him, hellfire is touching jackie

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#41 Edited by The_Titan_Lord (8119 posts) - - Show Bio

I think GR takes this.

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#42 Posted by Wyldsong (7888 posts) - - Show Bio

Two awesome characters that I love...I refuse to participate=P

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#43 Edited by chiq (3039 posts) - - Show Bio

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#45 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (23592 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally when it comes to power, both are near equals, but when it comes to tailored powerset a vs the others, well that's all GR. He is perfect counter to Jackie.

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#46 Posted by chiq (3039 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally when it comes to power, both are near equals, but when it comes to tailored powerset a vs the others, well that's all GR. He is perfect counter to Jackie.

What specific powers of GR make him a perfect counter for Jackie?

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#47 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (23592 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq said:
@sirfizzwhizz said:

Personally when it comes to power, both are near equals, but when it comes to tailored powerset a vs the others, well that's all GR. He is perfect counter to Jackie.

What specific powers of GR make him a perfect counter for Jackie?

Soul attacks and being made of Hell Fire. There is no Darkness to manipulate in GR, and GR has better regen than even Jackie being made of reality warping Hellfire. Penance Stare would burn Jackie soul for all the evil he done, payed back to him x10. Normal Hellfire will soul burn Jackie alone.

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#48 Edited by chiq (3039 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz said:
@chiq said:
@sirfizzwhizz said:

Personally when it comes to power, both are near equals, but when it comes to tailored powerset a vs the others, well that's all GR. He is perfect counter to Jackie.

What specific powers of GR make him a perfect counter for Jackie?

Soul attacks and being made of Hell Fire. There is no Darkness to manipulate in GR, and GR has better regen than even Jackie being made of reality warping Hellfire. Penance Stare would burn Jackie soul for all the evil he done, payed back to him x10. Normal Hellfire will soul burn Jackie alone.

Interesting. I was curious what it would take to harm Jackie since I participated in a great thread involving Jackie and GR that I totally forgot about.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/top-cow-trinity-vs-marvel-magic-team-1524269/

I asked @wyldsong if Soul attacks and Hellfire would work on Jackie and this was his reply:

@chiq: Let me see...Jackie is technically truly one with the Darkness currently, and his soul and the souls of Finch and Sara basically belong to their artifacts. The Witchblade has also proven to be quite magic resistant, and I would say it has it's abstract parentage to thank for that. And we have seen someone try to drain the lifeforce of the Angelus, and they couldn't because there was too much power there...personally, I would think the soul attack and life drain would be a no go.

So I have always wondered what it took to take Jackie out.

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#49 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (23592 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq: Wyldsong say it will fail, I dont. The Penance Stare and Hellfire work on beings like Blackheart, Mephisto, Thor, and even Dr. Strange.

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#50 Posted by chiq (3039 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: If Jackie was in the Marvel Universe how powerful would he be? Herald? Hell Lord? Sky Father?