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#1  Edited By brainiac 1.0

vs

Who wins and why

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#2  Edited By brainiac 1.0

Nobody knows

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#3  Edited By The Vine Robots

Silver Surfer.

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#4  Edited By King_Saturn
Monarch will defeat the Silver Surfer.  But this is gonna be one hell of a fight  !
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#5  Edited By Static Shock

I wanna say Monarach.

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#6  Edited By T.J. Magnum

well could go both ways,i give monarch my vote

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#7  Edited By SeSAW

Good fight I say Surfer currently with the way hes fighting now.

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#8  Edited By Ball Buster

Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote.

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#9  Edited By brainiac 1.0
Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance
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#10  Edited By King_Saturn
brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
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#11  Edited By King_Saturn
brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
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#12  Edited By brainiac 1.0
King Saturn said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
"

But silver surfer would just blitz him or something.
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#13  Edited By King_Saturn
brainiac 1.0 said:
"King Saturn said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
"

But silver surfer would just blitz him or something."
I dont know if it will be that easy... I am sure Monarch has some level of speed himself
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#14  Edited By brainiac 1.0
King Saturn said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"King Saturn said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
"

But silver surfer would just blitz him or something."
I dont know if it will be that easy... I am sure Monarch has some level of speed himself
"
With that armor can he move that fast.
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#15  Edited By the creator

Silver Surfer has a limit to the enrgy he can access and project.
Monarch does not appear to have a limit.

Monarch has proven capable of engaging in physical combat with Superboy Prime and effectively has hugely upgraded Capt Atom powers.

This means that he has unlimited ability to absorb energy (as he channels it in to the Quantum field - a dimension filled with pure energy) and almost immeasureable ability to manipulate it.
His biggest energy release (but we still don't know if it killed him) vapourised an entire galaxy / dimension. That is power on a scale that the Surfer cannot duplicate (even Galactus cannot duplicate it).
Monarch has a similar control over matter as he does energy as he can free up the energy contained in matter and thus control it / destroy it.
Monarch's strength can be increased by power from the Quantum field and thus may also be almost unlimited.

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#16  Edited By Static Shock
the creator said:
"

Silver Surfer has a limit to the enrgy he can access and project.
Monarch does not appear to have a limit.

Monarch has proven capable of engaging in physical combat with Superboy Prime and effectively has hugely upgraded Capt Atom powers.

This means that he has unlimited ability to absorb energy (as he channels it in to the Quantum field - a dimension filled with pure energy) and almost immeasureable ability to manipulate it.
His biggest energy release (but we still don't know if it killed him) vapourised an entire galaxy / dimension. That is power on a scale that the Surfer cannot duplicate (even Galactus cannot duplicate it).
Monarch has a similar control over matter as he does energy as he can free up the energy contained in matter and thus control it / destroy it.
Monarch's strength can be increased by power from the Quantum field and thus may also be almost unlimited.

"
And, this was a potential that he possessed even when he was Captain Atom.
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#17  Edited By the creator
Static Shock said:
"And, this was a potential that he possessed even when he was Captain Atom.
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Yes, but he seemed to lack the full scope / control he displayed as Monarch.

Before, getting hit by and absorbing huige energy releases would bump him through the time stream but this did not happen in Countdown - hence better control.
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#18  Edited By never give up

Monarch for the win.

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#19  Edited By Static Shock

Monarch.

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#20  Edited By geraldthesloth

Surfer

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#21  Edited By HalJordan1986x
Static Shock said:
"Monarch."
Agreed
The guy stalemated prime
and we all know prime would stomp surfer

surfer dies a horrible death in this fight
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#22  Edited By The_Scourge
vampyreswrath said:
"how would prime stomp the surfer fuck head.he can rip the radiation out of him and make him his bitch.read up on the surfer and pull supermans dick out of your mouth.maybe if you knew anything about marvel instead of rideing dc nutts u might have a clue"
coll down :P anyways im goin for surfer here
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#23  Edited By Hadrelius

Monarch could only win if he could manipulate the power cosmic. His energies wouldn't do much against the Surfer, he's faced greater.

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#24  Edited By SeSAW

Epic battle but Surfer wins he has faced greater and monarch still needs his suit to contain his energies.

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#25  Edited By vuviper
@SeSAW:  The suit is to protect everyone else isn't it? Who has surfer faced that is greater? I don't read much Marvel
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#26  Edited By Psyker star

Surfer would win

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#27  Edited By Ziro

Monarch(I really don't see Surfer pulling out the win in this one.).
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#28  Edited By czarny_samael666

Monarch in curbtomp. 
Surfer can do nothing to him...

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#29  Edited By CAPiTA

Monarch...
 
...but current Surfer would put up a fight.

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#30  Edited By AtPhantom
@CAPiTA said:
" Monarch... ...but current Surfer would put up a fight. "
No he wouldn't.
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#31  Edited By MrDirector786
@the creator said:
"

Silver Surfer has a limit to the enrgy he can access and project.
Monarch does not appear to have a limit.

Monarch has proven capable of engaging in physical combat with Superboy Prime and effectively has hugely upgraded Capt Atom powers.

This means that he has unlimited ability to absorb energy (as he channels it in to the Quantum field - a dimension filled with pure energy) and almost immeasureable ability to manipulate it.
His biggest energy release (but we still don't know if it killed him) vapourised an entire galaxy / dimension. That is power on a scale that the Surfer cannot duplicate (even Galactus cannot duplicate it).
Monarch has a similar control over matter as he does energy as he can free up the energy contained in matter and thus control it / destroy it.
Monarch's strength can be increased by power from the Quantum field and thus may also be almost unlimited.

"

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#32  Edited By CAPiTA
@AtPhantom said:

" @CAPiTA said:

" Monarch... ...but current Surfer would put up a fight. "
No he wouldn't. "
he and Surfer are too similar, and though Monarch has much more raw power, it's not farfetched to say Surfer could absorb a good amount of it to use against him.
 
now, i don't think Surfer could beat him at all, but he'd pull out a good fight.
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#33  Edited By AtPhantom
@CAPiTA said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @CAPiTA said:
" Monarch... ...but current Surfer would put up a fight. "
No he wouldn't. "
he and Surfer are too similar, and though Monarch has much more raw power, it's not farfetched to say Surfer could absorb a good amount of it to use against him. "
Yes it is. If he tried, he would overload, or simply be denied.
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#34  Edited By MrDirector786

I don't think the Surfer can absorb enough energy to destroy the universe. Plus, Monarch is far stronger.

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#35  Edited By CAPiTA
@AtPhantom said:
" @CAPiTA said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @CAPiTA said:
" Monarch... ...but current Surfer would put up a fight. "
No he wouldn't. "
he and Surfer are too similar, and though Monarch has much more raw power, it's not farfetched to say Surfer could absorb a good amount of it to use against him. "
Yes it is. If he tried, he would overload, or simply be denied. "

getting denied i can see. overloading, not so much.
 
@MrDirector786 said:
" I don't think the Surfer can absorb enough energy to destroy the universe. Plus, Monarch is far stronger. "
he drained Blackbody AND the Uni-Lord, who had enough energy to destroy his universe. he also channeled The Crunch, and matched Thanos' power output while he was injured. i don't see Monarch overloading Surfer any time soon.
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#36  Edited By Caligula

Monarch here.
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#37  Edited By walid44

what i like of SS is he never gives up, So im for SS.

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@walid44 said:
"what i like of SS is he never gives up, So im for SS. "

Kick-Ass never gives up, so I guess he could defeat Monarch as well
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#39  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Monarch.
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#40  Edited By Static Shock

Monarch.

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#41  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
I would change it to Surfer for the sake of the debate, but I honestly think Monarch would win.
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#42  Edited By Cypher's Gambit

The Surfer takes my pick.

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#43  Edited By CosmicSpiral

Monarch is too powerful for the Surfer to overcome. Surfer can take consolation that he won't get one-shotted like all those versions of Superman. 

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#44  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous
@the creator said:

Silver Surfer has a limit to the enrgy he can access and project.
Monarch does not appear to have a limit.

Monarch has proven capable of engaging in physical combat with Superboy Prime and effectively has hugely upgraded Capt Atom powers.

This means that he has unlimited ability to absorb energy (as he channels it in to the Quantum field - a dimension filled with pure energy) and almost immeasureable ability to manipulate it.
His biggest energy release (but we still don't know if it killed him) vapourised an entire galaxy / dimension. That is power on a scale that the Surfer cannot duplicate (even Galactus cannot duplicate it).
Monarch has a similar control over matter as he does energy as he can free up the energy contained in matter and thus control it / destroy it.
Monarch's strength can be increased by power from the Quantum field and thus may also be almost unlimited.

I know this is a really old thread but I was wondering does Surfer have a limit to the power he can access? because I'v seen some people say he does and some say he doesn't 
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@spiderbat87: Yes.

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#46  Edited By TheMightyAvenger

Monarch, he is on a completely superior level.

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#47  Edited By Static Shock

Surfer could win, arguably.

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#48  Edited By monarch2016

monarch is in galactus level and he would beat silver surfer easy

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#49  Edited By Static Shock

@baron2011 said:

monarch is in galactus level and he would beat silver surfer easy

Monarch isn't Galactus-level.

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@Static Shock: How?