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#1 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

vs

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#2 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Carnage.

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#3 Posted by General Sylux (264 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider Carnage

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#4 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Finally something we can agree on

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#5 Posted by General Sylux (264 posts) - - Show Bio

The carnage symbiote always was stronger than the venom symbiote.

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#6 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

It most certainly isn't now. Venom always kicked Carnage's ass.

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#7 Posted by General Sylux (264 posts) - - Show Bio

Only because Brock was smarter than cletus now the intelligence is Equal so I bet Spider-Carnage has the Upper hand.

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#8 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

No dude. Currently, the Venom Symbiote, is super human class 60, Carnage is, or was 50. So Venom's suit is stronger than Carnage's

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#9 Posted by General Sylux (264 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't that because the scorpion is it's current host and scorpion has class 20 strength already.

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#10 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah but after a while the suit absorbes abilities of the current users. Just like when it absorbed Spidey's powers and strength when he got it in Secret Wars. When the suit is off Gargan, and it goes back to Brock, he's gonna be a bigger powerhouse. and have more everything.

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#11 Posted by ArchVenom (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes honestly Spider-Venom, Carnage was always kind of a pushover. It all started with Venom and will end with him.

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#12 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Even though Spider-Carnage would win, the Current Venom symbiote would win.

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#13 Posted by ArchVenom (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Well you are right Spider-Carnage would win but if we would have been talking Traditional Venom he would ultimately overcome him.

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#14 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Exactly

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#15 Posted by ArchVenom (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I was apalled at the job Spider-man 3 did with Venom ....

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#16 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

You too? I was absolutly disgusted. The went completely out of character with him. He asked for help, he was much smaller in comparison to his comic book size, he had no tongue and had a gray spider not the white one, and than he was so much weaker. His voice was too... Topher for my liking. I hope that perhaps in part 4 Sam Raimi won't screw it up and that maybe he'll revive Venom and do my favorite character justice

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#17 Posted by ArchVenom (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah I agree hopefully bring him back for a team up on Carnage. I also was annoyed with all of it they made him too small and he did not have the tongue and drool all over ya know? That is key venom also he spoke as one person. You know he said "I" instead of " We" which made no sense. To me it was horrible to give that disgraceful charector the name of Venom

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#18 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

okay so bascially the new venom with spiderman would win and the old venom will lose and plus i meant new venom with spiderman

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#19 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

o and you guys do know that scarlet spider is spider carnage

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#20 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

That I know. I have the book. I thought the movie was pretty good, no doubt, but it needed work. They didn't do Venom justice, that's all that bothered me. He wasn't done correctly.

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#21 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

he was more evil and there was no tounge

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#22 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

He was less evil. He was a big baby. He was no better than Carnage. I disliked him. point blank.

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#23 Posted by Bane_delete (828 posts) - - Show Bio

SPIDER-CANAGE

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#24 Posted by ArchVenom (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah people say he was more villainous but to me he was just a wuss. I love the real venom from the comics and that silly animated show better.

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#25 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitly. He was so cool, he didn't have his comedy, his anger, his rage. He wasn't even really Venom. I hope they do him justice in the next movie

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#26 Posted by acewasp23 (6184 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Carnage would have it.

Spider-man 3 It was good. I'm a fan of sam rami's work (like evil-dead) the prob was he didnt want to have venom in his movies. He said that he has no character (which is wrong he has a lot of character) he wanted to do the movie with the sandman.

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#27 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Sam Raimi is a loser just for saying that. He deprived Sandman of his character. He turned Sandman into a charity case

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#28 Posted by acewasp23 (6184 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL yeah i know.

he was trying to give every one what they wanted.

New goblin(which sucked), venom, and he wanted to do sandman.

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#29 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

He should've just left it at Sandman than. To hell with new goblin (btw, he didn't even do the outfits correctly, like wtf) and Venom could've came later I would've waited...

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#30 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

how can you guys say spider carnage

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#31 Posted by Boken (7784 posts) - - Show Bio

venom.

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#32 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom would win, but spidey with the black suit loses to reilly with the red suit

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#33 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

spidy with the new venom would be so much stronger like you said on the last page. i know spider-carnage would win if it was spiderman with the old venom

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#34 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Well that goes without saying. Lol. Old Black loses to old red. New black, kill old red.

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#35 Posted by Boken (7784 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Venom would win, but spidey with the black suit loses to reilly with the red suit"

i agree

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#36 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

i know but i meant new black suit and some of you guys says spider-canger, why?

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#37 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Well we know now, so we can all agree that Spider Carnage is weaker than the current black suit.

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#38 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

yea

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#39 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty much.

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#40 Posted by crazy spidey (3474 posts) - - Show Bio

carnage

u cant help it hes just amazing, though venom kicks some major ass

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#41 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

Dude, Venom's better. Venom kills Carnage. That's it.

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#42 Posted by Venom eddie brock (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I love the way spiderman3 did venom it was just a lot cooler to me in my oponion

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#43 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

really why

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#44 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought they did a terrible job with Venom in Spider-Man 3

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#45 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

thank you i mean it was okay but comic is better

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#46 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

My biggest problem which Venom in Spidey 3 was how much he was actually in the movie and how everytime they did a close up he would remove the mask. Besides that I thought they did a decent job showing him on the big screen. Yeah Eddie didn't look like the tradition Eddie but he played the part well.

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#47 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

there was no tounge and i didn't like it that they showed more eddie then venom and they didn't say we

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#48 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah they didn't say "we" which would have been cool. And I already mentioned the showing eddie thing. But besides that it was very well done.

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#49 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

true but i did like it how they put the lines on him

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#50 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

It was terrible. He wasn't anything like tradition Venom. I'm pissed that they even called that wannabe venom, Venom