The Boss and Big Boss vs Albert Wesker

@reptilicus: Does not matter if the gun had poor accuracy.She shot and was about to hit him point blank and he clearly dodged it.He in fact dodged it by moving his head to the side.

He did not dodge her aim either I re watched the clip and he clearly evaded the bullet itself.

Nope, there is no known bow to spit an arrow at even 500 MPHs. One of the bows the Fear has is actually based on a real bow (William Tell), and it has nowhere near the velocity of 500 MPHs. Now the other bow is unknown, but I highly doubt it's superior to modern bows.

Again, that is questionable. They could have just recorded the cutscene that way to make it look cool. It's like how Vamp's moves didn't knock Raiden off the top of Rex; when in truth, we know Vamp has more than enough of striking power and such to accomplish. There's no logical way Big Boss can move his limbs at bullet speed, without displaying that speed through other ways. Look at when he fights someone, say the Boss and Volgin, he's moving at peak human or a little over it at the best. Big Boss barely even dodged the shagohod by rolling over to the side.

And did you notice the camera switched to Solid Snake ONLY after she had already fired? Snake could've already inched his head enough to dodge her shot before she fired. In fact, when the camera switched onto Snake, he was already moving to the side.

@reptilicus: it might have done that but it clearly showed that he dodged the bullet. He was shown to be moving away from it when it was about a feet or two away from himself.Its quite clear that he did that and I don't see why your trying to debunk this.

And if Batman can sneak up on Kryptonians then he shouldn't be surprise KOd by a hobo with an empty bottle. And if Captain America can tank hits from the Hulk then he shouldn't be taken down by a gun butt to the back of the head. And if Deathstroke can weave through a hailstorm of machine gun fire from the mob then he shouldn't be hit in the leg with a pistol that one time. You see where I'm going?

Also that statement about Vamp is ridiculously misinformed. Vamp has no where near as much strength as Raiden, stating that he does is a gross misunderstanding of the character. He fought Cyborg Raiden twice and played it defensive each time.

And Big Boss's combat speed is just as fast as his reflexes. In Peace Walker, he was able to disarm and defeat an entire CIA combat squad before any of the soldiers could react to pull the trigger, using only close quarters combat. The Shagohad example is, again, grossly out of context and misinformed. The thing was literally a couple inches away by the time Big Boss leaped; and he had to clear several meters of space to fully evade the mech. When the Shagohad is powered by rocket technology and can speed fast enough to drive vertically up the side of a collapsing bridge and several yards into the air, dodging it really is not a bad feat.

As it stands, there is nothing to say Albert Wesker is out of the Legendary Soldiers' leagues. He gets a lot of hype because he can move faster than the eye can see - whooptie doo. Solid Snake speedblitzed Meryl Silverburgh while she was under Psycho Mantis's control before she could pull the trigger. The same Meryl who could react to mach speed M4 bullets at extremely close range, could not react to Solid Snake. That's combat speed. Wesker's reflexes aren't actually that great in comparison to his movement speed.

Snake moving before Olga fired doesn't mean he can dodge bullets. That means he can aim dodge. Like I said, it didn't show what Snake did before Olga fired. And when it did show him, he was already moving. This suggest aim dodging at its best.

Have you ever heard of the term bad writing? And unlike comic characters, there's just one Big Boss. There's not alternative versions of him and such, written by entirely different people.

Where did I mention anything about strength? Vamp sent Raiden flying in their first fight, and even had the speed to jump on top of Rex. Vamp had the speed needed to easily send Raiden flying with a move off the top of Rex, but he didn't because he was written not to. Take for example how the Boss's punches stunned Big Boss to the point he barely fought back against Volgin; did they sent him flying? Nope. In the same game Big Boss went flying in to a tree, and then fell off of it, but didn't even get knocked out.

YES, a unit of soldiers with no intentions of trying to kill him. If that were the purpose, they would have shot him. In matter of fact, even after that scene when several of soldiers surrounded Big Boss, did they shoot at him? Nope. Also it wasn't powered by the boosters when it came at Big Boss. The fact he barely dodged it displays he doesn't have bullet-timing speed. It doesn't matter if it were two inches in front of his face.

Gameplay. There's nothing in the cutscenes showing Solid Snake dodging Meryl when she was under Mantis's control. I've already said if Wesker acts retarded, the Snakes are going to win - they'll use the environment for a win. Maybe drop something on him of some sort. But there's no way their punches are going to harm him.

@reptilicus: The clip clearly shows him moving his head aside when the bullet was about to hit him.He did not dodge her aim. In fact before the bullet got close to him,Snake didn't even move.

Wesker wins, with ease

Hate to burst your bubble but none of these equate to bullet timing.

Video one, Big Boss moves his head out of the way before Ocelot fires. Need proof?

Gallery

First scan you see Big Boss begin to move, by the time Ocelot fires his head is already out of the way, not bullet timing

Second video, you can clearly see the line of the chain gun fire was moving toward them. Big Boss managed to avoid the line of fire, not the bullets themselves.

Need proof?

You can clearly see that it was the line of fire that was heading toward them, that isn't Spiderman style because Parker could of casually danced between each individual bullet, something neither Big Boss nor the Boss nor Solid Snake could do.

That third video isn't bullet timing either, but it doesn't matter anyway because that was a flash back while Big Boss was unconscious.

1:24 seconds in she says "I'm defecting to the Soviet Union, You can't come with us Jack" Do those words sound familiar? That was the exact dialogue she used when they were at the bridge at the start of Snake Eater, not an accurate potrayal of events.

Your last video isn't comparable either, Wesker was able to punch Chris so hard that he flew into a pillar 15 feet behind him, your scan shows Big Boss holding up someone with a knife then throwing him into a crate.

You state Wesker is overhyped but Solid Snake and Metal Gear in general is overrated in particular by you. Know you like Metal Gear Solid But the fact is most of the things you say regarding Metal Gear Solid characters is false, we both know it so you really should stop making so much stuff up, or making wild exaggerations with zero evidence.

No he didn't, Volgin has never taken any bullets or mass explosion outside of gameplay when you fight the Shagohod.

In fact the reason he has all the facial scarring on his face is because of his own electrical current which would be less damaging than any RPG.

Snake only broke those hand cuffs because they were damaged by gunfire.

Even after they were damaged he still took several minutes to break them. This actually puts Snake's physical strength below peak human status.

The fastest compound bow in the world is 400 mph but that's a compound bow with far greater drawing power than a crossbow

Also it states in the Snake Eater Database about the Fears Crossbows

This crossbow pistol fired the dart at a velocity of 50 m/s (170 ft / sec)., or 190 km/h (115.9 mph). Maximum range was said to be 230m (250yards), with excellent accuracy out to 45m (50 yards).

170 ft per second would six times slower than a standard hand gun bullet, Big Boss dodging these is nothing to be proud of and the fact that he got tagged by one is pretty sad. Pretty much shows again that he isn't close to bullet timing status.

Hope that helped, I'm a fan of Metal Gear but there are horribly misinformed people here in particular Nickzambuto.

Where was Big Bosses awesome speed that his fanboys keep bragging about? He doesn't have any impressive speed otherwise he could of easily have blitzed those soldiers that had guns pointed at him.

The same thing happens in Snake Eater

Big Boss gets jumped by four soldiers and admits that he's trapped, until EVA Saves him.

Metal Gear Solid fans are borderline delusional, they won't acknowledge any facts and will keep up this silly notion that Snake is a super human, even though he couldn't break a pair of hand cuffs.

The match wasn't even a match, Gray Fox had wanted to die against Snake, it was even confirmed after the fight on Codec that Fox wanted to die.

Also it was confirmed in Metal Gear Revengance that Fox's suit was heavily flawed because the nerve endings were damaged which is why he was always in pain.

Remember Ocelot completely destroyed Snake in hand to hand by the Volta, and Snake couldn't beat Ocelot without Fox Die, and Liquid nearly killed him before Fox Die got to him, it's unlikely that Snake would of survived against Fox if Fox had wanted to kill him when a weaker and slower character like Ocelot demolished him.

See that orange spark above Olga's gun? That's called muzzle flash, this indicates that the bullet is being ejected from the chamber. Snake is clearly moving out of the way while the gun's flash is still visible. This indicates that it's aim dodging since he needs to stay still and dodge after the flash is gone for it to be bullet timing.

It's right on the border but you can see it when still shots are taken.