Silver Surfer, Thanos and Thor Vs Pre Crisis Darkseid
Silver Surfer, Thanos and Thor Vs Pre Crisis Darkseid
" pre crisis beam=FTW "Mjöllnir in theory could smash the beam back into PC Darkseid's face,
Thanos would give him a little trouble but PC would win
Throw in a Hammer with Odin Power and a blitzer like Surfer to help out Thanos and this starts turning into a stomp
" Pre Crisis stomps this team badly....he would simply hand wave them away "I dont think the Omega Beams are activated by Hand Signals...
" @Johnny_Blazed said:No but he could just smack them into comas" Pre Crisis stomps this team badly....he would simply hand wave them away "I dont think the Omega Beams are activated by Hand Signals... "
" No but he could just smack them into comas "Darkseid doesn't fly,
SS can blitz faster than Flash
how's he gonna hurt Surfer? Harsh language?
Thor has crazy durability, if Thor fights smart his Mjöllnir will probably ping-pong the Omega Effect like Wonder Woman's bracelets did
Thanos has insane durability that would shame Thor, he's gonna be enough trouble for PC Darkseid without throwing in the other two to help
" @King Saturn said:thats possible" @Johnny_Blazed said:No but he could just smack them into comas "" Pre Crisis stomps this team badly....he would simply hand wave them away "I dont think the Omega Beams are activated by Hand Signals... "
" @Johnny_Blazed said:Actually Darkseid can fly" No but he could just smack them into comas "Darkseid doesn't fly, SS can blitz faster than Flashhow's he gonna hurt Surfer? Harsh language?Thor has crazy durability, his Mjöllnir will probably ping-pong the Omega Effect like Wonder Woman's bracelets didThanos has insane durability that would shame Thor, he's gonna be enough trouble for PC Darkseid without throwing in the other two to help "
Surfer isnt faster then Flash
and he would hurt him the same way Namor Hulk Thanos and Thor have in the past...by hitting him in the face..although a hit from PC Darkseid would send Surfer to the after life
Surfer cant deflect the Omega beams anyway, he sure as hell didnt deflect Storms lighting,
Thanos cant even post crisis DS, PC slaughters him and Thor
PC Darkseid for the win (fairly easily).
The opponents he has beaten and the feats he has performed clearly show he is vastly more powerful.
" Actually Darkseid can fly"Can he really?
The only time I've seen him fly
is flying through the air after Supergirl smashes his head around
3 punches and he almost dies
Ok that's a bit unfair, PC Darkseid is really hardcore and could probably beat Thanos but he is far from the invincible menace you fanboys describe
He even got put on his ass by Supergirl
"@Johnny_Blazed said:Ok, firstly the last image is not PC Darkseid, it's set in the Superman comic after the relaunch of Superman by John Byrne - post crisis." Actually Darkseid can fly"Can he really?
The only time I've seen him fly
is flying through the air after Supergirl smashes his head around
3 punches and he almost dies
Ok that's a bit unfair, PC Darkseid is really hardcore and could probably beat Thanos but he is far from the invincible menace you fanboys describeHe even got put on his ass by Supergirl"
And I page does not show the full battle - so it can be misleading.
Your first 2 images do shown PC Darkseid but so what he gets thrown around by Supergirl and gets knocked off his feet by a blow from Superman and Supergirl. These are PC Kryptonians, who can push planets around. So although his durability and strength exceed theirs, it is not surprising that they can accomplish this feat. These scans come from the Great Darkness saga set in the 30th century when Darkseid fights the Legion.
Now because you forgot to read the text in the second image where Superman and Supergirl are hitting him, you may not have realised that the pair of them are operating under a red sun thanks to a power boost - a tactic that caught Darkseid off guard.
Now PC Darkseid, not only having strength sufficient to meet PC Superman in hand to hand combat effectively but also the speed to do so and the durability to take energy blasts from beings a lot more powerful than PC Superman (Mordru, Time Trapper) and punches from several beings as strong as PC Superman at the same time (as the example in your second image).
His omega beams where not limited as they are in the post crisis universe. They were capable of disintegrating almost any being, travelling through dimensions, not simply around objects to hit beings, could restore beings from death and teleport them through time and space. In the 30th Century (Legion of Superheroes time), PC Darkseid's mental and mystic abilities were shown to be massive and this was only when he was regaining him strength - reaching his former levels. He mentally dominated an entire planet of 3 billion Daxamites (those beings similar to Kryptonians), mentally enslaving them and controlling their actions over galactic distances. He did this at the same time as mentally controlling duplicates of Orion, Kalibak, Superman, a Guardian of the Universe and Shadowlass.
With a brief use of his Omega Beams (and not wishing to kill him as he wanted information), PC Darkseid ko'ed Mon-el (who was as powerful as PC Superman). In less than a second, he had read all there was to know from Mon-el's mind. He teleports the entire Daxamite planet across the universe, so that it can sit below a yellow sun (while simultaneously moving the planet's whose position Daxam was taking, back to Daxam's original orbit) - so thats 2 planets moved at the same time.
PC Darkseid took on and beat Mordru, who was described by the legion as being as powerful as the entire Legion of Superheroes, who was the most powerful magic user in the 30th century (a former Lord of Chaos). He also defeated Time Trapper, another being at least as powerful as the entire Legion, who managed to steal a fraction of a second of time from the history of the universe and duplicate the entire universe - thus creating his own pocket dimension.
And on top of all that he has beaten the Legion. It was only the intervention of Highfathers 'spirit' that permitted them to be healed and engage PC Darkseid in battle again.
Yes, I think PC Darkseid wins this battle.
"@king_james_5 said:And none of them are near the power level of the PC Legion of Superheroes, or PC Maordru or PC Time Trapper - beings / groups PC Darkseid beat."Seriously not! He won't take all of them. That's three heavy hitters, and Thanos is the one to watch. He'll use the other two to bring him down. "pre crisis would take these with little problem from the numbers game
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His feats go well beyond theirs.
How exactly are Darkseids Omega Effect beams going to disintigrate anything? They don't even work on powerhouses like Doomsday and Superman. People forget that Thanos has insane personal shields capable of withstanding blasts from beings far more powerful than himself. Couple his shield with the fact that he can't die, and he's basically unstoppable. Thanos has been shown to be able to actually decide whether or not a being can die or not (Deadpool Curse.)
Surfer? Meh people always compare him to Superman or say that he can beat him in a fight, but if he can't touch Thanos on his best day, he has no place taking part of this fight.
As for Thor, would a god blast not do anything? Also, which versions of Thanos, Thor and Surfer are we using here?
Tha marvel boyz whoop his azz!!!
I'm with you! Definitely going with the Marvel team.
Vague OP means we have to Assume in character so Darksied wins here. Bloodlusted (if SS actually used the full extent of his molecule manip.) team would win.
@thegrayghost: SS has very good TP and Thor has incredible resistance.
I agree though, morals on team loses here.
pc darkseid is not above thanos, heck pc supes gives darkseid a run for his money... and tp won't work on surfer,, he has resisted way higher telepaths than DS and thor depends on the writer and whether he is worthy and all that pis stuff so arguments could be made for both.... PC darkseid vs thanos is a good fight but giving thanos two studs is overkill...
@shaokahn: Watch your language.
Also, if Marvel is so boring, why does it control 40% of comic sales?
@baron_von_santa: ShaoKahn just goes around bumping old threads to say DC > Marvel in a rather inappropriate fashion. Don't mind him. He's pretty much trying to troll.
@mysticmedivh: Interestingly, I think he's trying to do the exact opposite.
He's a mentally something Marvel fanboy who is trying to get people to hate DC more by overdoing it and cursing Marvel. It normally works, but whenever I see him by pure chance, I am going to explain his intentions.
He should get a life.
@kingant27: Nah, nobody openly does that, I've seen his posts. A fanboy is different from a troll; ones intention is to annoy, the other, support his fav to ridiculous levels, and trying to discredit the other companies.
@baron_von_santa: It could be someone's other account, or some other Dc trolls account, because I doubt he is that smart; nor would others catch on too agree with him.
His support would only increase the Dc trolls side, not reversing Marvel in the slightest.
PC Darkseid destroys, you want me to state what ridiculous things PC Superman has done while Darkseid backhands him?
@kingant27: That's not a smart tactic (it only sounds smart when I'm explaining it) or I wouldn't have spotted it and told you guys, opening it up for suggestion. His sentence creates hate, which is directed at DC.
Nevertheless, let's just flag him and go, he's wasted enough of our time already.
@baron_von_santa: Marvel always sucked .
Thanos could use to have an Infinity Gem or two to make this more balanced.
why? silver surfer solos by himself.
@Push said:
"@king_james_5 said:"Seriously not! He won't take all of them. That's three heavy hitters, and Thanos is the one to watch. He'll use the other two to bring him down. "pre crisis would take these with little problem from the numbers game
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And none of them are near the power level of the PC Legion of Superheroes, or PC Maordru or PC Time Trapper - beings / groups PC Darkseid beat.
His feats go well beyond theirs.
you are using the great darkness saga as an example. darkseid is only very powerful in that story because he withdrew the powers of a lot of people. taking the story away, bronze age darkseid (in regular comics) is much weaker.
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