Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann vs DC earth

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Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann

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DC earth

Setting:

The Anti-Spiral decides to invade the DC universe and tricks the team Dai Gurren to fight the people of Earth.

Rules:

All heroes and villains that live in earth will work together to stop the mecha.

Post Flashpoint Earth.

No outside help.

Morals on for everyone.

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With prep?

cause with prep it would be much easier.

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Most heroes and villains will be completely irrelevant in this fight. But TTGL has the power to 'kick logic to the curb to make the impossible possible'. It's their whole theme. This ability to paramount to toonforce, and makes it incredibly hard to establish any real limit to their power.

By feats, I believe TTGL wins.

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@jucaslucas:

Doesn't matter if it's Super Galaxy GL or if it's STTGL, or even standard TTGL. Even Arc-Gurren Lagann had the ability to rip a hole through the fabric of space, Super Galaxy GL had the ability to resist probability control on a multiversal level and could altern both space and time. It's ridiculously, stupidly powerful, and has no clear limits. The entire idea of Gurren Lagann is that they don't obey logic, and the fight with the Anti-Spiral is the pinnacle of this. The anti-spiral has near-absolute probability control, and it shouldn't have been possible for them to win. But they won anyway. Because they don't care for your puny logic.

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@matthijs_noyce: Well, comparing Super Galaxy to TTGL is like comparing an ant to Godzilla.

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@jucaslucas:

Not really, because their power level is completely undetermined and illogical. Super Galaxy GL is still a reality-warping death machine with the ability to completely ignore logic and physics. It can win a fight it shouldn't be able to win, in true toonforce style. It's later transformations just made it bigger and cooler-looking.

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#9  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

Wow... Kinda glad I gave up on Gurren Lagann.

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@matthijs_noyce: Super Galaxy was throwing planets at enemies.

TTGL was throwing galaxies at enemies.

The power difference is very clear.

And it's shown that this mechas have limits. Arc wasn't strong enough to stop the moon from falling on earth.

If the moon wasn't a mecha, the world would have been destroyed.

And saying that "they ignore logic, so they win" is almost as bad as OPM fans saying Saitama can one shot anyone, because he's a joke character.

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@matthijs_noyce: Super Galaxy was throwing planets at enemies.

TTGL was throwing galaxies at enemies.

The power difference is very clear.

And it's shown that this mechas have limits. Arc wasn't strong enough to stop the moon from falling on earth.

If the moon wasn't a mecha, the world would have been destroyed.

And saying that "they ignore logic, so they win" is almost as bad as OPM fans saying Saitama can one shot anyone, because he's a joke character.

he's not a joke character

he one punch kills sttgl

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Wow... Kinda glad I gave up on Gurren Lagann.

Why?

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@ssj_god: But their Drill can pierce the Heavens.

Heavens> Saitama.

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@ssj_god: But their Drill can pierce the Heavens.

Heavens> Saitama.

says who?.. saitama one punches heavens

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@ssj_god: He can't even touch the Heavens, he doesn't fly.

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#18 the_stegman  Moderator

@jucaslucas: I thought it was ridiculous before the timeskip. Now they are galaxy busters or whatever??

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@ssj_god: He can't even touch the Heavens, he doesn't fly.

he one punches the heavens from ground

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@ssj_god: He can't, it's too high.

@jucaslucas: I thought it was ridiculous before the timeskip. Now they are galaxy busters or whatever??

Of course not, that would be silly.

They are universe busters.

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#23  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
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@ssj_god: Both are too middle for him.

I don't even what I'm talking about anymore.

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#30  Edited By ssj_god

@jucaslucas said:

@ssj_god: Both are too middle for him.

I don't even what I'm talking about anymore.

he one punches the too middle too

me neither

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The question is if spectre is on DC earth? If not they can take it i think the heavy hitters can keep it occupied for like 1 minutes while Zolomon,Thawne,Wally and Barry IMP the chest at MFTL speeds till it breaks which it would after a minute or so then they blitz the team inside lagann. Also team DC could tp the mecha but honestly idk.

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Lucifer is on Earth with Gabriel if i rememmber correctly, does he count as hero/villain?

DC also has Phantom Stranger, who stalemated Spectre in New 52, can stop time and do other crazy stuff.

@chazz85 said:

The question is if spectre is on DC earth? If not they can take it i think the heavy hitters can keep it occupied for like 1 minutes while Zolomon,Thawne,Wally and Barry IMP the chest at MFTL speeds till it breaks which it would after a minute or so then they blitz the team inside lagann. Also team DC could tp the mecha but honestly idk.

Spectre is on DC Earth, the last time i saw him in comics, he was there, but i don't think he has feats to stop that mecha.

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John Constantine could summon the Spectre and there`s also Dr. Fate so I think DC Earth wins.

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@neongamewave:

The problem is that New 52 Spectre doesn't have feat to contend with this mecha, and New 52 Dr. Fate(Earth Prime one) is still unexperienced.

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@neongamewave: Isn't Fate in Earth 2 only?

He`s on Earth 1 if I`m not mistaken.

@neongamewave:

The problem is that New 52 Spectre doesn't have feat to contend with this mecha, and New 52 Dr. Fate(Earth Prime one) is still unexperienced.

He should be as powerful as his Pre 52 counterpart (if he`s unbound) and with John Constantine they could tap into a big deal of magic.

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#38  Edited By MaZeRaIII

@neongamewave:

So far there is not enough proof to say that he is as powerful as his Pre 52 counterpart. Many characters' power level has changed in Post-Flashpoint, just look at New 52 Anti-Monitor, he is now downgraded to Darkseid's lvl, and there are other examples of power level changes.

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#39  Edited By WF_Mxyzptlk

Lucifer lives in miami.

He solos.

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@neongamewave:

So far there is not enough proof to say that he is as powerful as his Pre 52 counterpart. Many characters' power level has changed in Post-Flashpoint, just look at New 52 Anti-Monitor, he is now downgraded to Darkseid's lvl, and there are other examples of power level changes.

Either way, even if you were right, I don`t see how SGGL could beat the Spectre especially since he like his Pre-52 self is linked to the Presence and while that is true it doesn`t make the Spectre of all those charactrers any weaker also that was more so because of the plot, and Darkseid got an amp during that storyline so everything had to be appropriated in the appropriate way.

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@matthijs_noyce said:

Most heroes and villains will be completely irrelevant in this fight. But TTGL has the power to 'kick logic to the curb to make the impossible possible'. It's their whole theme. This ability to paramount to toonforce, and makes it incredibly hard to establish any real limit to their power.

Yea, probably this. I say that he could win if we disclude people like Lucifer and Spectre

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@mrmxyzptlk: but....but....thats not fair.....STTGL.....fine, Lucifer solos.

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DC Earth has universal and multiversal entities and can't fall to any one person in general.

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@darkraiden:

Lol, the only being on the planet that stands a chance is Lucifer. Everything else gets pretty badly stomped.

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Sggl wins. Spiral energy trumps even cosmic energy.

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Counting Lucifer in? He solos with ease.

Without him? Huh...

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#48  Edited By w12yeah

Lucifer lives in miami.

He solos.

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well that's obvius why not add spectre hal or just spectre or god of death flash with god of strenght sup and god of knowledge batman and god of apokalips lex and god of gods shazam why dont you and paralax hal white lantern kyle

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@darkraiden:

Lol, the only being on the planet that stands a chance is Lucifer. Everything else gets pretty badly stomped.

Lucifer, Spectre, Zatanna, Mxy if he's there, Bat-Mite if he's there, random magic users who will/can summon Spectre, etc.

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@darkraiden:

Lucifer could take him. Not arguing that.

Spectre is way too inconsistent to win this one.

From what I recall, Zatanna was fairly low-tier. But the fact that you suggested her here suggests otherwise, and I really don't know much of her. Would you care to explain why you think she could take SGGL?

Neither Mxy nor Bat-Mite are residents of DC Earth, although they do on occasion hang out.

Random magic user in question probably gets stomped. Refer to earlier statement for Spectre.