Onslaught vs Jean Grey (with phoenix)
onslaught offered to give jean the pheonix force if she would serve him and if he's able to give that power to her then i see no reason why he couldn't beat her with it
I think White Crown Phoenix could take him.The regular Phoenix probably couldn't beat him but it wouldn't be easy for him to win.
Onslaught only because Onslaught lacks any moral and apathy. He wouldn't think twice killing Jean or stripping her the Phoenix Force while they fight before he crush her.
But this is no easy fight.
"Onslaught beats the stuffing out of jean grey and kills her off forever. Then Shuma Gorath and he go on a mindless killing rampage, and onslaught gets eaten by shuma gorath later.
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1) If Onslaught wanted to; He could erase Shuma Gorath from existance. But the whole battle would be determined on who would make the 1st move.
2) I would have to go with Onslaught anyway because he has the power to absorb and use others powers and so on.. So let's say if Onslaught got to Phoenix 1st, no matter which version of her/it.... And then Galactus... Thor... Cyttorak.... etc.... Shuma would probably stand no chance at all.
3) And as for Phoenix.... If she can't tell if something is an illusion from Onslaught, then we already know, that she is nowhere anywhere near his power.
This would be a very interesting fight. Not exactly sure who would win but I am leaning toward a phoenix force imbued Jean for the win.
"@vegeta said:"isnt it said there is nothing the pheonix can do she can do anything her mind wants "Uatu explained her power as such, "she only had to think and that thought would become reality" "
@cracks said:
" @Phoenix of the Black Throne: Onslaught with Professor X, Magneto, X-Man and Franklin Richards should beat any Phoenix, except for White Phoenix. May I ask why you think not? "
thats why
@iceprincess.. are you sure that onslaught can just " stripping her the Phoenix Force" the reason why i say that is because
.. remember that issue when Galactus tried separating the Phoenix Force from then host Rachel Summers and release it back to the universe? as he was doing it, stars started going dim and were dying.. later, omniversal guardian Roma, Uatu the Watcher and even Death itself appeared before Galactus and told him that he cannot separate the host from the Phoenix forcefully, for if he does, all life will cease to exist and no spark of life will ever come about.. that is probably why the Phoenix is described to be immortal, indestructible and mutable for it symbolizes everything that pertains to life itself
with that being said i think that onslaught is wayy too intelligent and cares about his own life too much (the fact that he would be irritating the very source of his existence) to piss the force off like that..
i agree that he would win THIS battle.. jean is wayy too human and she holds back most of her own power, way too much compassion, love, and moral reasoningg.. this is the phoenix's only weakness if you think about it loll
onslaught would win... the only phoenix that could beat him is one that is multiversal like the white crown.
onslaught would win... the only phoenix that could beat him is one that is multiversal like the white crown.Actually, the only way Onslaught would win is if Phoenix fights him face to face. It is the White Hot Room that is >>> Onslaught. So if Phoenix is inside the HWR, she can defeat Onslaught from there.
if onslaught gains access to the m'kronn crystal, he would defeat phoenix, even if she is inside the white hot room.
@Lance Bastro said:exactly...if onslaught gains access to the m'kronn crystal, he would defeat phoenix, even if she is inside the white hot room.Yeah, and if your mom had the HOTU, she would win. smh.....
Onslaught for reasons stated..plus why would he offer jean Phoenix force if she could crawfish and kill him once she has it???
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