Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern [Hal Jordan]
I think Hal Jordan because his blasts can stagger Superman. Well actually Norrin could probably do that too. Hal Jordan is good at hand to hand combat and can use his ring to make his physical stregnth increased to incredible levels.But yes you couldn't argue with the fact it would be an epic fight.
What's this BS about Namor beating Surfer are we still going through that crap AGAIN? Did you guys ever hear of PIS? In fact I don't think it ever happened. Pacifist Surfer and Namor trade blows, nothing happens but Namor getting his attention and then some talk
Why not bring up the retarded armbar incident?
The fact is when Surfer isn't wrote by the rare comicbook morons he's almost unbeatable minus the top tier cosmics, classic gods and reality warpers who can probably own him bad but if your guys aren't at this level your guy isn't going far
Hal is great, he's got one of the great weapons
he's a smart fighter with great feats but when you get past the Green Lantern ring he's just a man
Surfer is too fast, like Flash fast
Too much energy, he can atomize people or scorch worlds, he would give DoctorFate, Ego and the Pantheons trouble
Too smart, he's a top tier atomic manipulator
Too durable, like shakes off planet busters and supernova like they are a bit of bad weather
and Surfer has a tonne of feats to back himself up
Also for the TC original post
Surfer isnt a galactic guardian..he finds planets for his master to consume..thats hardly guarding anything
"Also for the TC original post Surfer isnt a galactic guardian..he finds planets for his master to consume..thats hardly guarding anything "
LOL this more then guardian the universe. If big G can't eat he dies, if he dies then gues ho shows up and destroys the universe ? Yes is abraxas . So in a way he IS defending the universe.
" @Johnny_Nemesis said:too true!LOL this more then guardian the universe. If big G can't eat he dies, if he dies then gues ho shows up and destroys the universe ? Yes is abraxas . So in a way he IS defending the universe. ""Also for the TC original post Surfer isnt a galactic guardian..he finds planets for his master to consume..thats hardly guarding anything "
"Silver surfer had trouble with the fantastic 4 on the movies, had trouble against Thor, Namour, Hulk, Mefisto, Thanos and of couse, Galactus so he's not unbeatable He can beat Kyle but not Jordan "
He didn't have trouble with the FF, infact they needed a plot device to cut him off from that particular surfer's power source, other than that he was owning Doom FF and the US military with ease in every encounter. Namor he can vaporize, the Hulk he can trade blows and has the ability to siphon him back to Banner, Thanos beats everyone and honestly OFCOURSE Galactus would stomp his own damn herald.
Bad writing having storm somehow hurt someone that flies through stars, which are a crapload more potent than anything in Storm's arsenal."Silver Surfer should win here... but the fact that Namor and Storm have been able to hurt the Surfer... gives me confidence Hal could really bust the Surfer down to the White Meat even if he doesnt win here "
He trades blows with the Hulk, with neither showing much harm (to be completely fair, Norrin's skin never shows much harm even if your beating him to death) Namor would get beaten hand to hand against Norrin. :P
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What's this BS about Namor beating Surfer are we still going through that crap AGAIN? Did you guys ever hear of PIS? In fact I don't think it ever happened. Pacifist Surfer and Namor trade blows, nothing happens but Namor getting his attention and then some talk
Why not bring up the retarded armbar incident?
The fact is when Surfer isn't wrote by the rare comicbook morons he's almost unbeatable minus the top tier cosmics, classic gods and reality warpers who can probably own him bad but if your guys aren't at this level your guy isn't going far
Hal is great, he's got one of the great weapons
he's a smart fighter with great feats but when you get past the Green Lantern ring he's just a man
Surfer is too fast, like Flash fast
Too much energy, he can atomize people or scorch worlds, he would give DoctorFate, Ego and the Pantheons trouble
Too smart, he's a top tier atomic manipulator
Too durable, like shakes off planet busters and supernova like they are a bit of bad weather
and Surfer has a tonne of feats to back himself up "
Could not have said it better my self.
" @BatDance said:Agree. Only thing I could disagree is speed. I am not sure that Surfer is faster than Hal."Could not have said it better my self. "
What's this BS about Namor beating Surfer are we still going through that crap AGAIN? Did you guys ever hear of PIS? In fact I don't think it ever happened. Pacifist Surfer and Namor trade blows, nothing happens but Namor getting his attention and then some talk
Why not bring up the retarded armbar incident?
The fact is when Surfer isn't wrote by the rare comicbook morons he's almost unbeatable minus the top tier cosmics, classic gods and reality warpers who can probably own him bad but if your guys aren't at this level your guy isn't going far
Hal is great, he's got one of the great weapons
he's a smart fighter with great feats but when you get past the Green Lantern ring he's just a man
Surfer is too fast, like Flash fast
Too much energy, he can atomize people or scorch worlds, he would give DoctorFate, Ego and the Pantheons trouble
Too smart, he's a top tier atomic manipulator
Too durable, like shakes off planet busters and supernova like they are a bit of bad weather
and Surfer has a tonne of feats to back himself up "
If you say Batman is human is fair enough but since Hal with the ring can travel though galaxies without needing air (or even tele tranport himself from one place to another) and has one of the most powerful weapons of the universe how was said (the limit is only the imagination) I bet in Hal
surfer, the movie used a plot device to make him more beatable.we all know he is not powered by his board. in fact most comics create some form of plot device so an inferior being can beat him, but without these he's unbeatable except by cosmic entities. trust me surfer can easily own Hal or simply just depower him.
surfer, the movie used a plot device to make him more beatable.we all know he is not powered by his board. in fact most comics create some form of plot device so an inferior being can beat him, but without these he's unbeatable except by cosmic entities. trust me surfer can easily own Hal or simply just depower him.
This is not even close!! If you take out PIS and go by powers Surfer OWNS hal with EASE!! Based on his powers he is virtually invulnerable (can survive suns/planet explosions etc.) He can access hyper space and fly faster than light speed, and if that wasn't enough, He can rearrange matter. He could turn hal into a jello mold!
While I agree Surfer would win
@Valkaad said:
" he is virtually invulnerable (can survive suns/planet explosions etc.) "He's been KO'd by Thanos, knocked on his ass by Rhino, and nearly got fried by Storm's lightning
@Valkaad said:
" He can access hyper space and fly faster than light speed, and if that wasn't enough"Which doesn't help him in combat
@Valkaad said:
" He can rearrange matter. "
Lantern shields protect against matter manipulation
How does faster than light travel not help you in combat??? He could attack jordan and kill him before he knew what was happening.
Didn't know that about the shields. I have a feeling surfer is powerful enough to overcome any shield hal could put up.
I know you said you think surfer would win (I agree). I am just wondering how anyone thinks Hal could hurt surfer in any way?
" @Red_Blade: That was after Thanos was resurrected by death and Thanos was basically in a league of his own. "Thanos beat Surfer to death, with his bare fist,
Lightning hurt him a few times actually ,if its consistent then it isnt PIS
Because Surfer can't access hyperspace in combat, the only time he can access it is when hes traveling from point A to point B, in terms of combat speed and reflexes Surfer is slow as hell
Not really, Lanterns can shield from planetary explosions and black holes and contain Super novas
Simple, Hal can hurt him the same way other people do
" @Valkaad said:AS is said Thanos is in a league of his own." @Red_Blade: That was after Thanos was resurrected by death and Thanos was basically in a league of his own. "Thanos beat Surfer to death, with his bare fist, Lightning hurt him a few times actually ,if its consistent then it isnt PIS Because Surfer can't access hyperspace in combat, the only time he can access it is when hes traveling from point A to point B, in terms of combat speed and reflexes Surfer is slow as hell Not really, Lanterns can shield from planetary explosions and black holes and contain Super novas Simple, Hal can hurt him the same way other people do "
Based on powers surfers reflexes are not slow! He can move his entire body at superhuman speeds.
HOW is hal going to hurt him??
" @Red_Blade said:Not really, without tech and weapons and prep Thanos is a pretty pathetic character, Gamora Kazar Spider Man and Grimm have all knocked him on his ass before" @Valkaad said:AS is said Thanos is in a league of his own. Based on powers surfers reflexes are not slow! He can move his entire body at superhuman speeds. HOW is hal going to hurt him?? "" @Red_Blade: That was after Thanos was resurrected by death and Thanos was basically in a league of his own. "Thanos beat Surfer to death, with his bare fist, Lightning hurt him a few times actually ,if its consistent then it isnt PIS Because Surfer can't access hyperspace in combat, the only time he can access it is when hes traveling from point A to point B, in terms of combat speed and reflexes Surfer is slow as hell Not really, Lanterns can shield from planetary explosions and black holes and contain Super novas Simple, Hal can hurt him the same way other people do "
His reflexes are slow, he got beaten to death by Thanos whos a slow brick
Simple, the same way Storm and many others hurt him, Surfer is no where near invincible and is durability pales in comparison to other characters
" SS should take any GL! "Yes i would agree but Hal has been damn impressive as of late.
"Thanos beat Surfer to death, with his bare fist, Lightning hurt him a few times actually ,if its consistent then it isnt PIS Because Surfer can't access hyperspace in combat, the only time he can access it is when hes traveling from point A to point B, in terms of combat speed and reflexes Surfer is slow as hell Not really, Lanterns can shield from planetary explosions and black holes and contain Super novas Simple, Hal can hurt him the same way other people do "Slow as hell?
Norrin written to the best of his ability shouldn't get tagged period, but thats the comic book world where guys like Deathstroke can tag the Flash.
Rhino pushed the Surfer around, he didn't at all hurt him. Thats like saying Namor "won" against the surfer by knocking him off his board, when in fact next panel Norrin was threatening to vaporize him.
I remember the Hulk being fairly suprised at how light Norrin is. He's strong, hes durable, but he hasn't been shown to be very heavy.
Yes its BAD writing when someone that flies through stars, sits in black holes not feeling a thing, and in general has been exposed and absorbed to much more potent forms of energy, suddently finds himself being harmed by lightling, thunder, or hell anything that comes out of a cloud. -BLACKPANTHER ARMBARZ-
@Red_Blade said:
"I've already addressed these scans numerous times, I already said Surfer wins here, but hes still slow as hell in combat compared to numerous other characters "
@Red_Blade said:
"Not really, without tech and weapons and prep Thanos is a pretty pathetic character, Gamora Kazar Spider Man and Grimm have all knocked him on his ass before His reflexes are slow, he got beaten to death by Thanos whos a slow brick Simple, the same way Storm and many others hurt him, Surfer is no where near invincible and is durability pales in comparison to other characters "
Is this the same Thanos that slaps around the avengers and Thor like ragdolls? The Hulk and Drax? Yeah it tottally makes sense that Spidey has taken him down, just like him taking down Firelord wasn't garbage.
Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
I haven't seen anything to suggest Thanos is a better fighter then Xavier is
Classic Thor not a big deal, plus Thor has put Thanos on his ass a few times also, he always beat down a powered down smart Hulk and Drax has been hurt by people who aren't even class 100.
I never said Spidey took him down either, I said characters like Spidey and Grimm have knocked him around before, never said anything about beating him.
And Surfer is still slow in combat and reflexes
@Red_Blade said:
"I haven't seen anything to suggest Thanos is a better fighter then Xavier is."
"Classic Thor not a big deal, plus Thor has put Thanos on his ass a few times also, he always beat down a powered down smart Hulk and Drax has been hurt by people who aren't even class 100.
I never said Spidey took him down either, I said characters like Spidey and Grimm have knocked him around before, never said anything about beating him.
And Surfer is still slow in combat and reflexes "
PG Thor did give him that nasty bloody nose, but generally he owns Norrin with his punches and takes down the Avengers with a twirl of his arms, slaps Drax and the Hulk together with a pimp smack, laughs off She Hulk and Namor, in general those two wouldn't have a chance of beating him or even really harming him.
"I bet in Hal Jordan!!!! "
dude , in your last post you use a movie to debate in this threat, i dont think thats even cannon. you better read a comic and the debate using back up information that is relevant.
classic thor beating the silver surfer is debatable( but i think if its current thor(with odin force) vs current silevr surfer i say thor takes it in my opinion), namor hurting ss is pis.
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