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#1 Posted by the_last_kryptonian (1571 posts) - - Show Bio

I was wondering who would win in a fight between the two. Cell had claimed that Trunks was more powerful than him in that form. Thing is, his speed had decreased so much he couldn't land a single blow on him. So, if trunks had not suffered a speed loss, who would win in a battle between him and ssj kid gohan?

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#2 Edited by NighThunder (7726 posts) - - Show Bio

Trunks

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#3 Posted by XImpossibruX (5747 posts) - - Show Bio

No speed loss? Trunks definitely.

USSJ is practically SSJ2 with speed loss, and less durability.

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#5 Posted by Jmarshmallow (11925 posts) - - Show Bio

Without a doubt in a my mind I can say that USSJ Trunks without speed loss stomps SSJ Gohan.

That's almost like putting him against SSJ2 Trunks.

Jmarshmallow

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#6 Posted by Ostyo (14098 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: Yeah, it's kinda hard to stand with someone on a higher level, just ask SSJ2 Vegeta and his attempts to surpass SSJ3 Goku.

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#7 Posted by Jmarshmallow (11925 posts) - - Show Bio

@ostyo: Lol unfortunately for Vegeta it doesn't matter what Super Saiyan form he attains, Goku will always be one step ahead of him.

It's kinda sad really. Chasing a dream that will never come into fruition.

Jmarshmallow

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#8 Posted by XImpossibruX (5747 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: He surpassed Goku for like 20 seconds in Battle of Gods. Thats gotta count for something.

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#9 Edited by savagekelley (36 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd have to go with Gohan. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, Trunks and Vegeta (with a second day/year in the RoSaT) were both shocked with how much power Goku showed when he fought Cell, the same power that Gohan wasn't terribly impressed with, thinking his dad was still holding something back because he (Goku) was weaker than he (Gohan) was.

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#10 Posted by Jmarshmallow (11925 posts) - - Show Bio

@ximpossibrux: Really? I haven't seen the movie yet, so I wouldn't know.

If so, I'm so proud of him.

That's like the first time ever lol. Wish it would've last for more than like 20 seconds.

Jmarshmallow

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#11 Posted by XImpossibruX (5747 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd have to go with Gohan. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, Trunks and Vegeta (with a second day/year in the RoSaT) were both shocked with how much power Goku showed when he fought Cell, the same power that Gohan wasn't terribly impressed with, thinking his dad was still holding something back because he (Goku) was weaker than he (Gohan) was.

Except Cell even admitted in his Perfect Form that Trunks surpassed him by a large margin, however Trunks couldn't hit him.

And SSJ Gohan only landed 1 hit on Perfect Cell, while he got pummeled the whole time.

Since Trunks has speed USSJ > Perfect Cell > SSJ Gohan

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#12 Posted by Ostyo (14098 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: Yeah, that stuff was hard to watch...someone people don't know when to quit.

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#13 Posted by savagekelley (36 posts) - - Show Bio

@savagekelley said:

I'd have to go with Gohan. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, Trunks and Vegeta (with a second day/year in the RoSaT) were both shocked with how much power Goku showed when he fought Cell, the same power that Gohan wasn't terribly impressed with, thinking his dad was still holding something back because he (Goku) was weaker than he (Gohan) was.

Except Cell even admitted in his Perfect Form that Trunks surpassed him by a large margin, however Trunks couldn't hit him.

And SSJ Gohan only landed 1 hit on Perfect Cell, while he got pummeled the whole time.

Since Trunks has speed USSJ > Perfect Cell > SSJ Gohan

Again, I could be misremembering this, but was his statement about being surpassed taking into consideration his suppressed state or his true, hidden power? I read it as the power Cell is showing then and there, otherwise Trunks wouldn't have been so impressed by Goku at full power. So, it would go something like: Full power Cell > SS Gohan > SS Goku > bulked up Cell > USS Trunks > Suppressed Cell.

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#14 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (31130 posts) - - Show Bio

No speed loss? Trunks definitely.

USSJ is practically SSJ2 with speed loss, and less durability.

This.

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#15 Posted by Bossmonster (2968 posts) - - Show Bio

@ostyo: Lol unfortunately for Vegeta it doesn't matter what Super Saiyan form he attains, Goku will always be one step ahead of him.

It's kinda sad really. Chasing a dream that will never come into fruition.

Jmarshmallow

Huh? Vegeta beat the hell out of Goku in every fight they had. If the playing field were even, Vegeta would defeat goku. The issue lies in the potential of the two, not the skill level.

Goku just seem to grow much better than Vegeta every step of the way. While Vegeta needed so much help an special circumstances to achieve the same effect I.E SSJ2 and SSJ4. This is the reason Vegeta never even went SSJ3.

However, Vegeta has more power it seems than Goku as evident in Kid Buu not being able to put him down even after he lost the energy to stay a SSJ form.

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#16 Edited by Bossmonster (2968 posts) - - Show Bio

@ximpossibrux said:

@savagekelley said:

I'd have to go with Gohan. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, Trunks and Vegeta (with a second day/year in the RoSaT) were both shocked with how much power Goku showed when he fought Cell, the same power that Gohan wasn't terribly impressed with, thinking his dad was still holding something back because he (Goku) was weaker than he (Gohan) was.

Except Cell even admitted in his Perfect Form that Trunks surpassed him by a large margin, however Trunks couldn't hit him.

And SSJ Gohan only landed 1 hit on Perfect Cell, while he got pummeled the whole time.

Since Trunks has speed USSJ > Perfect Cell > SSJ Gohan

Again, I could be misremembering this, but was his statement about being surpassed taking into consideration his suppressed state or his true, hidden power? I read it as the power Cell is showing then and there, otherwise Trunks wouldn't have been so impressed by Goku at full power. So, it would go something like: Full power Cell > SS Gohan > SS Goku > bulked up Cell > USS Trunks > Suppressed Cell.

I brought this up recently.

From what I read, Cell was admitting the Trucks was much more powerful than him. It's why cell couldn't hurt him at all with his attacks. However, Trucks couldn't touch Cell, so he knew it was a losing battle, over time Trucks would tire and be killed by Cell.

Trucks was the most powerful at the time, just the most useless.

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#17 Edited by SSJLozza (1672 posts) - - Show Bio

USSJ is almost as powerful as SSJ2, the speed loss is its only major drawback, hence Trunks stomps.

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#18 Edited by xlab3000 (3928 posts) - - Show Bio

@savagekelley said:

I'd have to go with Gohan. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, Trunks and Vegeta (with a second day/year in the RoSaT) were both shocked with how much power Goku showed when he fought Cell, the same power that Gohan wasn't terribly impressed with, thinking his dad was still holding something back because he (Goku) was weaker than he (Gohan) was.

this

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#19 Posted by Xeno_Seeker (423 posts) - - Show Bio

man this part of dbz is the reason why trunks is my favorite character. he was slapping form 2 cell around like a b!tch! but freaking vegeta man...

Trunks most definitely.

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#20 Posted by kyrees (12288 posts) - - Show Bio

USSJ is practically SSJ2 with speed loss, and less durability.

USSJ doesn't have a durability problem

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#21 Edited by Mike_Fowler (3921 posts) - - Show Bio

Gohan actually

Maybe even a stomp considering

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#22 Posted by reaverlation (22443 posts) - - Show Bio

Gohan wrecks

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#23 Posted by Skarsh (39 posts) - - Show Bio

Easily Trunks.. SSJ gohan would lose to USSJ trunks.. but if it was the ascended SSJ gohan taht defeated perfect cell 1 handed then it will be a close fight with trunks winning. but trunks will smash this version of gohan easily.. especially with speed. #MurderStomp

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#24 Posted by Marshall_Long (4944 posts) - - Show Bio

Trunks

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#25 Posted by APEX_pretador (10547 posts) - - Show Bio

gohan tries to lose to make trunks feel good, and still ends up winning.

Stomp

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#26 Posted by cpt_nice (8896 posts) - - Show Bio

Gohan with ease

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#27 Edited by TheMan44 (3556 posts) - - Show Bio

Trunks ssj kid gohan was much weaker than cell while Trunks surpassed Cells strength in that form.

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#28 Posted by cpt_nice (8896 posts) - - Show Bio

@theman44 said:

Trunks ssj kid gohan was much weaker than cell while Trunks surpassed Cells strength in that form.

Cell used a lot more power vs Gohan than Trunks.

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#29 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (15975 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty sure this question was answered when Goku powered up against Cell....

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#30 Posted by Stefano (1277 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty sure this question was answered when Goku powered up against Cell....

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I'd have to go with Gohan. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, Trunks and Vegeta (with a second day/year in the RoSaT) were both shocked with how much power Goku showed when he fought Cell, the same power that Gohan wasn't terribly impressed with, thinking his dad was still holding something back because he (Goku) was weaker than he (Gohan) was.

This!

Besides the speed loss isn’t the only set back of the USSJ transformation, it also burns through the user’s power much quicker. From the first time Gohan became an SSJ 1 he already mastered the transformation, becoming a full power super saiyan, being able to use its power much more efficiently and without consuming power to maintain his transformation.