Fight takes place in Hoboken, New Jersey.
Winner is declared by KO, killing or otherwise incapacitating the opponent.
Super Skrull vs Apocalypse
Apocalypse. Super Skrull's projectile powers won't do anything, and as far as being physical is concerned, Apocalypse can alter his strength and density as well as his size.
Definately Super-Skrull. His training with Fantastic Four's powers has let him use them in ways even the Four haven't done. The Invisible Woman's powers are the real clincher, though. It has been shown that Sue's force fields cannot be penetrated by TK, and if you add in the fact that he has no issue with using said powers offensively, this is pretty much over.
" Definately Super-Skrull. His training with Fantastic Four's powers has let him use them in ways even the Four haven't done. The Invisible Woman's powers are the real clincher, though. It has been shown that Sue's force fields cannot be penetrated by TK, and if you add in the fact that he has no issue with using said powers offensively, this is pretty much over. "flawless,my friend
I do agree that without Invisible Woman's power does make matter's more intense for Apocalypse, but lets not forget his body is equipped with celestial tech.
it isnt that much of an advantage,Susan has broken a Celestial`s armour or something like that" I do agree that without Invisible Woman's power does make matter's more intense for Apocalypse, but lets not forget his body is equipped with celestial tech. "
" @Perfect Cell said:Correct. It can be argued that it was PIS, but it doesn't matter because Apocalypse has been hurt by a lot less than that. Namor sent him flying when he hit him with a coffee table, and Magneto has dropped him without breaking a sweat. Yes, I know that they are not the same power sets, but it doesn't matter. Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops.it isnt that much of an advantage,Susan has broken a Celestial`s armour or something like that "" I do agree that without Invisible Woman's power does make matter's more intense for Apocalypse, but lets not forget his body is equipped with celestial tech. "
" @Matezoide said:true,i just wanted to point it out" @Perfect Cell said:Correct. It can be argued that it was PIS, but it doesn't matter because Apocalypse has been hurt by a lot less than that. Namor sent him flying when he hit him with a coffee table, and Magneto has dropped him without breaking a sweat. Yes, I know that they are not the same power sets, but it doesn't matter. Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops. "it isnt that much of an advantage,Susan has broken a Celestial`s armour or something like that "" I do agree that without Invisible Woman's power does make matter's more intense for Apocalypse, but lets not forget his body is equipped with celestial tech. "
She has but under the circumstances that her power had permanently upgraded by Xemu. But even though, she shows great stress when pushing her power to those limits, and everything she does in defense can only be applied temporarily like how she could only temporarily contain Hulk." @Perfect Cell said:
it isnt that much of an advantage,Susan has broken a Celestial`s armour or something like that "" I do agree that without Invisible Woman's power does make matter's more intense for Apocalypse, but lets not forget his body is equipped with celestial tech. "
1) IW has shown much more power in recent years.
2) Hulk is a lot stronger than Apocalypse.
3) Super Skrull is more powerful than IW.
4) Super Skrull has the powers of all of the FF, not just her.
" @Matezoide said:True, but.... For how long can he keep doing that until he gets tired. Apacolypse can be mush on the floor, and able to regenerate. The only possible solution for a true win for Super Skrull is to completely remove Apocalypse from the battle field." @Perfect Cell said:Correct. It can be argued that it was PIS, but it doesn't matter because Apocalypse has been hurt by a lot less than that. Namor sent him flying when he hit him with a coffee table, and Magneto has dropped him without breaking a sweat. Yes, I know that they are not the same power sets, but it doesn't matter. Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops. "it isnt that much of an advantage,Susan has broken a Celestial`s armour or something like that "" I do agree that without Invisible Woman's power does make matter's more intense for Apocalypse, but lets not forget his body is equipped with celestial tech. "
" @Ferro Vida said:@Ferro Vida said:" @Matezoide said:True, but.... For how long can he keep doing that until he gets tired. Apacolypse can be mush on the floor, and able to regenerate. The only possible solution for a true win for Super Skrull is to completely remove Apocalypse from the battle field. "" @Perfect Cell said:Correct. It can be argued that it was PIS, but it doesn't matter because Apocalypse has been hurt by a lot less than that. Namor sent him flying when he hit him with a coffee table, and Magneto has dropped him without breaking a sweat. Yes, I know that they are not the same power sets, but it doesn't matter. Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops. "it isnt that much of an advantage,Susan has broken a Celestial`s armour or something like that "" I do agree that without Invisible Woman's power does make matter's more intense for Apocalypse, but lets not forget his body is equipped with celestial tech. "
Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops. "
I'll take Super Skrull for the reasons mentioned above and also, I don't see Apocalypse getting through SS's defenses: Sue's shields, Johnny's flight and flames, and Reed's elasticity.
" @Perfect Cell: 1) IW has shown much more power in recent years. 2) Hulk is a lot stronger than Apocalypse. 3) Super Skrull is more powerful than IW. 4) Super Skrull has the powers of all of the FF, not just her. "Super Skrull is more powerful than her, because he has all of their powers combined, and not just hers.
Check the Build a Battle thread. You're up :P
" @Ferro Vida said:It's also been stated that his abilities are straight up more powerful then theres. He can be hotter then Johnny, stronger then Ben, stretchier then Reed, and has more durable force fields then Sue." @Perfect Cell: 1) IW has shown much more power in recent years. 2) Hulk is a lot stronger than Apocalypse. 3) Super Skrull is more powerful than IW. 4) Super Skrull has the powers of all of the FF, not just her. "Super Skrull is more powerful than her, because he has all of their powers combined, and not just hers. "
@Ferro Vida said:How can a psyche "pop"?Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops. ""
@Perfect Cell said:
" @Ferro Vida said:Psyche? I was thinking his brain or heart.@Ferro Vida said:How can a psyche "pop"? "Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops. ""
Apocalypse is at rest weaker than Savage Hulk, but he can surpass that strength relatively easy. (although I don't think this applies to the other Hulks)
" Apocalypse is at rest weaker than Savage Hulk, but he can surpass that strength relatively easy. (although I don't think this applies to the other Hulks) "SS doesn't even need to let him get close enough to throw a punch.
" @Perfect Cell said:" @Ferro Vida said:It's also been stated that his abilities are straight up more powerful then theres. He can be hotter then Johnny, stronger then Ben, stretchier then Reed, and has more durable force fields then Sue. "" @Perfect Cell: 1) IW has shown much more power in recent years. 2) Hulk is a lot stronger than Apocalypse. 3) Super Skrull is more powerful than IW. 4) Super Skrull has the powers of all of the FF, not just her. "Super Skrull is more powerful than her, because he has all of their powers combined, and not just hers. "
It's also been stated that his powers are not as powerful as those of the FF individually. Different writers use these statements at different times.
" @DaddyCool: He has been fully versed in all the capabilities of the FF's powers.LOL, I don't think he has those anymore.
@Perfect Cell said:" @Ferro Vida said:Psyche? I was thinking his brain or heart. "@Ferro Vida said:How can a psyche "pop"? "Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops. ""
@Perfect Cell said:
" @Ferro Vida said:He still needs a head to function, though." @DaddyCool: He has been fully versed in all the capabilities of the FF's powers.LOL, I don't think he has those anymore. "
@Perfect Cell said:" @Ferro Vida said:Psyche? I was thinking his brain or heart. "@Ferro Vida said:How can a psyche "pop"? "Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops. ""
Besides, in AoA Magneto ripped him in half, and 616 Eric has affected him in a similar way so I don't see why it is so hard to imagine SS doing something similar.
" @Ultimate Magneto: Possibly "Of course prep depends on a myriad of things, such as what is done with said prep, how much time is used, if the opponent knows they are even going to be fighting until the battle starts and much more. Anyone got any cool feats showcasing Apocalypse, particularly when he had time to prepare?
" @Th3 FlAsH 123: If you don't mind. Just put Build and Battle and the names of the people in the debate.But Magneto didn't just rip him in half, he de-moleculized him and over powered Apocalypse will to handle his own molecules. I don't think Apocalypse has a real body any, since its been destroyed back in the ancient time periods, and which is why he host different bodies.
@Perfect Cell said:" @Ferro Vida said:He still needs a head to function, though. Besides, in AoA Magneto ripped him in half, and 616 Eric has affected him in a similar way so I don't see why it is so hard to imagine SS doing something similar. "" @DaddyCool: He has been fully versed in all the capabilities of the FF's powers.LOL, I don't think he has those anymore. "
@Perfect Cell said:" @Ferro Vida said:Psyche? I was thinking his brain or heart. "@Ferro Vida said:How can a psyche "pop"? "Super Skrull can make a bubble in Apoclypse's body and expand it until something important pops. ""
" Well if he had prep do you guys think Apoc could take the win? "Where was Super Skrull during the Apocalypse War? He must of died during that era. Alot of people died.
" @Perfect Cell: Your post completely contradicts most of my knowledge of Apocalypse, so I need so proof. "Apocalypse has this whole side story series of himself, when he used to be a man. Like 10,000 years ago or something like that. He was totally destroyed, and came back as the ugly looking Apocalypse we all know of now.
" @Ferro Vida said:i recall last time he prepared he kidnapped 12 mutants and try to become God ended up getting a portion of godhood but lost it at the end and merged with cyke... :( is that good or part?" @Ultimate Magneto: Possibly "Of course prep depends on a myriad of things, such as what is done with said prep, how much time is used, if the opponent knows they are even going to be fighting until the battle starts and much more. Anyone got any cool feats showcasing Apocalypse, particularly when he had time to prepare? "
" @Ultimate Magneto said:You didn't answer my question. Super Skrull wasn't in it because the Fantastic Four never recieved their powers and the Skrull never came to Earth. You have no proof that Kl'rt wasn't born." Well if he had prep do you guys think Apoc could take the win? "Where was Super Skrull during the Apocalypse War? He must of died during that era. Alot of people died. "
" @Ferro Vida said:That isn't proof. Do you have scans?" @Perfect Cell: Your post completely contradicts most of my knowledge of Apocalypse, so I need so proof. "Apocalypse has this whole side story series of himself, when he used to be a man. Like 10,000 years ago or something like that. He was totally destroyed, and came back as the ugly looking Apocalypse we all know of now. "
" @Ultimate Magneto said:I remember that. He used Cyclops for something (gathering host for his body) and tried to turn him against Jean. But somewhere along the way, He was going to possess one of them until Jean told Scott about the delay of the merge. I think... And i could be wrong, but Scott used his optic blast at the moment of possession transfer and Apocalypse pyche was merged into him or something like that." @Ferro Vida said:i recall last time he prepared he kidnapped 12 mutants and try to become God ended up getting a portion of godhood but lost it at the end and merged with cyke... :( is that good or part? "" @Ultimate Magneto: Possibly "ccOf course prep depends on a myriad of things, such as what is done with said prep, how much time is used, if the opponent knows they are even going to be fighting until the battle starts and much more. Anyone got any cool feats showcasing Apocalypse, particularly when he had time to prepare? "
" @Perfect Cell said:I would need to find scans. Can someone help me out with the name of the series?" @Ferro Vida said:That isn't proof. Do you have scans? "" @Perfect Cell: Your post completely contradicts most of my knowledge of Apocalypse, so I need so proof. "Apocalypse has this whole side story series of himself, when he used to be a man. Like 10,000 years ago or something like that. He was totally destroyed, and came back as the ugly looking Apocalypse we all know of now. "
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