@kingant27: "@captain_batman_ftw: lol Norrin outclasses him in every aspect you stated, and be isn't underratted at all, he is rated appropriately." Prove it, you make a lot of statements all the time with no evidence. Prove that Surfer is faster, cause I doubt that very much, as Hal has been able to perceive and catch someone who is faster than Surfer by a huge margin, that being Zoom. Can you also prove that Surfer got better energy blasts when Hal has been able to put down Amazo (with Superman+ durability) with one blast, blast a hole through Cyborg Superman, take out Krona. Prove it that Surfer has better durability cause Hal has taken hits from abstract beings multiple times, he has casually taken a blast from freaking Sinestro (someone who outclasses Surfer by a good margin as well) with a smile on his face after getting blasted from one side of the moon to the other. Prove it that Surfer is more powerful when Hal has been able to do good against abstracts and hold his own against abstracts. He has done good against Zero Hour Parallax, Krona, Kyle Rayner Parallax, and Sinestro Parallax. Sure, Hal took a beating from Sinestro, but a) his power level is bad in the new 52. b) he has done good against other abstracts, and he has done good against Sinestro Parallax before. Surfer isn't more versatile either, as Hal can fry the synapses in someones brain, shields, blasts, any kind of constructs (this alone makes him more versatile).
"and be isn't underratted at all, he is rated appropriately". Have you been living under a rock? Hal is very underrated here on the vine, as well as the public people. If people says that Thor, Hulk and freaking Sentry can defeat him, then he's underrated; very much. Norrin on the other hand is portrayed by the fans here on the vine to be on par with Odin.
"Norrin is faster, has time travel, can percieve all time as one, has cosmic awareness, has superior durability and invunerability." Norrin isn't faster, not by a longshot, Hal has speed feats that surpasses Norrin's. I've stated one, but another one is where he takes out Parallax before he could react, but I'm still waiting for you to prove this statement. Perceiving time as one is something he rarely uses to his advantage, he didn't use it to his advantage against the time Thor flew right past him before Norrin could react, didn't use it all the times Thor hit him. Also, he doesn't even use his speed that much, let alone see time as one. He doesn't har superior durability, invulnerability, probably, but prove that he has superior durability.
"Norrin could out blast Hal, and he could take Hal's hits, and come back from them, Norrin is his superior, however a lot of Dc fans have ignored time travel; which Hal has no counter to as well." No, he can't outblast Hal, as Hal has superior feats, no, he an't tank Hal's hits when his hits have taken out beings with Surfer+ durability. No, we don't ignore time travel, it's out of character for Surfer to do that; show me at least 10 instances of him doing so to his advantage out of his thousand appearances.
Overall, just prove that Hal is inferior to surfer; something he's actualy not, but at least try to do so.
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