Ozymandias ( movie ) vs Captain America ( movie )

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#1  Edited By spartan92
 
 
 
 
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Avengers 2012 Cap
Avengers 2012 Cap
 
 
h2h only  
 
no morals  
 
who wins ?
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#2  Edited By spartan92

  
  
 
 
  
  
  
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#3  Edited By King Quisling

Stalemate.

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#4  Edited By difficlus

Captain america fight looks more epic!

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#5  Edited By iamwarmachine

why was the ozymandis vid taken down
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#6  Edited By spartan92
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virtually all the watchmen vids are " embedding disabled " but the vid i found was relatively new so i thought it wouldnt be disabled.
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#8  Edited By MKF30

Ozy imo 
 
  

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#9  Edited By castleking

I didnt see Cap do much really but he does have the shield and is pretty quick himself. Just like in the comics cap takes it due to stats alone.

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#10  Edited By progenitorigin

Captain America should be able to take this.  He's in better shape than the 2 has-beens that Veidt knocked around, and his shield would prove effective in the fight as well.  With no morals? Captain America uses the shield to behead Ozy.
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#11  Edited By Dracade102

Cap has better strength feats and has a possible healing factor, but in raw H2H standards Veidt should win... However a moral-less movie Cap would probably pose as an enormous threat, so I guess stalemate...

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#12  Edited By whydoievenbother

cap would decimate ozy

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#13  Edited By spartan92
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why is that ?
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Cap 4tW

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Not having seen the movie, does Cap have any moments that trump the bullet catching Ozy does?
Judging from the trailers and short clips I've actually have seen, Cap seems slightly, but not enough to make a real difference, stronger and he does have the shield and the skills to use it.
Ozy seems to be a bit faster and better H2H combatant, however. He was pretty much toying with Rorschach and Nite Owl and could have killed them any time he wanted.
 
Difficult, but I'd give Ozymandiaz a slight edge, maybe 6/10, but it could go either way depending on day-to-day form.

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#16  Edited By spartan92
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he didnt really show any bullet timing feats but was able to dodge the punches of hydra goons effortlessly.
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#17  Edited By IronMan1234

Um, yeah. Just hand to hand, Ozy wins this. 

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#18  Edited By Erik

I take "H2H only" as them both being on equal grounds physically. In other words, no powers or enhancements. If this is the case, Ozy stomps. He was shown as a really impressive fighter in the movie.

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@spartan92: I see. Then I'd place Ozy as being quite a bit quicker than Cap, and more skilled. Hydra goons are pushovers.
Ozymandias would probably win 8-9/10, 'cause you never know. Cap might get in a lucky shot or maybe he had a better breakfast. LOL
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#20  Edited By spartan92
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 lol looks likes we will have to wait till the avengers movie to see what he can do against a proper challange.
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#21  Edited By Deranged Midget

I'd say they are physically equal and while Ozy has the edge in speed, Cap's skill with the shield would even it out.

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#22  Edited By MKF30
@IronMan1234 said:
Um, yeah. Just hand to hand, Ozy wins this. 
I can agree with that, Captain is more super powered/enhanced but H2H alone I do think Ozy is more impressive...
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#23  Edited By IronMan1234
@Deranged Midget said:

I'd say they are physically equal and while Ozy has the edge in speed, Cap's skill with the shield would even it out.

Well yeah with the shield, but the OP posted this as being H2H only. Which is why Ozy would beat cap. His speed and skill factors come into play rather nicely in this situation for him.  
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#24  Edited By progenitorigin

Question: When in the Watchmen movie did Veidt ever face anyone that was at peak-human condition? First off, he already lost to Comedian once when they were both in his prime, and then he defeated Comedian in his apartment, taken off guard and from the looks of it, half-drunk.  Ozy also fought Rorschach, a decent enough street-fighter, but a constant jobber on the Vine, and Niteowl II, who was retired before he re-donned the outfit and fought.  Captain America has a serum that allows him to not only toss around people like rag dolls, but to keep going without losing stamina, as Erskine's serum eliminates the fatigue in the body, as Captain America was never once winded or tired for his efforts in the movie. 
 
Veidt is a good fighter, but against someone young with the stamina of Captain America, with his skill & strength? I don't see Ozy winning this.
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#27  Edited By Erik

Captain America soundly beats Ozy.

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#28  Edited By Jorgevy

cap's stats kill this. He is borderline super human

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#29  Edited By buttersdaman000

9 months ago I wouldve said Ozy but now im thinking Cap might take it.

Can anybody remind me of his Avenger feats??

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#30  Edited By Wyldsong

@Erik said:

Captain America soundly beats Ozy.

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#31  Edited By jeanroygrant

@IronMan1234 said:

Um, yeah. Just hand to hand, Ozy wins this.
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Ozymandias wins

has better hand-to-hand,strategy and speed feats than Cap

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#33  Edited By Dhor

movie cap was plain stupid. he had about 2 weeks of training and magically became a great fighter. i get the fact that he`s peak human but he`s not a skilled fighter. on the other hand Adrian is also peak human but he`s also the most skilled fighter in the world. so the fight goes to Ozy

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#34  Edited By Xanax

Captain America is more skilled in combat h2h so i'll go with him.

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#35  Edited By texasdeathmatch

Ozy's a better trained fighter for sure, but he's not taking down the Super Soldier.

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#36  Edited By nefarious

Captain America.

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#37  Edited By Enemybird

I am going with Ozzy here just barely.

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people saying stale mate or cap loses don't know much in the avengers cap threw down with loki while all ozy did was beat on two untrained vigilantes and a way past his prime comedian, now the bullet catching feat was okay but not worth mentioning i mean cap was tanking hydra feats plus he managed to tank a strike from thor with his shield and he never flinched, anyone wants to disagree then you can :)

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captain america wins, he has better speed, durability, strength and skill the only impressive thing that ozy did was catch a bullet.

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Movie Watchmen characters were almost closer to Matrix agents than real life peak human... punching brick without flinching, jumping ten feet straight up, flinging grown men around like ragdolls etc...

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H2H only I presume no shield. still Cap takes this, specially after the Avengers movie

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#42  Edited By hulkbuster94

cap wins without much effort anyone want to question me so be it i will give you so many reasons why....

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Strength: comparable

Durability: probably Cap

Speed: Ozy

Skill: Ozy

Intelligence: Ozy

Winner: Ozy in a good fight

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#44  Edited By jamesisaacs

Ozy lays the smackdown with ease..he is the Batman of the Watchmen comic and as we all know Batman owns Capt A. So Ozy obviously stomps.

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#45  Edited By dondave

@willpayton: I wouldn't say they have comparable strength, Cap was hitting Nazi's so hard they flew backwards in the air

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How does his shield keep returning?

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Cap is significantly stronger and if we include what he did in the Avengers, then he's also be quicker and more agile.

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#48  Edited By willpayton

@dondave said:

@willpayton: I wouldn't say they have comparable strength, Cap was hitting Nazi's so hard they flew backwards in the air

Ozy was doing the same things, throwing people like Rorschach and Night Owl into the air about the same distance that Cap threw that guy, but Ozy was doing it much more casually. I'd say they're about comparable in strength, with perhaps a small edge going to Ozy.

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cap stomps ozy fighting rorschach and niteowl wasn't impressive cap would have done the same plus he had prep and such on them cap fought soldiers and stuff without any trouble throwing punches with loki in the avengers movie he wins ozys speed is on caps level strength goes to cap intelligence ozy i say cap wins i have so many reasons for this answer

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