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#1  Edited By The Mighty Thor

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#2  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Spider-Carnage.

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#3  Edited By General Sylux

Spider Carnage

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#4  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Finally something we can agree on

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#5  Edited By General Sylux

The carnage symbiote always was stronger than the venom symbiote.

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#6  Edited By Eternal Chaos

It most certainly isn't now. Venom always kicked Carnage's ass.

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#7  Edited By General Sylux

Only because Brock was smarter than cletus now the intelligence is Equal so I bet Spider-Carnage has the Upper hand.

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#8  Edited By Eternal Chaos

No dude. Currently, the Venom Symbiote, is super human class 60, Carnage is, or was 50. So Venom's suit is stronger than Carnage's

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#9  Edited By General Sylux

Isn't that because the scorpion is it's current host and scorpion has class 20 strength already.

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#10  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Yeah but after a while the suit absorbes abilities of the current users. Just like when it absorbed Spidey's powers and strength when he got it in Secret Wars. When the suit is off Gargan, and it goes back to Brock, he's gonna be a bigger powerhouse. and have more everything.

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#11  Edited By ArchVenom

Yes honestly Spider-Venom, Carnage was always kind of a pushover. It all started with Venom and will end with him.

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#12  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Even though Spider-Carnage would win, the Current Venom symbiote would win.

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#13  Edited By ArchVenom

Well you are right Spider-Carnage would win but if we would have been talking Traditional Venom he would ultimately overcome him.

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#14  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Exactly

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#15  Edited By ArchVenom

Personally I was apalled at the job Spider-man 3 did with Venom ....

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#16  Edited By Eternal Chaos

You too? I was absolutly disgusted. The went completely out of character with him. He asked for help, he was much smaller in comparison to his comic book size, he had no tongue and had a gray spider not the white one, and than he was so much weaker. His voice was too... Topher for my liking. I hope that perhaps in part 4 Sam Raimi won't screw it up and that maybe he'll revive Venom and do my favorite character justice

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#17  Edited By ArchVenom

Yeah I agree hopefully bring him back for a team up on Carnage. I also was annoyed with all of it they made him too small and he did not have the tongue and drool all over ya know? That is key venom also he spoke as one person. You know he said "I" instead of " We" which made no sense. To me it was horrible to give that disgraceful charector the name of Venom

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#18  Edited By The Mighty Thor

okay so bascially the new venom with spiderman would win and the old venom will lose and plus i meant new venom with spiderman

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#19  Edited By The Mighty Thor

o and you guys do know that scarlet spider is spider carnage

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#20  Edited By Eternal Chaos

That I know. I have the book. I thought the movie was pretty good, no doubt, but it needed work. They didn't do Venom justice, that's all that bothered me. He wasn't done correctly.

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#21  Edited By The Mighty Thor

he was more evil and there was no tounge

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#22  Edited By Eternal Chaos

He was less evil. He was a big baby. He was no better than Carnage. I disliked him. point blank.

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#23  Edited By Bane_delete

SPIDER-CANAGE

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#24  Edited By ArchVenom

Yeah people say he was more villainous but to me he was just a wuss. I love the real venom from the comics and that silly animated show better.

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#25  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Definitly. He was so cool, he didn't have his comedy, his anger, his rage. He wasn't even really Venom. I hope they do him justice in the next movie

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#26  Edited By acewasp23

Spider-Carnage would have it.

Spider-man 3 It was good. I'm a fan of sam rami's work (like evil-dead) the prob was he didnt want to have venom in his movies. He said that he has no character (which is wrong he has a lot of character) he wanted to do the movie with the sandman.

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#27  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Sam Raimi is a loser just for saying that. He deprived Sandman of his character. He turned Sandman into a charity case

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#28  Edited By acewasp23

LOL yeah i know.

he was trying to give every one what they wanted.

New goblin(which sucked), venom, and he wanted to do sandman.

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#29  Edited By Eternal Chaos

He should've just left it at Sandman than. To hell with new goblin (btw, he didn't even do the outfits correctly, like wtf) and Venom could've came later I would've waited...

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#30  Edited By The Mighty Thor

how can you guys say spider carnage

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#31  Edited By Boken

venom.

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#32  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Venom would win, but spidey with the black suit loses to reilly with the red suit

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#33  Edited By The Mighty Thor

spidy with the new venom would be so much stronger like you said on the last page. i know spider-carnage would win if it was spiderman with the old venom

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#34  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Well that goes without saying. Lol. Old Black loses to old red. New black, kill old red.

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#35  Edited By Boken

Eternal Chaos says:

"Venom would win, but spidey with the black suit loses to reilly with the red suit"

i agree

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#36  Edited By The Mighty Thor

i know but i meant new black suit and some of you guys says spider-canger, why?

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#37  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Well we know now, so we can all agree that Spider Carnage is weaker than the current black suit.

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#38  Edited By The Mighty Thor

yea

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#39  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Pretty much.

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#40  Edited By crazy spidey

carnage

u cant help it hes just amazing, though venom kicks some major ass

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#41  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Dude, Venom's better. Venom kills Carnage. That's it.

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I love the way spiderman3 did venom it was just a lot cooler to me in my oponion

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#43  Edited By The Mighty Thor

really why

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#44  Edited By Eternal Chaos

I thought they did a terrible job with Venom in Spider-Man 3

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#45  Edited By The Mighty Thor

thank you i mean it was okay but comic is better

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#46  Edited By The_Martian

My biggest problem which Venom in Spidey 3 was how much he was actually in the movie and how everytime they did a close up he would remove the mask. Besides that I thought they did a decent job showing him on the big screen. Yeah Eddie didn't look like the tradition Eddie but he played the part well.

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#47  Edited By The Mighty Thor

there was no tounge and i didn't like it that they showed more eddie then venom and they didn't say we

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#48  Edited By The_Martian

Yeah they didn't say "we" which would have been cool. And I already mentioned the showing eddie thing. But besides that it was very well done.

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#49  Edited By The Mighty Thor

true but i did like it how they put the lines on him

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#50  Edited By Eternal Chaos

It was terrible. He wasn't anything like tradition Venom. I'm pissed that they even called that wannabe venom, Venom