team Darkseid vs Team Thor

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#1  Edited By Greendevil

Rules!

  • No BFR
  • No Prep
  • Win via KO/Death
  • location: lifeless planet made out of Vibranium

Team 1

  • Darkseid : Pre 52
  • SBP : With Sun Armor
  • Despero: Strongest version
  • Amazo: Powers= Superman, Cap Atom, Cap Marvel, Martian, Zatana, Aquaman, Wonderwoman: Weapons = Lasso, GL Ring
  • Larfleeze: classic Agent Orange
  • Helspont: Strongest version

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EDIT: Thor loses the Destroyer and gets the Odin force, just to make it more interesting

Team 2

  • Odin Force Thor
  • Thanos: Thanos imperative
  • Bor
  • Tyrant: De powered
  • Morg: well of life
  • Mangog
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#2  Edited By Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

Team 2

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#3  Edited By Simon_the_digger

Team 1

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#4  Edited By Greendevil

interresting

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#5  Edited By RingSlinger

@Nutupnutdown said:

@Ferdelance said:

Team 1

Agreed, Helspont is a big factor for team 1's victory

Also add in the fact that Larfleeze = entire lantern corps

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I'd like to say team one, but I honestly don't know how this'll turn out.

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Team 1 wins

You nerfed team 2 and powered up team 1.

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#8  Edited By Greendevil

@Nutupnutdown said:

@Ferdelance said:

Team 1

Agreed, Helspont is a big factor for team 1's victory

What are Helsponts feats except for fighting Majestic?

@AverageMan said:

Team 1 wins

You nerfed team 2 and powered up team 1.

Its pretty even imo. If i give Thor the OF and Destroyer team 2 wins. If i give Tyrant more power team 2 wins. Bor is a skyfather.

Team 1 might win, but its not a stomp! what do you suggest?

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#9  Edited By Abirzenith

Team 1 wins but will be a pretty intense battle 

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#10  Edited By thanobomb1124
@AverageMan

Team 1 wins

You nerfed team 2 and powered up team 1.

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@Greendevil said:

@Nutupnutdown said:

@Ferdelance said:

Team 1

Agreed, Helspont is a big factor for team 1's victory

What are Helsponts feats except for fighting Majestic?

@AverageMan said:

Team 1 wins

You nerfed team 2 and powered up team 1.

Its pretty even imo. If i give Thor the OF and Destroyer team 2 wins. If i give Tyrant more power team 2 wins. Bor is a skyfather.

Team 1 might win, but its not a stomp! what do you suggest?

Come on you powered up Amazo insanely high! Also you gave team 1 some powerful telepaths who should be able to take control of either mangog, morg and/or Tyrant (imo you shouldn't have depowered him). This battle is in team 1's favor. You are right it isn't a stomp but you made it more difficult for team 2 to win than team 1.

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#12  Edited By Greendevil

@AverageMan:

  1. ok il change OP. Thor loses the Destroyer and gets the Odin force
  2. other than Despero who is "high level telepath"?
  3. Also do you think Despero has stronger TP than Thanos and Tyrant and Bor a skyfather?
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#13  Edited By RoyHarperBLOW

Team 1.

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#14  Edited By MAZAHS117

O_O...whoa... I gotta think about this one

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#15  Edited By jeanroygrant

Team Thor.

Tyrant is too strong.

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@Greendevil said:

@AverageMan:

  1. ok il change OP. Thor loses the Destroyer and gets the Odin force
  2. other than Despero who is "high level telepath"?
  3. Also do you think Despero has stronger TP than Thanos and Tyrant and Bor a skyfather?

1) Agreed

2) Amazo cause you gave him Martian and Helspont.

3) He sure has more telepathic abilities (mind control, telekenesis, telepathy ect ) but Thanos, Thor and Bor are too powerful to be controlled. Despero should be able to control Tyrant. Thanos however is able to create psychic energy blasts which are more powerful than any psychic attacks Despero could summon.

Team 2 is stronger than team 1. But Team 1 has the Advantage within abilities and powers (matter manipulation, Psychic abilities, Speed and time manipulation).

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#17  Edited By xxxddd

@jeanroygrant said:

Team Thor.

Tyrant is too strong.

Couldn't Prime solo?

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#18  Edited By Greendevil

@AverageMan said:

@Greendevil said:

@AverageMan:

  1. ok il change OP. Thor loses the Destroyer and gets the Odin force
  2. other than Despero who is "high level telepath"?
  3. Also do you think Despero has stronger TP than Thanos and Tyrant and Bor a skyfather?

1) Agreed

2) Amazo cause you gave him Martian and Helspont.

3) He sure has more telepathic abilities (mind control, telekenesis, telepathy ect ) but Thanos, Thor and Bor are too powerful to be controlled. Despero should be able to control Tyrant. Thanos however is able to create psychic energy blasts which are more powerful than any psychic attacks Despero could summon.

Team 2 is stronger than team 1. But Team 1 has the Advantage within abilities and powers (matter manipulation, Psychic abilities, Speed and time manipulation).

Dude Tyrant is the strongest dude on Team 2 after Bor imo. Easily over Thanos and Mangog. He busted up amped Thanos and made him turn tail. I dont think Despero can even affect him with TP. He will have to do something else imo.

Depowered Tyrant slashed newly fed Galactus in the face and Morg had to scare him with the ultimate nullifier. Depowered Tyrant is the shit dude lol

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#19  Edited By Greendevil

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Team Thor.

Tyrant is too strong.

Couldn't Prime solo?

lol no dude. Nobody is soloing in any team. SBP vs Bor or OF-Thor would be epic though

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#20  Edited By XiiX

@Greendevil: Which Larfleeze is it?

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#21  Edited By Greendevil

@XiiX said:

@Greendevil: Which Larfleeze is it?

Agent Orange. The guy with power of the entire Orange force! I think this is his strongest version. He will have to be if he is fighting these guys.

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#22  Edited By Killemall

@Greendevil said:

@XiiX said:

@Greendevil: Which Larfleeze is it?

Agent Orange. The guy with power of the entire Orange force! I think this is his strongest version. He will have to be if he is fighting these guys.

I dont think there is more than one version of Agent Orange anyways. Its always been the same version.

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Team 2 in a good battle

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#24  Edited By XiiX

I'll say Team 1 in an unbelievably close bout.

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#25  Edited By TheVoiceOfReason

Team Darkseid

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@Greendevil said:

@AverageMan said:

@Greendevil said:

@AverageMan:

  1. ok il change OP. Thor loses the Destroyer and gets the Odin force
  2. other than Despero who is "high level telepath"?
  3. Also do you think Despero has stronger TP than Thanos and Tyrant and Bor a skyfather?

1) Agreed

2) Amazo cause you gave him Martian and Helspont.

3) He sure has more telepathic abilities (mind control, telekenesis, telepathy ect ) but Thanos, Thor and Bor are too powerful to be controlled. Despero should be able to control Tyrant. Thanos however is able to create psychic energy blasts which are more powerful than any psychic attacks Despero could summon.

Team 2 is stronger than team 1. But Team 1 has the Advantage within abilities and powers (matter manipulation, Psychic abilities, Speed and time manipulation).

Dude Tyrant is the strongest dude on Team 2 after Bor imo. Easily over Thanos and Mangog. He busted up amped Thanos and made him turn tail. I dont think Despero can even affect him with TP. He will have to do something else imo.

Depowered Tyrant slashed newly fed Galactus in the face and Morg had to scare him with the ultimate nullifier. Depowered Tyrant is the shit dude lol

I am aware of his feats and that he is one of the most powerful in team 2. But what I meant was that Thor, Thanos and Bor are more resilient to mind control than Tyrant. I am not sure whether he could resist.

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#27  Edited By PowerHerc

Thor team wins due to him having the Odin-Force.

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#28  Edited By Protin

I'm leaning towards team 2. If they can quickly take out their TP threats like Despero and Amazo, that should eliminate them worrying about their team mates possibly getting controlled, but they still have to deal with some heavy powerhouses. I think Thors team just has too many sky father level guys. I'll go with team 2

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#29  Edited By jeanroygrant

@PowerHercsaid:

Thor team wins due to him having the Odin-Force.

Yep, team Thor wins, i change my vote.

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#30  Edited By Greendevil

@AverageMan said:

Dude Tyrant is the strongest dude on Team 2 after Bor imo. Easily over Thanos and Mangog. He busted up amped Thanos and made him turn tail. I dont think Despero can even affect him with TP. He will have to do something else imo.

Depowered Tyrant slashed newly fed Galactus in the face and Morg had to scare him with the ultimate nullifier. Depowered Tyrant is the shit dude lol

I am aware of his feats and that he is one of the most powerful in team 2. But what I meant was that Thor, Thanos and Bor are more resilient to mind control than Tyrant. I am not sure whether he could resist.

ok i get what you say now, thx

Isnt depowered Tyrant = or at lest almost = depowered Galactus? I honestly think Tyrants has TP attacks covered.

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#31  Edited By jeanroygrant

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Team Thor.

Tyrant is too strong.

Couldn't Prime solo?

No

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#32  Edited By SpeedForceSpider

@TheVoiceOfReason said:

Team Darkseid

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#33  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

Maybe Team 2. Even a nerfed Tyrant is a monster.

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#34  Edited By whydama

I am leaning towards team 2. They have Bor and Tyrant

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#35  Edited By Greendevil

aaaand the tide tuuuuuurns

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#36  Edited By MAZAHS117

Tho arguements can be made for either team to win, I'm slightly leaning towards Team Thor

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#37  Edited By GrandSymbiote94
@Killemall said:

@Greendevil said:

@XiiX said:

@Greendevil: Which Larfleeze is it?

Agent Orange. The guy with power of the entire Orange force! I think this is his strongest version. He will have to be if he is fighting these guys.

I dont think there is more than one version of Agent Orange anyways. Its always been the same version.

Wasn't he depowered at one point?
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@Greendevil said:

@AverageMan said:

Dude Tyrant is the strongest dude on Team 2 after Bor imo. Easily over Thanos and Mangog. He busted up amped Thanos and made him turn tail. I dont think Despero can even affect him with TP. He will have to do something else imo.

Depowered Tyrant slashed newly fed Galactus in the face and Morg had to scare him with the ultimate nullifier. Depowered Tyrant is the shit dude lol

I am aware of his feats and that he is one of the most powerful in team 2. But what I meant was that Thor, Thanos and Bor are more resilient to mind control than Tyrant. I am not sure whether he could resist.

ok i get what you say now, thx

Isnt depowered Tyrant = or at lest almost = depowered Galactus? I honestly think Tyrants has TP attacks covered.

Only in his original form he is as powerful as Galactus but in his depowered he should be at Thanos level or maybe slightly lower or higher. As far as I know Tyrant is able to control and manipulate technology but that doesn't really count as TP feats.

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#39  Edited By Killemall

@GrandSymbiote94 said:

Wasn't he depowered at one point?

He was never officially de-powered. People tend to look at his showings during original Agent Orange saga and compare that to his showings on earth during War Of Light saga to show there is a difference between power level. I am more inclined to think, since DC has never retconned his power level before, its just a low showing for him, specially given the fact that in the ongoing Green Lantern Corps series he looks pretty powerful, has a guardian as a pet and has been apparently been fighting and doing well against Invictus the arc-angel, even apparently killed a whole bunch of other Arc-angels before (off panel), and Invictus for one soloed a whole bunch of popular lanterns from different emotional spectrum without breaking a sweat. That shows he's pretty powerful doesnt it?

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#40  Edited By GrandSymbiote94

@Killemall: Yes it does. But I heard he was depowered when Hector Hammond ate his power battery.

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#41  Edited By Killemall

@GrandSymbiote94 said:

@Killemall: Yes it does. But I heard he was depowered when Hector Hammond ate his power battery.

Oh ok, when the hell did that happen. I though i read through the entire Green Lantern solo issues and never remember reading that (but then again it was before i started debating in comicvine so dont have most of the scans saved).

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#42  Edited By GrandSymbiote94

@Killemall said:

Oh ok, when the hell did that happen.

Idk. I just heard around. I think it was when Krona was collecting the entities. It also says it in Hector Hammonds CV page.

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#43  Edited By Killemall

@GrandSymbiote94 said:

@Killemall said:

Oh ok, when the hell did that happen.

Idk. I just heard around. I think it was when Krona was collecting the entities. It also says it in Hector Hammonds CV page.

Krona collecting the entities, then its during War Of Light saga, where his feats looked meh!

Perhaps it has to do with Hector Hammond eating his power battery, lol everytime i read that it still sounds stupid unless there was something explained in the series.

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#44  Edited By Greendevil

@AverageMan said:

Dude, Tyrant is easily above Thanos. Thanos had a power orb the whole time and he wasn't exactly holding back.

The scans start from the bottom and up. I know you have seen them but i just put them up anyway :)

ok i get what you say now, thx

Isnt depowered Tyrant = or at lest almost = depowered Galactus? I honestly think Tyrants has TP attacks covered.

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Only in his original form he is as powerful as Galactus but in his depowered he should be at Thanos level or maybe slightly lower or higher. As far as I know Tyrant is able to control and manipulate technology but that doesn't really count as TP feats.

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