Rules:
- Thanos is allowed all unamped feats
- Destroyer is allowed all feats besides when it was animated by Odin
- No Prep
- No Morals
- No BFR
- No TP
- Both Sides Bloodlusted
Rules:
Been done. Destroyer still wins.
Been done. Destroyer still wins.
Been done. Destroyer still wins.
Been done. Destroyer still wins.
@krleavenger: if the Destyoyer is not inhabited, can it even been Blood lusted???
@odin619360: I don't think so.
Been done. Destroyer still wins.
@citizensentry: Reasons?
@citizensentry: Reasons?
Many.
@citizensentry: I got a chuckle from that, but serioulsy though, why you think Thanos wins?
@citizensentry: I got a chuckle from that, but serioulsy though, why you think Thanos wins?
I honestly believe that he has feats to suggest that he can take the victory here.
If someone starts posting feats for Destroyer i'll start posting feats for Thanos, and i'll let the other viners decide who wins.
@lord-parallax: @krleavenger: Who has the Destroyer defeated that Thanos couldn't? What has it done that Thanos couldn't do? What attack does it have that Thanos couldn't defend against?
@p00ty: More than once he pierced through enchanted Uru (mostly Thor's hammer) with his energy projection like knife through butter.
I'll give you some of the top feats for the Destroyer.
Destroyer is shown on the winning end in a fight against Desak
The Destroyer also merged with Desak and Desiginate
Loki W/Destroyer Armor alone managed to solo stomp all of Asgard including Classic Thor
He was described as producing power matching the Heat of Surtur, more potent than a Dozen Suns and being capable of killing Odin
If you need more than ask.
Thanos
I'm sure Thanos can easily outwit the Destroyer armor in a random encounter!!
What's "outwitting" going to do in this battle. And Thanos is bloodlusted here. He's not going to try to "outwit" his opponent.
@p00ty: More than once he one pierced through enchanted Uru (mostly Thor's hammer) with his energy projection like knife through butter.
Scans of multiple times as well as issue numbers?
I'll give you some of the top feats for the Destroyer.
Destroyer is shown on the winning end in a fight against Desak
The Destroyer also merged with Desak and Desiginate
Loki W/Destroyer Armor alone managed to solo stomp all of Asgard including Classic Thor
He was described as producing power matching the Heat of Surtur, more potent than a Dozen Suns and being capable of killing Odin
If you need more than ask.
Destroyer is shown on the winning end in a fight against Desak
I'm fairly certain that Desak ended up beating the Destroyer.
The Destroyer also merged with Desak and Desiginate
Destroyer didn't merge with Desak. Desak defeated the Destroyer and then literally wore the armour. It even shows it in the picture you presented.
Loki W/Destroyer Armor alone managed to solo stomp all of Asgard including Classic Thor
True, and then Odin lolstomped time and basically BFR'd Loki from the armour.
He was described as producing power matching the Heat of Surtur, more potent than a Dozen Suns and being capable of killing Odin
Ehhh? Destroyer armour killing Odin? Feats > Statements.
@citizensentry: I don't really have issue numbers. I'm not a Destroyer expert. And I love Thanos so it is not like I care about Destroyer actually losing.
I'm fairly certain that Desak ended up beating the Destroyer.
That's not what happened. Desak used the God-Jewel to break Loki's control over the Destroyer which then allowed the Desiginate full control over the armor. He never actually defeated the Destroyer. I can give you the issue number if needed. My scans show Destroyer armor clearly gaining the upperhand against Desak.
Desak defeated the Destroyer and then literally wore the armour.
This seems more speculation than anything. I've read the comic and I don't see proof of that.
Ehhh? Destroyer armour killing Odin? Feats > Statements.
It's hard to believe but at the time the armor was controlled by Loki, all the narration statements that and the fact that Odin felt the need to stop time should say something.
@krleavenger: OK. I'm aware of him slicing Mjolnir. I'm only aware of one of those occurrences.
Between Thanos shields which help him survive blast from Omega, Galactus etc. Plus his own durability that helped him survive blast that blew Thor to bits, plus his own energy blast that could possibly block Destroyers blast..... I'm not sure cutting through Mjolnir will finish Thanos. Still thanks for the info
@p00ty: Maybe not. When I think about it, Thanos could win. However, isn't The Destroyer made of enchanted Uru like Thor's hammer which should make it indestructible?
@p00ty: More than once he one pierced through enchanted Uru (mostly Thor's hammer) with his energy projection like knife through butter.
Scans of multiple times as well as issue numbers?
One time was Journey Into Mystery #118 in which the Destroyer was powered by a Random Human
@krleavenger: Destroyer is made of an unknown substance that is more durable then uru. And I think Destroyer has the feats to back that up.
I'm not sure that EITHER can put down the other.
@p00ty: Probably. It could end up with a stalemate.
I'm fairly certain that Desak ended up beating the Destroyer.
That's not what happened. Desak used the God-Jewel to break Loki's control over the Destroyer which then allowed the Desiginate full control over the armor. He never actually defeated the Destroyer I can give you the issue number if needed. My scans how Destroyer armor clearly gaining the upperhand against Desak.
Desak defeated the Destroyer and then literally wore the armour.
This seems more speculation than anything. I've read the comic and I don't see proof of that.
Ehhh? Destroyer armour killing Odin? Feats > Statements.
It's hard to believe but at the time the armor was controlled by Loki, all the narration statements that and the fact that Odin felt the need to stop time should say something.
That's not what happened. Desak used the God-Jewel to break Loki's control over the Destroyer which then allowed the Desiginate full control over the armor. He never actually defeated the Destroyer I can give you the issue number if needed. My scans how Destroyer armor clearly gaining the upperhand against Desak.
Did you read the final issue?
Because literally everyone refers to the "Destroyer" as Desak, because they are aware that, that is not the Destroyer but in fact Desak wearing the Destroyer armour.
This seems more speculation than anything. I've read the comic and I don't see proof of that.
Read above.
It's hard to believe but at the time the armor was controlled by Loki, all the narration statements that and the fact that Odin felt the need to stop time should say something.
Odin stopped time because he could, not because he needed to. Big difference.
Destroyer has only been bested by Skyfather level and above.
Couldn't the same be said for Thanos if we restrict it to just raw power and not plot?
@spideyjust: But this is not Composite Destroyer.
@citizensentry: Actually, I can see this fight ending with a stalemate. I just don't see Thanos putting the Destroyer down. You think he could?
@spideyjust: But this is not Composite Destroyer.
@citizensentry: Actually, I can see this fight ending with a stalemate. I just don't see Thanos putting the Destroyer down. You think he could?
I'm not sure to be honest, if it did end in a stalemate I would personally see Thanos being the better off.
@citizensentry: I see.
Did you read the final issue?
Yes I did read it, Thor Vol 2 #79
Because literally everyone refers to the "Destroyer" as Desak, because they are aware that, that is not the Destroyer but in fact Desak wearing the Destroyer armour.
It's still both Desak and the Destroyer. It's interchangeable. The reason they likely refereed to it as Desak was because of Desak's personality traits in the Destroyer and some of the physical characteristics.
Odin stopped time because he could, not because he needed to. Big difference.
It's more likely that it would have heavily benefited him to stop it and if he didn't that would come with negative results. I'm not sure I'd say he needed it but it was by far the best option. Odin rarely stops time in general. The fact that he did it here should mean something.
@spideyjust: I really have to think about the outcome of this battle.
Did you read the final issue?
Yes I did read it, Thor Vol 2 #79
Because literally everyone refers to the "Destroyer" as Desak, because they are aware that, that is not the Destroyer but in fact Desak wearing the Destroyer armour.
It's still both Desak and the Destroyer. It's interchangeable. The reason they likely refereed to it as Desak was because of Desak's personality traits in the Destroyer and some of the physical characteristics.
Odin stopped time because he could, not because he needed to. Big difference.
It's more likely that it would have heavily benefited him to stop it and if he didn't that would come with negative results. I'm not sure I'd say he needed it but it was by far the best option .Odin rarely stops time in general. The fact that he did it here should mean something.
Yes I did read it, Thor Vol 2 #79
Okay i just found the fight in video form (after some heavy digging)
As you can see, not one person refers to Desak as the Destroyer.
Sif however quite clearly states the following:
It's still both Desak and the Destroyer. It's interchangeable. The reason they likely refereed to it as Desak was because of Desak's personality traits in the Destroyer and some of the physical characteristics.
Personality traits? No. It's quite evident that the Destroyer is nowhere to be seen in the video above.
It's more likely that it would have heavily benefited him to stop it and if he didn't that would come with negative results. I'm not sure I'd say he needed it but it was by far the best option .Odin rarely stops time in general. The fact that he did it here should mean something.
You realise that you are trying to argue that the Destroyer beats the very thing that created it and gave it all of its powers right?
EDIT Anyway, back on topic. Thanos takes a slight majority.
As you can see, not one person refers to Desak as the Destroyer.
That doesn't really matter nor does it disprove Desak merging with the Destroyer. It just shows how they wanted to call Desak merged with the Destroyer as Desak.
You realise that you are trying to argue that the Destroyer beats the very thing that created it and gave it all of its powers right?
Ignoring the fact how other skyfathers also granted the armor power I'm not necessarily arguing that.
As you can see, not one person refers to Desak as the Destroyer.
That doesn't really matter nor does it disprove Desak merging with the Destroyer. It just shows how they wanted to call Desak merged with the Destroyer as Desak.
You realise that you are trying to argue that the Destroyer beats the very thing that created it and gave it all of its powers right?
Ignoring the fact how other skyfathers also granted the armor power I'm not necessarily arguing that.
Hello friend, sorry to get involved. But there is no evidence to disprove that Desak is not wearing the destroyer armour either. Desak wearing the armour is much more probable (in my mind) as when the Destroyer has merged with other characters the armour does not show this extent of customisation.
And while the Destroyer armour and Odin have never fought (to my knowledge) i believe that it is common knowledge amongst us viners that should Odin & the Destroyer fight Odin would in-fact emerge victorious with minor injuries.
Also can we please get back on topic, it appears that the pair of you have slightly derailed the thread with a "debate" that has nothing to offer to the actual debate.
Thanos
Why?
Stomping Thor and fodder Asgardians <<< stomping characters who stomp Thor
That might be valid if that was Destroyer's only feat.
Destroyer gained the upperhand against characters that stomped King Thor
@naturallygifted: I wouldn't say Odin could easily beat the Destroyer. I think the Destroyer is actually capable of beating Odin but based on King Thor beating the armor on one or two occasions Odin likely could beat it as well. Keep in mind that Odin made the Destroyer to fight the 4th host. So in his mind he had a better chance of beating them while wearing the armor and using its power(rather than his own to a degree) then he did without it. That in itself supports the idea of it being far more durable than Odin is and perhaps nearly as powerful. The Destroyer may actually have more raw power than Odin does but less hax and versatility.
Thanos
I'm sure Thanos can easily outwit the Destroyer armor in a random encounter!!
What's "outwitting" going to do in this battle. And Thanos is bloodlusted here. He's not going to try to "outwit" his opponent.
Thanos's mind is his greatest asset!!
Bloodlusted or not you gotta think when u fight!!
Thanos ftw
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