One Punch Man vs Palpetine

Restrictions : Telepathy, Mind rape, BFR

start 20 meters away

Palpatine handily

palps

Palpatine gets one-punched.

One-Punch Man one-shots.

Palpatine*

This is a bit of an odd match up.

For the most parts anyways OPM tends to be a controversial VS topic due to his no limits fallacy.

Even by feats however, he should take this.

Honestly, Saitama one-shots.

Saitama could probably deal with possession even if it was enabled, due to his incredible willpower. Didn't an Imperial Knight resist Palp's possession?

Poor Palpatine, gona need a new face after this.

(He already needed one)

Even Though Palpatine makes tatsumaki look pathetic in TK. Its not stopping saitama...

@wewlad80: In straight up TK Palpatine is weaker than Tatsumaki. Like, much weaker.

Read the manga and Webcomic and No. Not even Close.

EU Palpatine was literally Breaking the laws of physics and summoning force storms.

@wewlad80: I have read the manga and seen a lot of the webcomic feats.

Force Storms aren't TK. They're a different ability altogether.

Saitama

"The creation of a Force storm required the user to concentrate an almost palpable degree of anger and hatred into a tangible manifestation of Dark Side power"

They are done Directly through Blending incredible amounts of TP with TK... Your argument is invalid.

Palpatine, could raise entire planets/large fleets. Sidious ain't lacking in power against OPM.

Eh Palpatine is Ridiculous but Saitama Literally can Produce Mountain Busting AOE just by Air Punching....Just saying..

Saitama handily. As impressive as Sheev is, he's out of his depth.

@wewlad80: The average sith lord can output Island level energies, It's not impressive. I can cite dozens of feats, putting Jedi/Sith anywhere from town level to Large moon level.

Palpatine just force Barriers.

Ehh. Not touching this due to NLF.

Sids probably can't put down Saitama though. Even spamming force storms

@wewlad80: Nothing in the quote states it's blending, or using, TK and TP. I mean, by the same argument Palpatine has continental strength and durability since those abilities also draw on dark side energy. Or that his Lightning can replicate the feats of his Storms. Storms are a different ability to everything in his arsenal, we have to look at explicit TK, TP, strength, speed, etc. feats to see how good he is in those areas.

Could you, please?

Saitama smurfs gag force to strunk.

Nice Head canon

Saitama is not a gag character.

@alphaq:

Darth Nihilus draining Kataar was a Multi continental feat.

Vitiate did the Ritual of Nathema,which is a Multiply Moon level feat as he gained the energy from it, then Vitiate proceeds to do something similar to Ziost by himself, and DE Palps is > this guy.

Plageuis presence on Naboo caused a planet wide winter, over a short amount of time staying there. Which is continental easily.

Kanan and Ezra, complete scrubs, moved a asteroid, which was calculated to be Kilotons. And that's disney.

Darth Jadus protecting apart of ship with it was shot down was in the Megatons.

A group of Jedi banded to together, to Destroy Comet Kinro, which would of destroyed several planets(core worlds) This is multi- planet level, though done by multiply Jedi.

There is more but im too lazy, to write anymore.

Saitama becomes the senate and arrests Palpatine.

Notice the term Gag gorce, not toonforce.

and saitama is clearly a super serious character all of the time... yep...

Sids isn't winning this, kek.

@alphaq: Sidious is easily burying a 19-kilometer ship whilst simultaneously fogging the minds of millions of people, using Battle Meditation to influence battles from across the galaxy, and this is almost a decade or so before a considerable power-growth.

He's better than Tatsumaki.

Didn't an Imperial Knight resist Palp's possession?

No.

@wollfmyth209: Don't bs. It was a 1km ship and most people wouldn't have seen it or paid any attention anyway. And, yes, Palpatine was resisted by one of his own Imperial Guards whom he tried to possess after he was killed.

The Lusankya was actually a 19 KM ship. However some fans have exaggerated the meaning of the word "buried". There are quote's stating he employed engineers to dig it's grave, while another states that he's used his powers to bury the ship. I believe, along with quite a few others, that this quote is referring to his mass mind wipe, to rid the existence of a burning in atmosphere ship from the memory of millions or perhaps more.

Not that it matters, since the OP restricted TP.

So Saitama one punches.

@reikai: The Lusankya was 19 kilometers long. And a lot of the population would've obviously noticed a massive ship being buried, so he had to mind-wipe them.

I don't recall any Imperial Guard resisting Sidious, and even if he did that's just an insanely good feat for him given Sidious' insane willpower feats.

To address the derpyness of SW fans and they're analysis of feats, that are several orders of magnitude less impressive than what's being implied. Here we go.

@slayedigneel

The average sith lord can output Island level energies

Define "average".

Darth Nihilus draining Kataar was a Multi continental feat.

Starting with Nihilus sets the bar pretty high for average don't you think. When you consider how many hundreds of thousands of Sith lords existed, using someone who's powers are demonstrably in the top 5 of all Sith lords is a bit bunk. The average sith lord would be much closer to someone like Darth Bandon, or perhaps even below that. We're talking about individuals that shouldn't even have respect threads.

Vitiate did the Ritual of Nathema,which is a Multiply Moon level feat as he gained the energy from it, then Vitiate proceeds to do something similar to Ziost by himself, and DE Palps is > this guy.

Again "average". The first is a convoluted ritual that took weeks(?) of preparation.

Plageuis presence on Naboo caused a planet wide winter, over a short amount of time staying there. Which is continental easily.

None of this is attributed to Plagueis' personal power and is merely hamfisted symbolism and coincidental. This is an example of SW fans grasping for the most remote straws they can to add to their repitore of dispensed points.

Kanan and Ezra, complete scrubs, moved a asteroid, which was calculated to be Kilotons. And that's disney.

Not even close to "island level outputs" of power.

Not even close to island level.

Darth Jadus protecting apart of ship with it was shot down was in the Megatons.

Again, the ship is just an SD (roughly 1km) and is not even close to island level. Unless we're talking about micro islands < 2 miles. There are not many of those in the world. And even 2 miles (3km) is considered tiny for an island. More importantly, Darth Jadus is considered one of the best soldiers of his time, and probably at least in the top 30/40 sith lords. He's probably stronger than Darth Bane. Not exactly average.

A group of Jedi banded to together, to Destroy Comet Kinro, which would of destroyed several planets(core worlds) This is multi- planet level, though done by multiply Jedi.

Context please?

There is more but im too lazy, to write anymore.

And it would be best if you stopped here.

Saitama blitzes and one shots

You're underselling Palpatine's feat.

He didn't erase the memories of people who saw the ships burial. He erased the memories of people who saw the ship literally crashing down into the atmosphere at re-entry speeds.

Imagine a firey 19 KM asteroid coming down towards earth. An entire section of the globe would be seeing it in person, presuming they weren't all collectively masturbating in their bedrooms. Then consider modern communication and recording devices, as well live broadcasting. Consider how much more advanced those systems would be in Galaxy far far away, and you have a rather sizeable population of people finding out about an estranged behemoth ship set ablaze in the Sky. Oh yes and there are one trillion people living in Coruscant.

@bane_train: True. The number can't be less than a few millions, at least. And at best, it'd be several billions. Honestly it's one of the best TP feats in the mythos, right up there with scanning all the collective minds in a solar system done by Luke.

@bane_train:

Define "average".

The amount of energy it took 8000 sith lords to perform the Ritual of Nathema, each.

Starting with Nihilus sets the bar pretty high for average don't you think. When you consider how many hundreds of thousands of Sith lords existed, using someone who's powers are demonstrably in the top 5 of all Sith lords is a bit bunk. The average sith lord would be much closer to someone like Darth Bandon, or perhaps even below that. We're talking about individuals that shouldn't even have respect threads.

I'm sorry if it seemed like I applied Nihilus to be average, in which he is not. I was referring to Level of energy Sith lords/Jedi have produce that are below Palps.

Again "average". The first is a convoluted ritual that took weeks(?) of preparation.

It took ten days, and the energy from each of the Sith lords, was around 42 gigatons a second, which vitiate was channeling.

None of this is attributed to Plagueis' personal power and is merely hamfisted symbolism and coincidental. This is an example of SW fans grasping for the most remote straws they can to add to their repitore of dispensed points.

A coincidence I think not, as Vitate screwed with Dromund kass's weather. Not mention A Sith weaker than Dooku, have covered entire planets, with their DS energy, with his mere presence.

Not even close to island level.

correct.

Again, the ship is just an SD (roughly 1km) and is not even close to island level. Unless we're talking about micro islands < 2 miles. There are not many of those in the world. And even 2 miles (3km) is considered tiny for an island. More importantly, Darth Jadus is considered one of the best soldiers of his time, and probably at least in the top 30/40 sith lords. He's probably stronger than Darth Bane. Not exactly average.

Correct, I wasn't trying to claim that some of these events were Island level. I do Know what Kilotons/Megatons/gigatons are and the power output they release. Nor was it my intention to say average. We are talking about Sidious here.

Context please?

Chapter Fifteen

In the deep well of Outer Rim space, a Carrack-class light cruiser-the Oculus-sits quiet and still amid a field of debris. The debris: the pulverized leftovers from the comet Kinro, a celestial object once predicted to carve a path clean through the Core Worlds many eons ago, sure to destroy one or several planets and the people on them. The history books suggest that it was the Jedi who banded together, and several gave their lives (some, just their minds) willing the comet to break apart before it ever even punched a hole through the Mid Rim. - Aftermath Novel.

And it would be best if you stopped here.

Na you just misinterpreted, my intentions.

Is there explicit sources stating he used TK, or showing him using TK and in what manner? And could you please provide them if so? One user mentioned that he used engineers to bury the ship, so I'm guessing the feat occurred off-screen or not at all.

Whether or not the feat is better than Tatsumaki's depends on how it was done. Tatsumaki has caught a city-busting bombardment and did damage the length of a 15 by 9km long ship by hurling the shells back at it, the same ship's hull tanked having Saitama return from the Moon, knocking it back to Earth but not actually breaking the hull. She ripped a huge underground facility into the air, when it was buried 1.5 kilometers underground. She ripped a meteor from space, somehow made enough force to bring it to Earth in a moment and smashed a giant Monster. Tats would be able to bury a 17km ship, probably not all at once, but she wouldn't take too long really. Palps could've moved smaller amounts over a longer period than Tats's feats.

@slayedigneel: Interesting.

@alphaq: Is there explicit sources stating he used TK, or showing him using TK and in what manner? And could you please provide them if so? One user mentioned that he used engineers to bury the ship, so I'm guessing the feat occurred off-screen or not at all.

It says he buried it with a demonstration of his Dark Side powers, which could only be telekinesis since there's no other way to bury it:

Years before, one of a number of Super Star Destroyers commissioned by the Emperor had disappeared. In fact, as a demonstration of Palpatine’s dark side powers, he had buried the Lusankya at the edge of Imperial City.The Official Star Wars Fact File #9

We also know he did it easily, since he's simultaneously mind-controlling billions, keeping up a mental link with Vader and using Battle Meditation across the galaxy. Keep in mind he didn't just bury the Super Star Destroyer Lusankya, but it's disguise as a "massive planetary shield generator":

The Lusankya was covered in a superframe of girders and electronics, then lowered onto Coruscant disguised as a massive planetary shield generator and its repulsorlift cradle. The fact that a Super Star Destroyer was at the heart of the “generator” was kept secret, allowing the Lusankya to serve as a secret prison facility.

Starships of the Galaxy (Saga Edition)

The Lusankya was just the heart of said shield generator, so Sidious would've been casually manipulating something much larger than a 19 kilometer long ship.

Whether or not the feat is better than Tatsumaki's depends on how it was done. Tatsumaki has caught a city-busting bombardment and did damage the length of a 15 by 9km long ship by hurling the shells back at it, the same ship's hull tanked having Saitama return from the Moon, knocking it back to Earth but not actually breaking the hull. She ripped a huge underground facility into the air, when it was buried 1.5 kilometers underground. She ripped a meteor from space, somehow made enough force to bring it to Earth in a moment and smashed a giant Monster. Tats would be able to bury a 17km ship, probably not all at once, but she wouldn't take too long really. Palps could've moved smaller amounts over a longer period than Tats's feats.

And that's all well and good, but just Sidious' Lusankya feat is better than all of that. What's even better is Sidious, just by getting angry, was capable of destroying the Imperial Palace(just the Palace's garage has more than enough space for the Lusankya). This is all pre-Dark Empire Sidious.

@wollfmyth209:

I'm not rooting for Tats in this argument or anything, but to be fair to her, she did accomplish that rather casually.

But his feats are better. Though it doesn't blow her out of the water or anything.

@emperor339: Sidious would've performed his feats casually, as well, and they are on a larger, more titanic scale.

He's not ragdolling her, but he strikes me as superior.

@wollfmyth209:

I know he would. I'm just mentioning that she performed hers casually too.

IMO he is her outright superior, but certainly not ragdoll range.

Again, people saying he was mind-controlling people. If he was actually doing that, he'd have no need to take control of an empire and could just casually make everyone do what he wanted without having to resort to politics or armies and there'd be no Resistance movement either. Using Battle-Med to affect the minds of a large number of people isn't the same as completely controlling them.

All he did was make them not notice the fact he hid the ship on Courscant. That's it. He didn't wipe their memories, because there was no one to remember it, because he simply tricked them into not noticing it. It's no different than what Khan did in "The Shadow", only on a larger scale. And claiming he did so easily when various sources point to Palpatine having ritual sites on Coruscant with Dark Acolytes whom he'd been previously using to disrupt the foresight of the Jedi and put them more on edge. Something that required years to take full effect.

Either way, none of that matters to Saitama. Sidious could throw everything he has at Saitama and it wouldn't make a difference. You wanna say Sid is more powerful than Tatsumaki? That's fine. It still doesn't change the fact neither she, Monster Garou nor Boros could even adversely affect Saitama at all with their abilities.