@logy5000 said:
@Skaddix Because that wouldn't work. The only mortal part of him is his back. If it was that easy kronos would have done it.
so then no proof because no one has tried it before thanks.
Depends on speed. Eragon would have to win via mind destruction and Percy would have to win by slowing time so that Eragon can't destroy his mind before he uses thunder bolts or something first.
Sigh. What don't you understand about invulnerability? It was stated that only the small of his back is rooted to mortality, you don't need proof; that flat out states that any form of death attacks anywhere else on the body won't work. You can't kill his blood cells unless they're on his back. Last time I heard, Eragon doesn't have death words for the back.
I can't believe we're even debating this. Eragon, as current Eragon in inheritance, has access to many Eludinarí, which is the heart of hearts of the dragons. So technically it's almost 200 or more minds vs Percy. Even if you limited it to just Percy vs Eragon, Eragon has a better sword and is almost a god in how powerful he is with magic. Eragon could utter the word "Letta" and Percy would no longer be able to move. Eragon could apply wards to himself so Percy can't cut him at all. If by some miracle, Percy hits him; he can just heal himself. Percy is no longer invulnerable either. Magic would hurt him just as much as a sword. Eragon can probably just stab him mentally after immobilizing him, and while Percy is in a huge amount of pain; he could just stab him. Percy has no chance against Eragon. Percy up to date in "The Mark of Athena" has absolutely no chance against Eragon, with magic or without.
If percys invulnerability is absolute ( besides the spot), he wins. But other than that eragon has more advantages. Eragon controls a greater amount of forces and has a wider range of magical abilities that percy does. he also has a dragon backing him. physically they are probably roughly the same. Please cotrrect me if Im wrong because I would like to know more about the characters.
how is this even a discussion? yeah i love Percy he's one of my favourites. but eragon can kill him with his choice of Twelve words, or he could use is telepathy to disable him. he could stop his heart or break all of his bones. Eragon is just way to powerful for percy.
@NightThrasher said:
I can't believe we're even debating this. Eragon, as current Eragon in inheritance, has access to many Eludinarí, which is the heart of hearts of the dragons. So technically it's almost 200 or more minds vs Percy. Even if you limited it to just Percy vs Eragon, Eragon has a better sword and is almost a god in how powerful he is with magic. Eragon could utter the word "Letta" and Percy would no longer be able to move. Eragon could apply wards to himself so Percy can't cut him at all. If by some miracle, Percy hits him; he can just heal himself. Percy is no longer invulnerable either. Magic would hurt him just as much as a sword. Eragon can probably just stab him mentally after immobilizing him, and while Percy is in a huge amount of pain; he could just stab him. Percy has no chance against Eragon. Percy up to date in "The Mark of Athena" has absolutely no chance against Eragon, with magic or without.
finally someone who actually has a knowledge of this. Percy has no chance at all far out
Percy is as good as a god of water..can eragon defeat nico?...blood has water in it,pj is xtremely resistant 2 heat..wat else?em,pj's strength is far greater dan dat of the elves(al of dem)he lifted d sky..combat skills?he fought ares and injured him..pj has defeated FAAAARRR MORE POWERFUL OPPONENTS THAN ERAGON..even witot d curse.he held of an entire army of undead..speed..elves are faster dan humans,so what?demigods are 2,and nt 2 talk of percy son of poseidon,dnt 4get pj has d hellhound ms o'leary 2
@thewatch
why does it matter if he's a demi-god? death words are death words dont know why its funny because it would still work.
Eragon takes this with ease. He is used to fighting stronger and faster enemies i.e: Durza , Vane(elf he trained with in the second book, Arya etc etc) He is also used to big scale battles and is used to cutting down many enemies like a Rambo basically. His magical abilities are of course very powerful and even if he can not affect Percy directly he can affect him indirectly with an array of different attacks. His telepathy is also a very big factor. He can break into Percy's mind and find out his weakness is the small of his back. His healing abilities are very potent and his wards are formidable. He also knows the Word so he can in theory summon anything he needs to defeat Percy or distract him. It is also very possible for him to go against a god considering Percy was able to defeat Ares. So in short due to his proficiency in magic and his far superior swordsmanship and speed he will be able to cut percy down to size
Last I heard he could not use Mist and was not invulnerable anymore. Eragon has a longer longevity and is certainly a better swordsman(he defeats faster and stronger opponents). Percy fought with a god who thought he was weak and one by hitting him with a wave to distract him. Eragon can also immobilize him or change his appearance to mirror Percy and trick him (percy is not that smart) . Also Eragon has fought Galbatorix who was basically a god. He could control every single aspect of his Empire which is evident when he takes over Murtagh. He only let Eragon live to give the people hope and squash it for those of you wondering why not just kill him. So with all of Eragon's training and enhanced abilities he will kill percy within seconds. Also demigods die... Hades daughter... just saying so stop acting like they are invincible they are not gods
@Veitha said:
Eragon is a beast. There are so many ways he could beat Percy... TP, death words, Saphira... he's just better than Percy
@Jnr6Lil: @Jnr6Lil said:
Well Eragon got Saphira, so Percy might not be able to hit Percy,
I go with Eragon. He beat Galbatorix.
And Eragon is human so celestrial bronze is useless.
Eragon also knows the true name of the Ancient Language. He could create spells that could nullify Percy's water abilities.
wow i havent read inheritance in a while but ur def right him knowing the true name of the anciet language just makes this unfair in Percy's case
From Camp Half-Blood Wiki:The most obvious weakness is the mortal spot the person chooses, as it remains the only place that can be injured. If this spot is even slightly injured, the person will die immediately.
The less obvious weakness is a secondary function - in addition to gaining invulnerability, someone with the Curse of Achilles also gains extreme physical powers - heightened strength and reflexes - and a body that almost automatically fights. However, this places an enormous amount of stress on the body, requiring a warrior under the curse to be careful not to over-exert himself, which happens more quickly than before. Chiron said that Achilles himself took about twenty naps a day—it sometimes seemed that when Achilles wasn't fighting, he was either sleeping or eating. This means someone under the curse will tire fighting quicker than someone who isn't; meaning that if a person with the Curse of Achilles is attacked by a large enough army they can be overwhelmed or become too exhausted to fight. It is also mentioned that a person under the curse will have certain emotions or behaviors enhanced, normally having to do with their fatal flaw. One major weakness is that while you are immune to injury you can still be killed by other means, as your body is still mortal:
Dehydration
Asphyxiation (e.g. drowning, choking)
Diseases (heart attack, strokes, cancer,etc)
Electrocution (during The Last Olympian, the river gods proclaim they can kill Percy Jackson with electric power cords)
Starvation
Exhaustion (Chiron mentioned that Achillies had to sleep "twenty times" a day, so if the Bearer of the Curse is constantly fighting for too long, than they can burn themselves out.)
Percy can be killed by a heart attack, (Eragon did this with Thrysta while starving, recovering from drugs and before the Agaetí Blödhren) stroke (death word) electrocution (Kveykva) etc. Magic aside, they would be equally matched in strength and speed, but Percy's durability far exceeds that of Eragon. However, the enchantments forged into Brisingr allow it to bypass all magic. Eragon takes this, but Percy puts up a helluva fight.
For the record, Eragon's mind tricks won't work. The reason is the thread has decided that his Death Words won't work, but Eragon siders say he would look in Percy's mind, incapacitate him with pain, and kill him after finding his weak spot. This will not work.
You see, pain does nothing to Percy (not literally). He, despite being ingulfed in molten magma, was able to summom enough water to cause a volcanic eruption. He was able to withstand the Achilles Curse/River Styx and obtain it despite the proccess just about erasing his memories for most of it and the pain being 50x worse than a bath of acid. I don't know sh!t about Eragon, but I highly doubt his incapacitation method feels worse than the River Styx.
I find this fight fair game. IMO, Percy wins (just for the heck of it). Besides, it's not like Percy has fought the Titan of Time, or, say, the Titan of Light...Oh wait.
Eragon murderstomps. He can literally think people to death. He'd brainrape Percy before he even blinks.
For the record, Eragon's mind tricks won't work. The reason is the thread has decided that his Death Words won't work, but Eragon siders say he would look in Percy's mind, incapacitate him with pain, and kill him after finding his weak spot. This will not work.
You see, pain does nothing to Percy (not literally). He, despite being ingulfed in molten magma, was able to summom enough water to cause a volcanic eruption. He was able to withstand the Achilles Curse/River Styx and obtain it despite the proccess just about erasing his memories for most of it and the pain being 50x worse than a bath of acid. I don't know sh!t about Eragon, but I highly doubt his incapacitation method feels worse than the River Styx.
I find this fight fair game. IMO, Percy wins (just for the heck of it). Besides, it's not like Percy has fought the Titan of Time, or, say, the Titan of Light...Oh wait.
No pain needed. Eragon just needs to say a single word and bye bye Percy. It doesn't even have to be a death word, he can simply say "Jierda" (which means "break", a very simple word and requires next to zero energy from a spellcaster in Eragon's level) and it simply snaps the bone in Percy's small of the back like a rotten twig. Also, Saphira can incinerate Percy before he even does anything. Her dragonfire would simply engulf him, small of the back and everything.
Eragon curbstomps death words nuff said Percy has no TP immunity and Eragon would simply steal his memories as to where the Achilles spot is
@thewatch: of course nico is trash compared to percy and pecy is less than trash to Eragons butt
Hey I know this is an old thread but I love it anyways. Anyways Eragon's mind rape would work any practically any other demigod. You see as the son of Poseidon Percy is highly resistant to hostile mental control. Poseidon describe this as "the sea doesn't like to be contained". This was shown in the demigod files, the lightening thief (lotus casino), when Kronos tried to take over his mind (with tp), when Phorcys tried to trap him, when Ares tried to make him angry magically, when Hades used emotion controlling abilities, or when the Coctys tried to assimilate him. These show many degrees of resistance to mental control like TP. So while Eragon could try to take Percy's mind it would be by no means easy.
Also the presence of Saphira is both a strength and a weakness for Eragon. If Saphira was killed Eragon would be in great emotional and mental anguish; incapacitating him. Percy would have a pretty good chance at killing Saphira because of his Dragon killing classes. Also he's killed worse. In fact he would probably attack her first because he would take her as a monster.
Also even without the curse demigods have a high degree of resistance to magic as stated in TLO. This means that Eragon would expand much more energy than he would expect incapacitating, winding, or even killing him.
Also I am inclined to believe that demigods and elves are equals physically. Or at least speed wise. Anyways I think that the curse puts him on Eragon's level physically if not his demigod blood.
I'm not saying that Percy stomps I'm saying he stands a pretty good chance.
@the_new_sentry: Would Percy have any defense to Eragon just simply saying one of the 12 death words? Or telling Percy's heart to stop?
Those aren't meant to weaken your argument, I'm sincerely curious because I've never read Percy Jackson.
Based on what i've been told, Eragon could, and would, just cut some blood vessels and be done with it. Percy has more raw power, at least in the films, so he definitely could win, if he manages to bombard Eragon with tidal waves before his throat gets magically cut open. Close combat skills and tactics are debatable, from what i know, but as it is i'm thinking Eragon win this.
Ugh magic isn't all that easy especially in the Inheritance Cycle people. If you expend too much energy you CAN and WILL DIE. It is made even more dangerous with the countless wards magicians use. (Since Percy is a demigod this is especially tricky.) This is why magicians in Eragon's world always attack someone's mind first. Complete domination is needed.And as we all know Percy is one stubborn son of a ****. (Read resistant to TP) So Percy could still move and react while fighting Eragon off. This is due to his demigod ADHD blood. He's comfortable with chaos. Eventually I'd say after an hour Eragon would have Percy's mind. It is in this time frame that the battle would be decided. THIS IS IMPORTANT! It is not a stomp you here me Alduin!
NOTE: I'm pretty sure that Eragon would take Percy as a spell caster once he saw the glowing sword and water powers. Also Riptide would in fact effect Eragon and Saphira. People think that celestial bronze only affects monsters and gods. Their wrong it just doesn't affect mortals: I'm pretty sure that people that can use magic and live forever aren't mortal.
@tparks: @pikachumonster: @silverrings: @jacthripper: @cjdavis103: sorry forgot to do this earlier. And thank you to those who take this seriously and or are polite.
@the_new_sentry: eragon in a few seconds in percy's head will know that percy is not a conventional mage ( no wards) as he can detect "magic" in a person and if he is not sure he can make the death spells a process so he could cancle if needed
also spaheri can fly high in the sky and give eragon plenty of time to kill Percy
@cjdavis103: first of all please spell check. Second Eragon probably wouldn't guess he wasn't a Mage. He himself didn't know about wards until the second book. Also those spells that detect wards take time and are not battle ready. Also remember Demigods have magical resistance the spells that Eragon casts might even interpret this as wards. (If he has time to cast them.) In fact a lot of Eragon's spells take time and focus. He usually puts safeguards on the death words just in case. This makes them wordier.
Saphira doesn't know that Percy has dragon slaying training and would in fact try to protect her rider.
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