Peter parker (With Iron Spidey Suit and "Other" Powers)
and Ben Reilly (Scarlet Spider)
VS
Team 2
Venom (Eddie Brock)
and
Carnage
Battlefield : New York Distance : 3 Buildings apart State of mind : Team 1, Blood Luster due to the Symbiotes killing Aunt May and MJ, Team 2, Like they've always been Restrictions : Venom and Carnage's ability to negate Spidey Sense is OFF
if peter has his other powers plus the iron suit, it should be nice match eddie but a prelonged curb stomp for carnage. if this is current pete, then it's a stomp for the Symbiotes
"if peter has his other powers plus the iron suit, it should be nice match eddie but a prelonged curb stomp for carnage. if this is current pete, then it's a stomp for the Symbiotes "
" if peter has his other powers plus the iron suit, it should be nice match eddie but a prelonged curb stomp for carnage. if this is current pete, then it's a stomp for the Symbiotes "
Spider-Man with the other and bloodlusted should slaughter Eddie and dont come with ''he cant hurt Eddie''....he injured the other Venoms (Angelo Fortunato and Mac Gargan) who are stronger than Eddie Brock
IIRC, wasn't there a time Ben managed to physically rip the Venom symbiote off of Brock? It's been a long while since i've read that series. Since the symbiotes are bloodlusted, though, i'd be inclined to go with them. As stated, they're more versatile. That's an awesome pic of Iron Spidey, btw.
" if peter has his other powers plus the iron suit, it should be nice match eddie but a prelonged curb stomp for carnage. if this is current pete, then it's a stomp for the Symbiotes "
Spider-Man with the other and bloodlusted should slaughter Eddieand dont come with ''he cant hurt Eddie''....he injured the other Venoms (Angelo Fortunato and Mac Gargan) who are stronger than Eddie Brock "
Sorry but Team 1 does'nt have blood lust. Only team 2.
" if peter has his other powers plus the iron suit, it should be nice match eddie but a prelonged curb stomp for carnage. if this is current pete, then it's a stomp for the Symbiotes "
Spider-Man with the other and bloodlusted should slaughter Eddieand dont come with ''he cant hurt Eddie''....he injured the other Venoms (Angelo Fortunato and Mac Gargan) who are stronger than Eddie Brock "
Both Gargan and Forunato were borderline retarded with the symbiote. Eddie would have a though time against that version of Spidey but he'd still come out on top. Due to his other abilities(which Gargan and Fortunato didn't use)
@Matezoide: Actually I was gonna point out that eddie's strength was 11 to 15 tons, but wouldn't say it would be a stomp due to eddie knowing how to use powers in greater effect than Angele and Mac i.e. tendrills down the throat. Anyway how do you think pete gonna cope with carnage?
" if peter has his other powers plus the iron suit, it should be nice match eddie but a prelonged curb stomp for carnage. if this is current pete, then it's a stomp for the Symbiotes "
Spider-Man with the other and bloodlusted should slaughter Eddieand dont come with ''he cant hurt Eddie''....he injured the other Venoms (Angelo Fortunato and Mac Gargan) who are stronger than Eddie Brock "
Both Gargan and Forunato were borderline retarded with the symbiote. Eddie would have a though time against that version of Spidey but he'd still come out on top. Due to his other abilities(which Gargan and Fortunato didn't use) "
they were still stronger and more durable,yet Spider-Man was able to injure then,he should be able to take down Brock addtionaly,Spider-Man went toe-to-toe with him in ''Spider-Man: Family #2'' and the other Venoms used other powers,Angelo turned invisible and Gargan used trendills and Brock can lift just 11 tons anyway....it is on his handbook entry,Morpheus got the scan
" @Matezoide: Actually I was gonna point out that eddie's strength was 11 to 15 tons, but wouldn't say it would be a stomp due to eddie knowing how to use powers in greater effect than Angele and Mac i.e. tendrills down the throat. Anyway how do you think pete gonna cope with carnage? "
meh,i dunno,Spider-Man with the Other became far more powerfull and he got the Iron-Spider costume as for Carnage....no ideia,who has been able to injure him in the past?
@Matezoide: Eddie is more prone to sneaking(what Fortunato tried to pull) but is also the most experienced of any sybiote when it comes to combat. Strength is not an issue when Eddie can just use some of the methods of attack that Spidey can't counter(such as slicing open his mask and then stuffing symbiote goo in his mouth until he suffocates)
" @Matezoide: Eddie is more prone to sneaking(what Fortunato tried to pull) but is also the most experienced of any sybiote when it comes to combat. Strength is not an issue when Eddie can just use some of the methods of attack that Spidey can't counter(such as slicing open his mask and then stuffing symbiote goo in his mouth until he suffocates) "
" @Matezoide: Eddie is more prone to sneaking(what Fortunato tried to pull) but is also the most experienced of any sybiote when it comes to combat. Strength is not an issue when Eddie can just use some of the methods of attack that Spidey can't counter(such as slicing open his mask and then stuffing symbiote goo in his mouth until he suffocates) "
that is,if he can manage to hit him like that "
He can by sneaking up behind Spidey and then pulling off that maneuver.
and the other Venoms used other powers,Angelo turned invisible and Gargan used trendills
Brock could do the same to be honest. ( also i think you mean camouflage instead of invisible ) =] "
right on both statements
@Decoy Elite said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @Decoy Elite said:
" @Matezoide: Eddie is more prone to sneaking(what Fortunato tried to pull) but is also the most experienced of any sybiote when it comes to combat. Strength is not an issue when Eddie can just use some of the methods of attack that Spidey can't counter(such as slicing open his mask and then stuffing symbiote goo in his mouth until he suffocates) "
that is,if he can manage to hit him like that "
He can by sneaking up behind Spidey and then pulling off that maneuver. "
he cant just sneak on Spider-Man by using camouflage if Spidey was seeing him during the whole fight though :P
Team 1... the Symbiotes could be physically more powerful, but they are not that smart... and both Peter and Ben have defeated Venom in a H2H fight... And together could easily defeat Carnage...
Remember all my scans of Venom resisting fire a few weeks back?
But honestly, Ben's 10 TON class doesn't help here. He could easily get double teamed and killed if Venom and Carnage rushed him.
The fight would turn into Spider-man vs both of the symbiotes.
Spider-man with his other powers and the Iron Spider suit (which also increases his strength from what I can remember... not sure...) could defeat Venom and Carnage 1 on 1 though.
" @SlimJ87D: PIS, PIS everywhere... Back in my days a weakness meant something...
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The symbiote itself looks like it's resisting the fire pretty well in those scans. but yeah, I have other scans of Venom bragging about his better resistance to fire too. I think he and the symbiote developed it together throughout their adventures. Venom (Eddie) also went from 11tons to 25tons and I wouldn't be surprised if he surpassed carnage since he has punched and one shotted enemies on Carnage's level like that female carnage look alike. But those were all terribly written arcs that Venom has been apart of for many years.
Thanks for clearing up the Iron Spider suit, for some reason I though it made him stronger but it just made him a but more durable.
I dont think anyone has mentioned the most important thing here, team work. Ben and Pete would work together pretty well but carnage and venom work as well together as water and oil. Not to mention the suit and spider sense. I think team work and tech will allow pete and ben to pull this in for a win.
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