SS drains Superman, and then it's a toss-up between him and Martian Manhunter.
Silver Surfer Vs. Superman & Martian Manhunter
Silver Surfer is simply outright more powerful than Superman in every way apart from physical strength – but that makes no difference because he is too durable to be hurt by Superman’s own physical attacks, given that he can casually hang out in a black hole (or he could just go intangible to avoid them) and he has a multitude of other powers that he could use to defeat the Kryptonian hero.
The Silver Surfer is many times faster than light, whereas Superman’s speed tends to cap off at around lightspeed, so the Surfer can win the fight in a straight up one-on-one battle before Superman has processed a thought.
He could do so, for example, by turning Superman in to a teapot using transmutation – something that Superman has absolutely no defence against – or he could emit massive amounts of Kryptonite radiation, given that he has a proven ability to do such things with varying types of radiation.
If he was feeling eccentric, he could transmute Clark’s heart into a block of Kryptonite – and I remind you, this would all happen before Superman could process a thought, thanks to Surfer’s incalculably superior speed. Martian Would give Ss a better fight
superman could beat surfer physically if he had time to and manhunter could beat him mentally if he had time too neither last long enough to do either.
1) Yes, because sundipping increases his power and we're talking about a base Superman here.
2) Actually, he basically did an IMP tackle into the moon and got KO'd by the force of the explosion, whereas Thor has destroyed planetoids with a single swing.
And even managed to hurt the likes of Exitar with his godblasts. Characters on his level (Morg, BRB, etc) have all destroyed planets.
IIRC that's Warrior madness Thor
Oooops.....
Pretty sure Supes put holes in a bunch of small planets, before casually destroying Daxam
@kenshima15: If by small planets you mean "smaller than the Metroplois river", yes he did
Surfer stomps actually. Casually at that
Honestly how people feel surfer vs the Manhunter is even a fight, I don't know. Even ignoring the vast gulf in speed, firepower and durability feats , surfer can simply set him on fire and watch him burn
@thegrayghost: Does Surfer know about MM' s weakness ? And, moreover, could he be affected in some way by telepathy ?
@madripoor: Surfer has cosmic awareness that allows him to know precise wavelength of radiation required to hurt Gladiator just as one thing
So yeah ...I'm pretty comfortable saying he will know about the fire weakness that well...everyone on DC earth knows about
As far as TP goes,not that it will come to that, but Surfer has lolnoped Moondragon using the mind gem while himself doing things like affecting the emotions of every being on a planet with a telepathic signal , calming them down
I'm willing to bet that's more than good enough to deal with Jonn
Anyway basically though , Surfer's simply waaay faster than Jonn, and has waay better feats of firepower and durability to extent that I'm dubious that Jonn can even hurt him physically
Surfer stomps
@thegrayghost: Yep, that said Surfer wins.
Surfer.
@proto3296: I don't know why people always put Superman against SS. If your gonna do that remove SS draining power at least.
@thegrayghost: You're thinking of something else friend.
@kenshima15: what
Superman would have to spend most of the fight to avoid getting drained, Supes might help Manhunter lose this fight. MM has a better chance without Superman
Surfer has search 7 billion people in like 5 seconds and travelled from Latrevia to Baxter building got the Fantastic 4 and back to Latrevia in 0 seconds that puts him in higher than attosecond range.
Speed blitz ftw
No it doesn't. Surfer has no feats with on the attosecond level.
Hate these threads, always make me want to curbstomp the OP's genitalia off.
How so?
@the_caped_crusader: Because they take all of the fun out of comicvine, especially when you've seen battles so similar to this its not even mildly entertaining to read the fanboy rants anymore.
@the_caped_crusader: Because they take all of the fun out of comicvine, especially when you've seen battles so similar to this its not even mildly entertaining to read the fanboy rants anymore.
True.
Surfer stomps actually. Casually at that
Honestly how people feel surfer vs the Manhunter is even a fight, I don't know. Even ignoring the vast gulf in speed, firepower and durability feats , surfer can simply set him on fire and watch him burn
What people don't realize is that superman holds back alot of power. I can see surfer being too much for superman but he would loose to MMH. And I think superman could beat thor in a fight.
SS
Although MM would prove to be quite a challange
MM is one of my favourite DC characters (I'm happy he finally got his own comic again)
What people don't realize is that superman holds back alot of power. I can see surfer being too much for superman but he would loose to MMH.
He really wouldn't.
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