@seido said:
The imp.
...is overrated
Mr. Mxyzptlk vs Classic Beyonder
super_sayian_beyonder: its not abc logic, it's two entirely diff cases. Doom by origin is still a human. Mxy never had his power TAKEN OR DRAINED by a mere human...
Lol yeah too much beyonder wank, already posted scans showing him grabbing doom admitting he lost to him and bested him.
Mxy would look at doom and laugh. WF mxy wouldn't waste two seconds on him.
@super_sayian_beyonder said:
To many people underminding Q, Galactus was defeated by Doom. (A human)
Here in the Q/Galactus topic you also contradict what you're saying here...you clearly admit that Galactus was defeated by Doom, yet ignore the fact that Beyonder was defeated by Doom as well? lol your words "Galactus was defeated by Doom. (A human) and you're right, that's not any different here. You can't just use this argument in one topic then contradict it in another. Even CA admits Doom conquered the Beyonder....not to mention Beyonder himself in another scan admitting "Doom bested him" what more evidence do you want?
@marvelous_3212 said:
So energy of Beyounder and Molecule Man fight reached to DC and exploded Krypton, lol.
Comics don't keep consistency. One author sticks to the guide lines written by the last. Then a new one stops by and says screw all that. If you take the Beyonder and the way things work in Marvel, then put that in DC as per this battle, the Marvel structure doesn't follow the DC structure. So no, it isnt by my own logic that the 10th dimensional being was bested by Myx, you can't apply that to the Beyonder and how he works compared to the Marvel Multiverse of 3d space. Tired of your nonsense, Mystic, I've no choice but to tear your response apart piece by piece. You bestow your opinion without any shred of evidence as legit fact too often.
"Drop in the sea compared to me." Alright, so finite then and just bigger. More like a bigger container for the Marvel Multiverse.
A quick google search that took 5 seconds lead me here to this thread: http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/the-glory-doctor-who-vs-pre-retcon-beyonder-marvel-1738712/
Where you said this and were immediately shut down by users posting right after who disagreed with you and who ignored you completely because of the absurditity you were spouting about Beyonder also being infinitely dimensional compared to the Glory. Now you bring that same nonsense here 9 months later, also without any evidence.
"For in his own realm, he was all things. Just three dimensions, instead of infinite? such things are unknown to him". So he wasn't infinite beyond his own dimension. Not infinite. In his space, he was TOAA. Outside of his space, he wasn't. So stop already, Mystic. Just like how Lucifer made his own Creation and was God of it. How the Presence had his own Creation and was God of it and how Ellaine Belloc had her own as well and she was God of it. Beyonder's empty Beyond was his and his alone. When he came out, he was far lesser. So stop inverting what the scans actually say. Thanks.
Want some more inconsistencies? Cool, lets keep going then.
Hmm. Only several million times as powerful as the Multiverse? Omnipotent? He didn't know the multiverse existed, he struggled against Owen, had no idea was emotions were or how important the other cosmics were.
Want another contradiction from, okay have another then.
But wait beyonder, you just said twice that your power is like an ocean compared to a drop in the sea AND that you are only millions of times as powerful as the sum of the multiverse. Now you exaggerate and say Owen slagged billions of dimensions? So you are lying or exaggerating then? Cool, you can't be trusted then. OH WAIT, you claimed omnipotence and then struggled against Owen? So there are three huge inconsistencies right there without a single scan or shred of evidence showing Beyonder being infinite.
Show me a scan of Beyonder destroying every dimension and the entire Infinite DC structure of alternate realities and dimensions. Here is Myx doing it.
In DC, the 5th Dimension in DC encapsulates the entire 3rd and 4th dimensions in DC comics and Myx can wipe out his own entire 5th dimension as well. In Marvel, the structure isn't the same. Beyonder thought the multiverse and normal 3d spaces were all there was and he said his power was millions of times the sum of the multiverse. He contradicts that by saying Owen could slag billions of dimensions and proves he isn't Omnipotent with his ineptitude and struggle against Owen, who is not Omnipotent.
Here, Beyonder proves he doesn't know what a Dimension is. He thinks the normal 3d spaces and each alternate unverse is another dimension. He doesn't mean the 3rd dimension vs the 4th and 5th and to the 10th. He means this reality is universe 616, that other "dimension" over there is universe 691, ect. He said all the other dimensions were part of the multiverse. BEYONDER THINKS THE NORMAL 3D SPACES ARE INFINITE IN NUMBER BUT SAYS HE IS STILL MILLIONS OF TIMES AS POWERFUL. OKAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY THENNNNNNN
This Omnipotent, omniscient being who doesn't know really anything at all and gets everything wrong...isn't at all Omnipotent or omniscient and the author contradicts himself about 6 times in the span of one comic and also gets the terminology of Dimensionality and alternate universes confused and thinks they are the same. So not only is Beyonder a MORON, but also a liar and untrustworthy since he contradicted himself 6 times in just 3 panels of scans.
I've had it with this Beyonder nonsense. Myx wipes him from existence, WF form not needed. There is so much inconsistency in Marvel regarding how many universes there are, and I showed you that in another thread just recently that you ignored when you pulled scans of a few characters saying there were infinite universes and alternates, then other scans of others saying differently. That doesn't exist in DC prior to infinite crisis, they had infinite universes.
Myx had total control over legit infinite. Beyonder never did.
Case closed.
@mysticmedivh said:
@scathanapprover said:
Scathans logic: The Beyond is the realm as the 3.5th Dimesion, the bottle that contains the normal 3rd dimension multiverse. I'd not even consider it a 4th dimension, more like a sidestep, or the bigger multiverse that contains the normal one. The Beyonder said the entire Multiverse is like a drop in the sea compared to the Beyond. To me, that implies limits on the Beyond Realm, a place of physics with things that are calcuable. The 5th Dimension is a tier higher in my view. The Beyonders power is based on normal physics, molecular manipulation, time manipulation and space manipulations. All of which do not apply to Myx in the slightest.
Myx looks at Beyonder and likely gets impressed that a 3d being can do that, then pulls a giant hammer out of his pocket and slams it on Beyonders face for a TKO.
By your own logic, Mr. Mxzyptlk, a 5th dimensional being, should have never been able to have defeated Ultimator, a 10th dimensional being. Or Doctor Strange shouldn't have been able to defeat a 6th dimensional being. Evidently, in comics, the dimensional logic you suggest does not apply.
And the Beyonder was said to be infinite dimensional, by the way. So by your own logic, the Beyonder could erase Mxy with a thought.
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